NM NM - Guadalupe Co, WhtFem 17-25, UP17089, Killed on BD (11-Jul-78) by RLanphear, Jul'78

[Gourami Watcher]

She's officially on the Doe Network today.

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For those who may question the reasoning for the "no photo available" notice on her page (which I helped create), the Doe Network is not supposed to add renderings that aren't solicited by law enforcement. I had gotten away with adding my own renderings, as well as those from other Websleuths before one of the admins informed me of this policy. Apparently, an unsolicited rendering can result in a "cease and desist order" from the investigating agency.
There is, however, a link to the girl's postmortem on the page. As I've learned through my own research, a morgue photograph may not accurately depict a victim (as the result of the effect of death affecting their expression), but it's the closest representation of her that is allowed on the site. I hope that the investigating agencies will get Guadeloupe Jane Doe a "solicited" rendering in the future.

 

[AddysMom7610]

Thanks for getting her into Doe! For those of you who dont follow my fb page, I have some hopeful news.

In June, I randomly got a phone call from an investigator from NMSP and he said was going to work the case! I was blown away! I told him everything I knew then heard nothing until I called him back two weeks ago. He got promoted so the case got reassigned to LT Clay Goret of NMSP. He asked me to email him everything I had so I did. Havent heard anything yet...but I will stay positive. At least SOMEONE is looking into it.

I found an article stating her mom lived in Pennsylvania, not California BUT I cant decide if that is bad reporting or which article is wrong? I will upload both articles.

 

[Bit of hope]

Thanks for getting her into Doe! For those of you who dont follow my fb page, I have some hopeful news.

In June, I randomly got a phone call from an investigator from NMSP and he said was going to work the case! I was blown away! I told him everything I knew then heard nothing until I called him back two weeks ago. He got promoted so the case got reassigned to LT Clay Goret of NMSP. He asked me to email him everything I had so I did. Havent heard anything yet...but I will stay positive. At least SOMEONE is looking into it.

I found an article stating her mom lived in Pennsylvania, not California BUT I cant decide if that is bad reporting or which article is wrong? I will upload both articles.

Better than nothing. Thanks for all the good work your are doing. And of course all you other sleuthers too.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I emailed the editor of the Santa Rosa News regarding this case, providing a link to this thread and also the Facebook page. It is a small weekly paper now but appears to be the largest in that specific area. I have no idea if they will respond to me, or contact AddysMom or others who are doing direct research.

Hit or miss with small town media like that. Some won't mind briefly deviating from their typical approach with an article or two, while others will stick with plug and play local developments.

When I sample Websleuths in general my overriding belief is that media is underutilized, particularly in comparison to searching for one potential match after another using facial features, etc. I applaud that effort but logical weighting needs to be applied. Local media emphasis can spark a potentially significant memory or detail from someone who was involved at the time. But if they don't know anyone cares and is searching 40 years later, that memory is wasted and eventually gone.

Another option is contacting television stations, or larger media in Albuquerque which is due west on I-40, maybe 100 miles or so. You never know when some aggressive reporter is interested in the DNA genealogy angle but hasn't has cause to apply it to a local case.

I have driven that route between Las Vegas and Miami so many times. I normally stay for the night in Tucamcari, which is a small town east of Santa Rosa.

It looks like this case generated plenty of local news in the early stages. That's why I think there might be potential for revived interest and potential memory. I noted on the Facebook page that several local articles were linked from the first few weeks, with law enforcement sending specifics across the country in hopes of identifying the victim. Then apparently it all but stopped other than mentions of her during the trial.

I would try Diana again. It had to be shocking to her to be located and contacted out of the blue, on such an old traumatic topic. Later she might calm and reconsider. Maybe call and ask if it is okay to send her a letter. Sometimes an old fashioned hand written letter like that has amazing impact, and the reader returns to it again and again. Bottom line, Diana has so much more potential than anything else, toward identification. Nine failures and one tidbit from her is more valuable than 9 out of 10 successes with another source.

