NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #3

[CARIIS]

Do they have gambling on these cruises? Do they have gambling in Dubai?

I would like to know dates -- and not surprised if casinos comped him -- especially if his role was to throw games in favor of the ship

My mothers lover was a golf pro and they used to cruise all over the world all he had to do was like 90 minutes of golf lessons for passengers and off they went !!

 

[bears10]

interview with a woman who used to work for him as a property manager... seems way different then the other things people have said about him. She also said she knows him better than a wife. I get a weird vibe from that/her.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooter-texas-20171006-story.html

 

[CARIIS]

Clinton County officials confirm that the man believed to be behind the deadliest mass shooting in American history was born in 1953 in Clinton, Iowa, the namesake county seat town of 25,719 people along the Mississippi River.

Weird statement no:

He would be 64 today, the same age as the Stephen Paddock

Paddock's birth father was Benjamin Paddock, of Sheboygan, Wisconsin, a fact which also matches biographical reports on the gunman. His mother was born in Illinois.

before the 1950s ended the family had moved to Tuscon, Arizona, and then moved again to California in the 1960s.
It's unclear how long the family may have been in the Clinton area.

http://qctimes.com/news/local/las-v...cle_7a5e1e9d-2393-5177-96ad-d9bc34b6e501.html

 

[CARIIS]

I think the cash payment stuff is to stay low key cause he was not employed really. IRS -- in all likelihood his income was obtained in a nefarious manner

In addition it also struck me that maybe the houses and vehicles might not be flashy for the same reasons just stay under cover and lie low .

Is Money laundering is becoming more an item -- the travel

are the places they visited good for like shell companies ?

Move money all over. Or arms?

Would be interesting to know what lines and ships they sailed on high end ??

Comped--- paid for in cash ?

Really would be interesting to hear from first two wives -- reasons for divorces--addiction? DV? infidelity

Might explain the vagabond stuff too -- dont get to close to neighbors .

Where on earth did the description of her a being a roomate in the beginning come from -- dating then lovers would be normal imo

 

[fred&edna]

interview with a woman who used to work for him as a property manager... seems way different then the other things people have said about him. She also said she knows him better than a wife. I get a weird vibe from that/her.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooter-texas-20171006-story.html

" “He was above the normal in a good way, in a beautiful way, for lack of a better term. You wanted to be around him because he was cool, he was cool to hang out with, he made you laugh.”?

I agree!! Very weird vibe

hwow:

 

[Shelby2]

Doctors do it with clonazepam and lorazepam, which are also in this class.

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I'm just catching up and saw this.
Detoxing from alcohol can be life threatening, a person detoxing would be admitted to the hospital and put on seizure protocols. Their progress needs to be medically supervised. I don't think any doctor today would have their patient detox at home. Not to mention how dangerous the combination of benzos and alcohol is, most doctors do not give benzos to someone they know has a serious drinking problem.

 

[bears10]

I'm just catching up and saw this.
Detoxing from alcohol can be life threatening, a person detoxing would be admitted to the hospital and put on seizure protocols. Their progress needs to be medically supervised. I don't think any doctor today would have their patient detox at home. Not to mention how dangerous the combination of benzos and alcohol is, most doctors do not give benzos to someone they know has a serious drinking problem.

My dads doctor did. 20mg a day. I’m a little surprised to hear other posters experiences with doctors and prescriptions because mine, my family’s, and close friends experiences seem to be very different from the posters here. IME general practitioners are a lot more lienient with scripts than specialists. Maybe that’s the difference in my case? After seeing so many people post that Valium is “old school” and that 10mg is extreme, I feel like I’d be considered a crackhead by other posters standards here. Yikes.

 

[CARIIS]

Thanks. It's what we call a people carrier in the UK.

How about child carrier!!

