NJ NJ - Danielle Lopez, 37, went camping in Wharton State Forest, car found in Penn State Forest, 13 Apr 2024

[Angelcat13]

Please don't go there ALONE....

I won’t.

 

[Knox]

Although a lot of the older WaWa's have been replaced with larger "gas station" WaWa's, the WaWa on Route 72 (by the Route 70 / 72 circle) is one of the older, small WaWa's with only one entrance/exit into the store so the surveillance image posted by the NJ State Police could only be from this one door. There is parking in front, on the right side and left front. To the right and behind the WaWa is a small open area, then lots and lots of woods. To the left is Woodland Discount Liquors and Billy Boy's Tavern. Going south on Route 72 there is also a gas station and a pizza place, then not much except for a few small businesses (mostly run out of homes) until you get to the New Lisbon Developmental Center (1.1 miles from the WaWa).

(From the State website: New Lisbon Developmental Center, founded in 1914, is located in New Lisbon, Burlington County on a 1,896-acre tract of land on the edge of the New Jersey Pinelands. It became a state training institution in 1916 and has provided a comprehensive system of care for women and men with intellectual and developmental disabilities since 1977.)

I was out this way today and stopped in to get some lunch and, with it being a holiday weekend with good weather today there was a lot of activity with bikes (bicycles & motorcycles), canoes, kayaks, etc. It made me hopeful that with all of the people out there enjoying this beautiful area this weekend that someone might come across something. I just hope that a lot of people know about Danielle and will keep there eyes open just in case they notice something that could be important.

I'm not sure where on Lost Lane her car was found, but Lost Lane is a fairly long (dirt) road. I'll try to post some pictures later this evening, but I am headed out to the marina for a bit.

Is there a campground near where her car was found?

 

[Angelcat13]

Is there a campground near where her car was found?

I don’t know because I don’t know exactly where her car was found. But lots of people camp there outside of actual campgrounds. Reasons could be to avoid campground fees and/or wanting privacy (for a variety of reasons - from innocent to playful to romantic to nefarious and everything in between.

 

[Slothysleuthsloth]

Here’s a little info for anyone that is not from the area that may be interested in doing some research.

The area where Danielle is alleged to have gone missing - and where her car was found - is officially known as Woodland Twp, Burlington County. It is more commonly known as Chatsworth.

The Zip Code is predominantly 08088, though parts of the Twp are 08015 and 08019. The Zip Code 08088 is the Vincentown Post Office, however there is no legal Municipality of Vincentown. Vincentown was/is the “Village” portion of Southampton. If you see a reference to “Vincentown”, it most likely is referring to anything within the 08088 Zip Code - NOT the actual Vincentown “Village”.
The 08088 “Vincentown” Zip Code actually encompasses Shamong, Southampton (“Vincentown”), Tabernacle & Woodland (Chatsworth).

I know Chatsworth. I grew up in the Pine Barrens in Burlington County, nearWharton state Forrest, it is a racist area. It is defiantly easy to get lost out there.
Between Vincentown and Chatsworth, there is another Wawa, and a State mental hospital. There is a gas station and a Bar on hwy 72. I used to camp Near New Greanta, I think the town was called tuckerton? I know there are many camp grounds and I pray she is found.

 

[mlhenn]

Mom Who Has Already Lost 2 Children Reveals Last Conversation with Daughter Before She Disappeared

The mother of Danielle Lopez, a New Jersey woman who has been missing for over a month now, tells PEOPLE she did not sense anything wrong with her daughter in their last conversation before she disappeared.

people.com

 

[Cagle]

Mom Who Has Already Lost 2 Children Reveals Last Conversation with Daughter Before She Disappeared

The mother of Danielle Lopez, a New Jersey woman who has been missing for over a month now, tells PEOPLE she did not sense anything wrong with her daughter in their last conversation before she disappeared.

people.com

SO much loss for this mother. My heart aches for her. I'm glad she's got some support but I'm sure it'll never be enough to absolve the pain of losing all three children. Sending lots of love and positive thoughts her way.

From the article:
Lopez is Quackenbush’s only surviving child. Her eldest son Michael died by suicide in 2015, followed 10 months later by her younger son Michael, a Marine who had returned from Afghanistan, in a vehicle incident in Florida.

“That's been a lot,” Quackenbush says. “And then Danielle, shortly after that, lost her grandfather who she had been living with in Delran at the time. She lost him to COVID, and her father a month later.”

..snipped

Quackenbush says that she joined an organization called the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors (TAPS) after the death of her son Michael. “I have been able to be a peer mentor to many other moms who have lost multiple children,” she says. “So over the years, I've given back to that organization by being a peer mentor. Now I'm in need, and TAPS is wrapping themselves around me with all the support that they can offer.”

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I hope LE has processed the car for evidence in case it becomes necessary.

