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My opinion only, but I believe that is LM and not his twin brother being interviewed in that video. I spent way too much time on the SixJigglyMoobs and LM's YouTube pages, analyzing LM: facial expressions, sound of voice, mannerisms. Now if I see a video of one of the M twins, or both of the M twins, I'm willing to bet a lot of money that I know who is who.
That "kisses" video is indeed an M sibling. You can hear LM call that sibling by name in the video. That sibling is also featured in a SixJigglyMoobs video that features LM, twin brother, and PT. (Twin brother is the one who is holding M sibling's hand, not LM.)
You know, it's none of my business, but I want to understand WHY LM and PT did what they have been accused of doing to SS. Why was LM so desperate for her money? I don't think we ever got an answer for that, and we probably never will, but I just don't get it.
I also agree that LM is a psychopath, rather than a sociopath. There is a pretty distinct difference between the two: Psychopaths are genetically predisposed to be that way. This is why personality disorders, as well as developmental disorders, used to be on their own axis (axis II) in the DSM-IV; they are incredibly hard to treat because simply put, they are a part of who the person is. Sociopaths almost always become that way based on their upbringing, and their life has usually been full of trauma. I'll make a generalization, but please note this is not the end-all, be-all for defining psychopaths versus sociopaths... Sociopaths learn to disassociate over time in order to protect themselves from their feelings, and psychopaths never had feelings to begin with. (Source: I'm a MICD therapist, currently pursing my doctorate degree in clinical psychology, and I reference my DSM-V more than any other book I own.)
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Is this the frame you were wanting Bunny? I grabbed what I could but I am not sure its clear enough to tell any details.
@V27, I'm referring to this pic. PT has jeans and dark jacket, to the right is LM with hoodie (looking at phone). Behind PT and the sign is someone in tan pants. Then to right of LM ia another possible friend with dark jacket.
I watched it full screen. Maybe we can a shot that's more clear.
We know Sarah came into an inheritance and so far it seems like that has been the motive ie money. I wonder if Mr. Stern was aware that she kept money in a safety deposit box because I don't think it's something a 19 yr old would commonly do.
What if that money belonged to LM and TP? LM (along with TP's knowledge) asked Sarah to hold that money for him so that it could not be tied to him in any way. Maybe they did not want to keep it in their apartment if at one time they (LM and TP) where low level dealers or it was stolen cash from a family business or somewhere/someone else. Sarah might've been kind enough to hold it for them as well as smart enough not to have that kind of money laying around so she got the security box.
If this could be a possible scenario, LM would have had no problem getting Sarah to go to the bank and get the cash. In fact it would make complete sense why they went together. Sadly she might've been the only witness to the boys having that money and that is why they killed her. They planned it all out to make it look like a robbery by having "their" money in her security box which would make that money untraceable to them and however they might've gotten it. I hope family, friends, places of work ect have checked their finances with a fine tooth comb.
JMO
I thought that was PT, if not sure looks like him. Can you get a clear shot @00:18 of the four of them? You get great shots!
This is the best I can grab...
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@Oller. It's been determined that it's LM in the search video.
After watching many of their videos, I can tell them apart.
Thank you, BunnyHop! Glad we know! Was that information in the sealed record information that was released yesterday? I admit that I only skimmed the documents!
Yep that's it. How did you upload? Maybe I can learn. :thinking:
How ironic that Liam was a Psychology major? Ugh
That's the tricky part of the theory I was trying to describe (and again, it's just a theory) LM would naturally be charged with robbery because that's exactly what it would look like because the money came from Sarah's safety security box, leaving only 3 people knowing the truth SS, LM, and PT as to whose money it was.The money belonging to LM and/or TP is definitely possible, IMO. I was actually wondering about this possibility yesterday (thus being kind of a pest trying to figure out why she would have such a large sum of money in a safe deposit box, rather than in a savings account, etc.; I never suspected Sarah was involved in something illegal herself), but couldn't come up with a reason as to why they would ask her to safe-keep it for them. I do get the impression, however, that the funds belonged to Sarah, given the fact that LM -at least for the time being- has been charged with robbery.
I think it is also possible that the money came from the fundraisers for Mrs. Stern and perhaps Mr. Stern and/or Sarah did not feel comfortable keeping donated money in an interest-bearing account, but why not at least in the form of a cashier's check? Or maybe they did (i.e., had a cashier's check made out to Sarah kept in a safe deposit box), and LM was somehow able to get Sarah to cash it at the bank. If LM was indeed able to talk Sarah into lend him money, I wonder just what kind of story he could have been telling her ... starting up a movie production company?
LM seems like such a manipulative spin-doctor, I'm just having a very hard time with the supposed facts of this case, especially with regard to Sarah's location. I want her found so badly, not only for the sake of her loved ones -her poor dad, especially- , but for prosecutory purposes also. I feel strongly that these are very dangerous individuals, and if either one of them -LM, especially- were to be back on the streets ever again, they would re-offend. They just can't help themselves, unfortunately.
:Welcome1:Hi. New poster here. I am deeply saddened by the loss of Sarah. I have been following your posts and your insights. I am grateful you have continued your conversations.
I think we all want to understand why LM and PT did this to Sarah. LM and PT have a narrative for their actions from the get go and it raises more questions than it does answers. Even the defense atty said the confessions sound scripted which begs the question, why? Is there another aspect in all of this that hasn't come to light yet? Other players, other reasons, we don't even know for fact that LM was desperate for money.My opinion only, but I believe that is LM and not his twin brother being interviewed in that video. I spent way too much time on the SixJigglyMoobs and LM's YouTube pages, analyzing LM: facial expressions, sound of voice, mannerisms. Now if I see a video of one of the M twins, or both of the M twins, I'm willing to bet a lot of money that I know who is who.
That "kisses" video is indeed an M sibling. You can hear LM call that sibling by name in the video. That sibling is also featured in a SixJigglyMoobs video that features LM, twin brother, and PT. (Twin brother is the one who is holding M sibling's hand, not LM.)
You know, it's none of my business, but I want to understand WHY LM and PT did what they have been accused of doing to SS. Why was LM so desperate for her money? I don't think we ever got an answer for that, and we probably never will, but I just don't get it.
I also agree that LM is a psychopath, rather than a sociopath. There is a pretty distinct difference between the two: Psychopaths are genetically predisposed to be that way. This is why personality disorders, as well as developmental disorders, used to be on their own axis (axis II) in the DSM-IV; they are incredibly hard to treat because simply put, they are a part of who the person is. Sociopaths almost always become that way based on their upbringing, and their life has usually been full of trauma. I'll make a generalization, but please note this is not the end-all, be-all for defining psychopaths versus sociopaths... Sociopaths learn to disassociate over time in order to protect themselves from their feelings, and psychopaths never had feelings to begin with. (Source: I'm a MICD therapist, currently pursing my doctorate degree in clinical psychology, and I reference my DSM-V more than any other book I own.)