 

[iliketotalk15]

interview with a woman who used to work for him as a property manager... seems way different then the other things people have said about him. She also said she knows him better than a wife. I get a weird vibe from that/her.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooter-texas-20171006-story.html

Honestly, I'm not that surprised that some people saw good in him. I think a lot of people are probably pulling bad memories of him so that he fits the narrative of being an awful human being. He definitely is because of what he did, but I'm sure he had friends he had fun with, people who liked him, people who he was good to. I think we've seen how painful it can be to reconcile someone you loved with someone who did THIS, such as the brother's reaction.

MOO

 

[bears10]

Honestly, I'm not that surprised that some people saw good in him. I think a lot of people are probably pulling bad memories of him so that he fits the narrative of being an awful human being. He definitely is because of what he did, but I'm sure he had friends he had fun with, people who liked him, people who he was good to. I think we've seen how painful it can be to reconcile someone you loved with someone who did THIS, such as the brother's reaction.

The weird vibe I get comes from the way she expresses herself and the terms she uses. The delivery was strange.

Idk, it’s totally just my opinion, but if my former boss did something like this, despite how close we were, I don’t think I’d want to be known as someone who knew him better than a wife.

 

[jjenny]

Honestly, I'm not that surprised that some people saw good in him. I think a lot of people are probably pulling bad memories of him so that he fits the narrative of being an awful human being. He definitely is because of what he did, but I'm sure he had friends he had fun with, people who liked him, people who he was good to. I think we've seen how painful it can be to reconcile someone you loved with someone who did THIS, such as the brother's reaction.

MOO

I find it frustrating that despite the apparent desire by this suspect to kill as many people as he possibly could, we still don't have anything that suggests a motive.
If people who knew him are telling the truth, it doesn't appear he shared it with them, despite all the apparent planning he put into it.

 

[CARIIS]

Ah ha

so she actually was moving out !

His track record with intimate relationships aint all that great!!

Could have just been that tho!!

 

[bears10]

Ah ha

so she actually was moving out !

His track record with intimate relationships aint all that great!!

Could have just been that tho!!

According to neighbors he seemed to move out first. I’m inclinded to believe he just moved a little bit before her and they still were living together up until she left for the Philippines.

Unless you’re referring to something else, I’m not sure of the context of the post.

 

[HMSHood]

Paddock possibly psychotic but not ‘psychopath,’ experts say
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...bly-psychotic-but-not-psychopath-experts-say/

Benning said psychopaths, also sometimes referred to as sociopaths, share three characteristics — meanness, impulsiveness, or “disinhibition” in psychiatric parlance, and boldness. And generally, he said, they exhibit those qualities repeatedly over a lifetime.

Up until now, he said, Paddock hadn’t demonstrated any of those qualities. Benning noted that Paddock hadn’t had serious problems with the law, no history of assaulting people.

Nor did Paddock exhibit the charisma or daredevilry so often seen in psychopaths. He dabbled in real estate, worked in an airline factory and planned for tomorrow by buying homes. He was content to live, in effect, behind the scenes.

We still do not know much about Stephen Paddock.

Not all psychopaths are that charismatic. Some like to behind the scene.

Barker, who is now president and CEO of Red Rock Global Security Group in Colorado, said Paddock may have suffered from some sort of psychosis, though it’s impossible to say what it might have been at this stage of the investigation.

He said he believes the key to finding out what made Paddock act out in such a horrific way will be found in his childhood.

“I believe there was some trauma there,” he said.

I would be interested in Paddock's childhood. The father was largely absent in his life. I would be interested what kind of upbringing he had.

 

[joedotnet]

The firing rate using a bump stock isn't nearly that high, but it does approach the rate of a fully automatic firearm.

From the New York Times:
Nine Rounds a Second: How the Las Vegas Gunman Outfitted a Rifle to Fire Faster

Ummm...it says he was getting 9 rounds per second. 9x60=540


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[MizStery]

Oct. 06, 2017 - 6:42 - Former Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Lt. Randy Sutton on what happened during the Las Vegas shooting, and how the police managed to stop 64-year-old shooter Stephen Paddock.


My transcribed text from the linked video:
The video is 6 minutes. The Lt. describing the initial metro officers account of the mass shooting begins 1:24 into the video.
Lt.Sutton was briefed & on the linked video tells how 2 metro LV officers were at the hotel on another matter.When a call came in that there was a shooter at the outdoor concert.

