GUILTY NM - Alexis Avila, 18, caught on camera tossing newborn into dumpster, Hobbs, Jan 2022

[Kiranerys]

i believe she was prob in denial. she deserves to face consequences tho.

my heart breaks for that poor little baby. im hoping he never remembers this or is reminded, and i hope someone holds him and gives him close contact. when mine were newborns they always wanted to be held and i imagine being held all nice and warm inside then rudely pushed out into the cold has a lot to do w that

Yes!. I think the sounds too,they come out from this tight little safe space right next to your heartbeat and all of a sudden they are squeezed and squashed along and bam,out into this big space,no comforting swishing,no gentle drum beat,just space and strange sounds. It must be the most traumatic experience.
Thankfully most are swaddled and loved and cherished,not wrapped in a dirty wet towel and tied up in a trash bag then left to die.

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, February 2nd:
*Preliminary Hearing (willful & deliberate) (@ 9am MT) - NM - Saul, newborn (Jan. 7, 2022 found in dumpster behind Rig Outfitters Jan. 2022, Hobbs; newborn is in stable condition at Lubbock hospital) - *Alexis Nicole Avila (18) arrested & charged (1/8/22) & arraigned (willful) (1/12/22) with attempt to commit a felony, to wit: 1st degree murder (Felony Murder) & attempt to commit a felony, to wit: 1st degree murder (Willful & Deliberate).
She confessed to investigators. Fifth Judicial District prosecutors said the charges could be amended once Avila is arraigned.
The video showed a woman pulling up in a white car around 2 p.m. MT Friday, unceremoniously tossing a black bag from the backseat into the dumpster and driving off & the rescuers who pulled her to safety five to six hours later. Investigators would not release the suspected father's identity because he is a juvenile. Grandfather of baby, father of juvenile father named the baby Saul.
1/7/22 Update: Arraignment hearing on murder willful & deliberate on 1/12/22 @ 2:15pm & detention & preliminary hearing on felony murder on 1/12/22 @ 2:30pm. 1/10/22: State files expedited motion for pretrial detention. 1/12/22 Update: Felony: Demand for Discovery. Certificate of disclosure of information. Demand for preservation of evidence. Willful: Disclosure request. Demand for alibi. Witness list & amended. Interim Order of conditions of release.
1/12/22: Felony: Order of appointment of Special Assistant DA. Bench trial commenced. Willful/Deliberate: Advice of rights on first appearance under Rule 5-301 is waived. Order of appointment of Special Assistant DA. Avila was arraigned in Lea County. Judge William Shoobridge decided Avila is under house arrest until her trial. Some conditions of her house arrest are that she cannot leave her house unless she is going to school, a job, receiving medical or psychological counseling, church if her family is also attending. She is not allowed to have or be on social media, she is not allowed to be around her child or any child under the age of 10. She is also not allowed to have any male visitors at her home. She is required to wear an ankle monitor. The judge said, “If you go somewhere, I’ll be notified & you’ll go straight to jail.” He also told the courtroom the house arrest conditions will protect the community without her being in jail. 1/12/22: Willful: No pleading filed. 1/14/22: Felony: Order denying pretrial detention & establishing strict conditions of release & amended. 1/19/22: Willful: Order: stipulated Confidentiality Order.
1/21/22: Willful: Motion for Joinder. Felony: Request for copy of tapes/CD/audio. 1/24/22: Willful: Order of joinder. 1/24/22: Willful: Order: Joinder. 1/26/22: Appearance of co-counsel M. Probasco & C. Dillon. Willful: Next preliminary hearing on 2/2/22. 1/27/22: Witness list-2nd amended. Felon: No update as of 2/2/22, last hearing was 1/12/22.

 

[Niner]

Looks like they took off the preliminary hearing on 2/2/22 or it was vacated.

Willful charge:

Docket update:
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
01/31/2022 ORD: OF CONTINUANCE D 1

01/31/2022 MTN: FOR CONTINUANCE

01/31/2022 WITNESS LIST
Third Amended

link: Stale Session


and no update on the felony charge.