Otherwise, I might contact Las Vegas authorities. Since Lanphear was arrested there, and also the Jane Doe's guitar was pawned there and possibly recovered by law enforcement there, that would be Nevada police doing it, not New Mexico authorities. If Nevada was involved on multiple levels they could retain information in their records. It is likely that Nevada law enforcement was involved in the trial, toward testimony, etc. That is standard when crime sprees of this significance cross state lines.

Worth a try, anyway. I'm not sure if the proper contact point would be Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, or Nevada Highway Patrol, or Clark County Sheriff's Office, or City of Henderson Police, etc.

I lived in Las Vegas and Henderson for 24 years between 1984 and 2008. If I had to try one, it would be LVMPD first. They are also most likely to have someone who would care, and direct to a source who might have older records.

I am always amazed how many cases have some connection to Las Vegas. This case jumped out at me because after the prison escape the couple stayed at El Sombrero Motel on the Strip. That building was called Pollyanna, or something like that, when I was in town. I had a friend who stayed there so I had to drop him off there all the time. Let's just say it was the definition of cheap. It is far south on the Strip. The motel was torn down years ago but the city is expanding in all directions and recently I was told there are plans for some huge Pinball arcade on that property.

Best of luck on this case

 

[AddysMom7610]

Thank you for your interest. I have tried Peoria PD but since they only arrested, they dont keep those records. I would assume its the same for LVPD. I have some things in the works and will share when I can.
Since Ronald is still alive and still a danger, even behind bars, I have to be careful what I post. Some new things have developed, but again, I do not feel comfortable sharing just yet.

The news is a possible avenue but since the hitchhiker almost certainly was not from NM, Im not sure what good it would do. But of course, publicity is always good.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

I am taking the liberty of posting this new revised recon by CarlK., which Charley Project reposted just now.

 

[AddysMom7610]

A few updates for everyone. Diane finally opened up to me but she really wasnt very helpful. Apparently she has health issues and it has caused some memory problems. Some of the information that she gave didnt make sense at all so Im really not sure she is going to be able to help. She did say that Carl's rendering looked to be "too old" and Im not sure how to make her look more babyish. She said she didnt remember her having any bags or a coin purse, just the guitar and case. She didnt remember pawning the guitar (which the cops verified that they did pawn the guitar) and she couldnt remember where they picked her up. She is still very scared of Ronald Lanphear and that could be affecting her recalling details. He is still alive and in prison in California.
I also got the autopsy report and autopsy photos which Ive cleaned up and put on my facebook page. It showed most of the jewelry she was wearing which was very native american themed. I also have copies of her dental records but they arent much help because one of the bullets went through her mouth which shattered most of her teeth and also her top lip. Also, they sent her femur off to UNT to get DNA but I have not heard whether it was successful or not yet. Hopefully it was...
As for the case file, OMI cannot find it. Its been missing since her file was pulled when I first contacted them back in 2017. This REALLY upsets me. I cant believe you could just misplace something this important. They assure me that as soon as it turns up, they will send me everything. We will see....

 

[Rojofox]

A few updates for everyone. Diane finally opened up to me but she really wasnt very helpful. Apparently she has health issues and it has caused some memory problems. Some of the information that she gave didnt make sense at all so Im really not sure she is going to be able to help. She did say that Carl's rendering looked to be "too old" and Im not sure how to make her look more babyish. She said she didnt remember her having any bags or a coin purse, just the guitar and case. She didnt remember pawning the guitar (which the cops verified that they did pawn the guitar) and she couldnt remember where they picked her up. She is still very scared of Ronald Lanphear and that could be affecting her recalling details. He is still alive and in prison in California.
I also got the autopsy report and autopsy photos which Ive cleaned up and put on my facebook page. It showed most of the jewelry she was wearing which was very native american themed. I also have copies of her dental records but they arent much help because one of the bullets went through her mouth which shattered most of her teeth and also her top lip. Also, they sent her femur off to UNT to get DNA but I have not heard whether it was successful or not yet. Hopefully it was...
As for the case file, OMI cannot find it. Its been missing since her file was pulled when I first contacted them back in 2017. This REALLY upsets me. I cant believe you could just misplace something this important. They assure me that as soon as it turns up, they will send me everything. We will see....

You contacted the wife of a serial killer. Wow. You’re amazing, thanks for doing that. I wonder how honest she was being? I don’t know much about the couple at all. Again, thanks for reaching out to her.