Both metro officers and a couple of hotel security officers ran with their weapons drawn to confront the shooter at the actual outdoor concert.At this same time valets frantically were dialing 911 reporting that glass was raining down to their valet station and they could hear shots coming from the upper floors.

When the valets information came in on the police radio the metro and security officers ran back from the concert to the hotel.The officers thought from the rapid fire & what appeared to be broken windows the shots could be from the 31st or 32nd floors.

One of the metro officers ran to the 31 st floor and a hotel security officer ran to the 32nd.The security officer was able to isolate the gun fire as coming from Paddocks rooms. He was wounded and notified the other officers who then rushed to secure the elevators and stairwell on the 32nd floor.

The shooting had stopped and they guarded the exits until swat could arrive



I hope I transcribed the video accurately. If I made an error please post a correction.
:cow:

 

[illyana]

Worrying about his personality disorder now is pointless. I would argue psychopathy is probably wrong as it does not fit that disorder's pattern of long-term abuse of others and pure selfishness. It's much more the trait of the malignant paranoid or paranoid schizophrenic. But it's meaningless at this point. What a horror. An absolute horror.

Years of studying crime as a fiction writer have convinced me that a DNA database is mandatory and Federal regulation of firearms including mental health checks is needed. People in rural areas have a right to hunting arms, that is single-shot rifles for taking deer or shooting varmints. People also have a right to small arms like handguns for self-defense, especially people in high crime areas and stalked women. But nobody should be buying and selling military grade automatic weapons of the type that enabled this massacre. No way he can kill that many people that fast without military grade weaponry. He was better armed than any soldier in World War II or even the Vietnam War.

Most soldiers even as recent as World War II were armed with single shot rifles, not automatic weapons. Even in Vietnam, the M-16 rifle carried by most soldiers fired only .22 caliber rounds.

 

[ElleElle]

Paddock possibly psychotic but not ‘psychopath,’ experts say
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...bly-psychotic-but-not-psychopath-experts-say/

Benning said psychopaths, also sometimes referred to as sociopaths, share three characteristics — meanness, impulsiveness, or “disinhibition” in psychiatric parlance, and boldness. And generally, he said, they exhibit those qualities repeatedly over a lifetime.

Up until now, he said, Paddock hadn’t demonstrated any of those qualities. Benning noted that Paddock hadn’t had serious problems with the law, no history of assaulting people.

Nor did Paddock exhibit the charisma or daredevilry so often seen in psychopaths. He dabbled in real estate, worked in an airline factory and planned for tomorrow by buying homes. He was content to live, in effect, behind the scenes.

We still do not know much about Stephen Paddock.

Not all psychopaths are that charismatic. Some like to behind the scene.

Barker, who is now president and CEO of Red Rock Global Security Group in Colorado, said Paddock may have suffered from some sort of psychosis, though it’s impossible to say what it might have been at this stage of the investigation.

He said he believes the key to finding out what made Paddock act out in such a horrific way will be found in his childhood.

“I believe there was some trauma there,” he said.

I would be interested in Paddock's childhood. The father was largely absent in his life. I would be interested what kind of upbringing he had.

Would be interesting to see how he did in school, if he was bullied etc. Also, if he had any kind of head injury.

 

[CARIIS]

Investigators are trying to determine whether anyone else was in the Las Vegas gunman's hotel room during the time he was registered there, multiple senior law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation told NBC News.

The investigators are puzzled by two discoveries: First, a charger was found that does not match any of the cellphones that belonged to the gunman, Stephen Paddock.

And second: Garage records show that during a period when Paddock's car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room. ​

It also says he made $5m in 2015 from gambling.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/l...-probing-whether-others-were-gunman-s-n808431

Edit: An interesting slip, there. He had multiple cellphones... I wonder why.

I think that is big

 

[Sillybilly]

The "investigative journalist" twitter account info has been removed due to the individual being an alt-right political activist (so not considered MSM at Websleuths).

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