May there be a miracle for this case. My heart goes out to Danielle's mother and other relatives.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) this might be worth an elimination for someone. Working on it now, but at a first glance there's a few things that line up, mainly physical. Going to find her online.

 

[Knox]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) this might be worth an elimination for someone. Working on it now, but at a first glance there's a few things that line up, mainly physical. Going to find her online.

Please let us know what you find out. Thanks!

 

[Angelcat13]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) this might be worth an elimination for someone. Working on it now, but at a first glance there's a few things that line up, mainly physical. Going to find her online.

Definitely needs to be ruled out, but I would hope that police working on identifying an unidentified body would quickly look to rule out any missing persons in the general are (in this case that would include South Jersey because of its proximity and the ease/frequency to travel back and forth).

Not that people don’t change clothes and jewelry, but I did a quick check of pictures of Danielle that are available online and it doesn’t look like she typically wears earrings and the one picture I can see a necklace in doesn’t match the one found with the body. And assuming she may have disappeared shortly after the last know photo of her (leaving the WaWa on Route 72), the description of the pants doesn’t match either.

Hoping this is not Danielle and that she is alive somewhere and will hopefully be found/returned to her family soon. Hoping the woman whose body was found in Philly will be identified and justice served (if it was not a natural or accidental death) and prayers for her family and friends.

Danielle…WHERE ARE YOU!

 

[feels_close_to_home]

Definitely needs to be ruled out, but I would hope that police working on identifying an unidentified body would quickly look to rule out any missing persons in the general are (in this case that would include South Jersey because of its proximity and the ease/frequency to travel back and forth).

Not that people don’t change clothes and jewelry, but I did a quick check of pictures of Danielle that are available online and it doesn’t look like she typically wears earrings and the one picture I can see a necklace in doesn’t match the one found with the body. And assuming she may have disappeared shortly after the last know photo of her (leaving the WaWa on Route 72), the description of the pants doesn’t match either.

Hoping this is not Danielle and that she is alive somewhere and will hopefully be found/returned to her family soon. Hoping the woman whose body was found in Philly will be identified and justice served (if it was not a natural or accidental death) and prayers for her family and friends.

Danielle…WHERE ARE YOU!

Same thoughts exactly. The heights are also quite a bit off, but I've seen a 5'11'' woman reported as found as 5'4'' before; it happens. Also, a similar case was nearby (Cincinnati, 2023 Nov, i want to say), the victim literally lived a few blocks over, sat unidentified for quite a while, with pleas on the news for people to help identify.

This tipped my 25% scale for sleuthing, so I figured it warranted some eyes. Now either "the case" or "both cases" will have more awareness. My HOPE and EXPECTED OUTCOME here is this is not Danielle. But today? You just never know.

irrigardless your feelings toward cops; if we really take ALL context into account, they're all overworked. There's not enough people to do these jobs; you've seen the education system and how the funding works. So sometimes we try to figure it out.

I'm a hunter of the truth. It irks me sometimes when I don't know something. It makes me angry to see all these faceless victims. It worries me when I see another missing person pop up. I have a pretty high skillset in the dev world and can do a lot of searches and data mining faster and more efficiently than a lot of these tools as is. I have all the individual pieces scattered about, but I just can't seem to put them all together. I want to help. I want to bring awareness to these people. I want to find them. Absolutely no one deserves to be faceless.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

do we know what direction this is? I thought there was a better photo but i apparently didn't save it.

edit: why am i hiding what i'm doing? Along both routes there are multiple businessess and houses. What do almost all of these have today? Home Security Cameras! Sadly, this is more than 15 days ago (avg time out i use for 'security cam footage' look up), so it's probably moot at this point, but any one of those camera could contain who was driving that car. We know where it is. We know where it most likely came from. From that alone, a simple ride down the streets in google maps gives you every single location that might have a camera, adjust for time; something being newly constructed in August 2023 is probably finished and being monitored. But all it would take is for one camera, probably among hundreds, to have captured a single frame of the car. It's all you need to go deeper.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

Finally mapped out the campsite, IMO the chances of DL driving the car to it's final destination is extremely unlikely in almost any scenario i can come up with what i currently know.

There's some notes i have that i need to map out to see if there's anything at all in that direction she could have been legitimatly heading toward, but I don't see anything.

THEORY: I do however see what I would think would be a good place to try to dispose of a car, in the literal center of a state forest. And If you were looking at a map from the campground looking for a spot to dispose of a car; it's a great spot to have tried to drop it, but "they" got stuck in the mud, needed to go get something to pull it out. Come back and it's either gone or someone's in the process of moving it out. If i can figure out the "who is they" in this situation, I can attempt determine if that person would be more likely at this point to turn around and leave, or to insert themeselves more into the situation and assist with the removal as a passerby, because a lot of "them" always think they'll get away with it if they can control it, which they almost never can. [they's in this case being unknowns; ie the people who think they can get away with murder because they have a plan, etc].