 

[MadMcGoo]

I was looking through missing person profiles and old newspaper archives for a potential match to this UID, but I’m curious now how certain we are that she had curly hair. I’ve been looking at the post mortem photo for a couple of hours and I initially thought it looked curly - now I’m not so positive. I doubt this is Lisa, but something about her reminds me of the UID. I wanted to get clarification or opinions about the hair before I looked any further.

Lisa Joy White – The Charley Project


I think it’s wonderful what you’ve done in this case Addysmom!

 

[Bit of hope]

I was looking through missing person profiles and old newspaper archives for a potential match to this UID, but I’m curious now how certain we are that she had curly hair. I’ve been looking at the post mortem photo for a couple of hours and I initially thought it looked curly - now I’m not so positive. I doubt this is Lisa, but something about her reminds me of the UID. I wanted to get clarification or opinions about the hair before I looked any further.

Lisa Joy White – The Charley Project
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I think it’s wonderful what you’ve done in this case Addysmom!

Looking at the PM picture I think the hair was curly, but if it was natural I don't remember. She also has a lot of straw? in her hair.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Looking at the PM picture I think the hair was curly, but if it was natural I don't remember. She also has a lot of straw? in her hair.

Yeah, her hair seemed to be sort of unique. I think that’s why Lisa stood out to me. I imagine that color hair is similar to what we’re looking for. Not many girls I found had hair that light (naturally).

 

[AddysMom7610]

Finally got all of the records from OMI (only took three years) but it wasnt much help. A few things I know....

Her hair was more than likely naturally medium brown in color because her pubic hair was this color.

Her blood type is O+ and the DNA is still in limbo somewhere....no idea if UNT received it or if OMI has received it. Namus will not tell me either.

Her teeth were well maintained and she had very good dental work done. She had two fillings done. However, the autopsy did say that she had not seen in a dentist in the last three to nine months. So I will narrow down my search to missing persons starting circa Sept 1977.

Im now not sure if her DOB is July 10 or July 11. I think she was killed late July 10 or early morning hours of July 11 (either way, Im sure it was done in the cover of dark) so Im considering restarting my search of July 10 1961 California births. Lord help me LOL

Again thank you to everyone who has helped and continue to help.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Finally got all of the records from OMI (only took three years) but it wasnt much help. A few things I know....

Her hair was more than likely naturally medium brown in color because her pubic hair was this color.

Her blood type is O+ and the DNA is still in limbo somewhere....no idea if UNT received it or if OMI has received it. Namus will not tell me either.

Her teeth were well maintained and she had very good dental work done. She had two fillings done. However, the autopsy did say that she had not seen in a dentist in the last three to nine months. So I will narrow down my search to missing persons starting circa Sept 1977.

Im now not sure if her DOB is July 10 or July 11. I think she was killed late July 10 or early morning hours of July 11 (either way, Im sure it was done in the cover of dark) so Im considering restarting my search of July 10 1961 California births. Lord help me LOL

Again thank you to everyone who has helped and continue to help.

Thank you for getting all this!!! You’ve done much more than most, so I appreciate that. Hopefully one of us here can be do something will all of it! <3

 

[Diavola]

Bumping, she's been unidentified for over 43 years.

Does she have DNA on file?

 

[Bit of hope]

My gut feeling says she will be found, identified...

 

[Laughing]

Bumping, she's been unidentified for over 43 years.

Does she have DNA on file?

Upthread, stated that a femur was sent to the Texas lab -- but unknown if extraction was successful.

 

[carbuff]

I would think July 10 is the more likely day for her birthday, because she called her mother at least a couple of hours before she was killed.

 

[Springrain]

I would think July 10 is the more likely day for her birthday, because she called her mother at least a couple of hours before she was killed.

I thought she was killed before she called her mother?

 

[carbuff]

I thought she was killed before she called her mother?

Smartypants.

My point that it was a couple of hours, which would seem to me to push the birthday earlier. But you know that.

 

[Springrain]

Smartypants.

My point that it was a couple of hours, which would seem to me to push the birthday earlier. But you know that.

Oh, I get what you mean now lol