 

[gitana1]

I thought a good deal about your post before replying. I would have sympathy for her if she left him at a shopping centre, a public place, somewhere he'd be found quite quickly, she could've been heavily disguised and no vehicle to detect. No matter her feelings towards the baby she can still value life.
It's shocking because most people value life and for some reason, Avila doesn't. It's not as rare as we'd like it to be, sadly. The newborn is seen as a thing, an object to discard, a problem to be solved in a drastic manner. The age of the person usually doesn't factor into it, it's carried out by all ages across the board.
If AA believes the baby is her property and she can do with it what she likes, well, that's distorted thinking which needs addressing. The baby is a separate entity and deserves life no matter what she's been taught or shown.

Luckily, the little boy survived and as a result, AA will probably receive a low sentence, imo. We do have compassion for single young mothers in present times, even if it doesn't appear so when these stories first break. I'm sure the lawyer will paint a picture of the accused as a victim, she'll be the main focus and little if anything will be said about the baby.

There's CCTV, it's not wild guesswork about the disappearance of a baby, AA's action was recorded as she attempted to rid herself and this planet, of a life. If society didn't react in a horrified manner, I'd be concerned about the course we're taking. Children were once not valued, are we to return to those times?

If the msm quote is correct, her mother's statement is worrying, throwing a baby into a dumpster is a mistake?
AA didn't take a wrong turn at an intersection, she chose to end a life, her mother minimizing her daughter's actions is a red flag. In saying all that, her words may have been deliberately misconstrued by a reporter, therefore my response is only to the article.
JMO

Bravo.

 

[Gardenista]

Full interrogation released

VIDEO: Police question Hobbs teen after baby abandoned in dumpster

 

[IceIce9]

Full interrogation released

VIDEO: Police question Hobbs teen after baby abandoned in dumpster

Avila: I wrapped it in a towel. I didn't know what to do. I was scared.

Police investigator: You weren't expecting it to happen

Avila: No. Nothing changed. I drove around and put it where I put it. I had the trash bag in the car. I put it in the bag. I took it to the car. I drove around, I didn't know what to do.

She had the trash bag in the car. She put “it” in the bag. She put “it” where she put “it.”

 

[Kiranerys]

She seems to rely very heavily on her Mum. She doesn't appear as calculating as I thought she would but its very hard to get a read on her and her state of mind.
I don't think he helped with that, I'm not sure I liked the way he dealt with her. Obviously he is affected by what she did,who wouldn't be?, but his job is to go in there and get her story without judgement and I dont feel that he did that. He came across as angry to me and that's not the best way to get someone to relax and talk to you freely imo.

 

[Kakidoll]

is there ANYONE who has watched that video that actually believes her story? She started off with the little girl voice, then that dropped off. This was calculated, planned and she KNEW she was pregnant. And i doubt very much her mother is NOT involved in this. Freaking ridiculous. Not one ounce of sympathy from me.

 

[MsMarple]

is there ANYONE who has watched that video that actually believes her story? She started off with the little girl voice, then that dropped off. This was calculated, planned and she KNEW she was pregnant. And i doubt very much her mother is NOT involved in this. Freaking ridiculous. Not one ounce of sympathy from me.

I don't believe one word out of her mouth. Her defense for tossing her newborn baby in a dumpster like trash is that she only just turned 18 (28:12). How does that justify premeditated murder??

She wrapped the baby in a towel. She had two trash bags, one in the car and one that she took with her (30:17). She put "it" in the bag then took it to the car and put "it" in another trash bag.

By her own admission she drove around and finally threw the baby into "the trash." Ugh, she says this with no emotion, as if she was tossing a fast food bag.

As soon as the detective starts to talk about right from wrong he reminds her she's 18 and she jumps in to say she only just turned 18 (33:10). She becomes frustrated when she sees the detective isn't buying her sob story.

Ugh, she ignores any and all references to throwing a newborn, a human being, into the trash and instead focuses on insisting that she's correct in minor details (i.e. her lies). No tears, just working hard to ply her story.

She claims that the doctor she saw the day before who informed her she was pregnant didn't tell her how far along she was (42:37). She claims to have had a period every month. Halfway through she reluctantly admits she kinda/sorta knew she was pregnant back in August. Never felt the baby move.

@40:20 she says if the baby's okay she wants "it." OMG.

What on earth ever made this young woman think she had the right to murder a newborn baby? My 5 year old grandson wouldn't toss a newborn into the trash. Heck, he wouldn't toss a newborn kitten into the trash. And this woman wants us to excuse her behavior 'cuz she's young and scared?

