I just listened to the phone call conversation NG played on this podcast. I know this has been discussed many times. But I never heard this recording before. If it was posted here, I missed hearing it.
I am not sure who is doing a phone interview with Noema, Jeannette Reyes action news is mentioned. but this could be a follow up with LE after the 911 call was placed because the woman speaking to Noema says, "We have the officers..." and then Noema replies that an officer is there.
During this interview, you can here this woman relaying the phone conversation with Noema back to a man in the room with her. I am posting the description conversation of the men who could have abducted Dulce and how it changed.
NG: "The narrative is now drastically changing."
(08:55 mark) You can hear Noema telling a woman on the phone what people at the park told her, who may have taken Dulce.
A woman asks Noema, "You did not see anyone else around there that she could possibly have went with?"
Noema replies, "No, not that I know of because we didn't tell no one. There is just some people that are here that said they saw her running through some houses in the back. They said that they saw two men. They said they saw a black guy and,"
When she is trying to finish her sentence to the woman over the phone, to let her know the description of the second man, Noema continues on to say, "A Mexican man with two kids," but this woman is not even listening to her, she never heard her because her thoughts were thinking of what she was going to ask Noema next. She started speaking when Noema was still talking.
She interrupted Noema with another question asking, "Whose, who, who is saying that they saw them?" She did not even hear the description of the second man, what Noema said.
Then this woman tells the man that Noema told her Dulce was running through the houses with two black males, she is light skinned, Spanish. Noema never said that and she never corrected this woman when she heard her repeat this information wrong to the man. She should have corrected her and told her NO, it was not two black males, it was a black man and a Mexican man with 2 kids.
NG: "Which One Is It?" (13:40) talks about The Red Flags...
At (14:00 m) John Cardillo former NYPD give his opinion and says he does not believe a word this mother says and she needs to be the primary suspect. He is comparing Dulces disappearance to the Polly Klaas case.
Podcast 10/11 I listened to this one because it is on the middle of the page once it is found. It is easier for me to play and pause.
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