For goodness sakes, put her in jail and teach her (and baby daddy) about birth control. She's a danger to human lives right now, especially newborns. MOO.

 

[Gardenista]

She seems to rely very heavily on her Mum. She doesn't appear as calculating as I thought she would but its very hard to get a read on her and her state of mind.
I don't think he helped with that, I'm not sure I liked the way he dealt with her. Obviously he is affected by what she did,who wouldn't be?, but his job is to go in there and get her story without judgement and I dont feel that he did that. He came across as angry to me and that's not the best way to get someone to relax and talk to you freely imo.

I'm not sure why you think the cop is not supposed to show judgement. That's exactly what they are supposed to do.

 

[Kiranerys]

I'm not sure why you think the cop is not supposed to show judgement. That's exactly what they are supposed to do.

No,it isn't and he specifically said he wasn't there to judge her.

 

[Gardenista]

No,it isn't and he specifically said he wasn't there to judge her.

If they didn't judge the people they interview, there would never be an arrest.

 

[Kiranerys]

If they didn't judge the people they interview, there would never be an arrest.

Nonsense. They arrest people because they have a suspicion that they are responsible for a crime, and they interview them to gather their version of events and to try to find holes in their story,or to confirm the facts as they know them to be. Judging a suspect has nothing to do with it,that's what a trial is for.

 

[LeeAnnB]

After watching the interrogation I lost any empathy I might have for this gal. I thought the interrogator was so-so, some are better at hiding their true feelings about suspects behavior than others. I’m an interrogation addict, so I’ve seen them all. Lol

 

[Gardenista]

Nonsense. They arrest people because they have a suspicion that they are responsible for a crime, and they interview them to gather their version of events and to try to find holes in their story,or to confirm the facts as they know them to be. Judging a suspect has nothing to do with it,that's what a trial is for.

Suspicion? He had already seen this woman toss a baby in a dumpster. He already knew she was lying about not knowing she was pg etc...

 

[Kiranerys]

Suspicion? He had already seen this woman toss a baby in a dumpster. He already knew she was lying about not knowing she was pg etc...

I was speaking in general terms about arrests as a whole. I'm not disputing she is guilty,she is guilty exactly as charged and if you read back you will find my opinion of her actions.
It is my opinion (which is why I said imo) that this officer let his personal feelings direct the way he conducted the interview, at times he got plain ratty with her and I don't think that was helpful. She told him more when he was just asking her questions, when he clearly showed his disapproval and judgement of her actions she clammed up and started playing the " I am barely 18" card . You catch more flies with honey as the saying goes.

I am not saying he shouldn't judge her actions,of course he should,she threw her baby in the trash without a second thought and obviously did it so he would die and she would be free, who the heck wouldn't judge her? But he had a job to do, one in which he expressly said he wasn't there to judge her and then he clearly let his judgement and disapproval show.
I don't think that was the way to go,maybe you do and that's fine,everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Agree this was her plan - to try to make it all just go away. Otherwise she would have called for help or an ambulance when she realized she was in labor.

 

[happyday]

Ugh. So terrible. She had just so many other options. Even if she was terrified of someone/something, even if she was abused or raised in a way that encouraged bad choices, no matter what—an 18 year old should have empathy for a newborn baby she just brought into the world. An 18 year old should understand right from wrong and be incapable of killing a baby no matter how much of a “problem” the baby would cause her. The fact that she drove around before throwing the baby away means she could have driven somewhere public the baby would have been found quickly. Anywhere! She could have driven a few towns away if she were worried and left the baby at a church or something. Anything at all. She had the means, the time and the opportunity to do absolutely anything else but to try to kill the baby. But that’s what she did, and that tells me something is very wrong with her and that she is dangerous. Some posts have mentioned sociopathic, and I have to agree. I can’t think of any other way a person could throw a live baby away in the trash to die when there were absolutely options. She could have stayed anonymous.

 

[Niner]

and then she says she wants "it" back.... I highly doubt that!

 

[IceIce9]

and then she says she wants "it" back.... I highly doubt that!

I hope she is never allowed to be anywhere near that baby. I realize she probably won’t get any jail time but I wish she would.