I have not seen a poster here imply that nothing happened, heard mention of crisis actors or state that martians did it .
Dishonesty is a trait - it is not typically an isolated behavior . Our only source on this entire tragedy is from the SHeriff only - who - from on the onset has displayed and tremendous propensity to be outright deceitful.
From hour one.
In his very first contact with media he declared to the wrold that he had determined that it was a lone wolf.
Sadly we all know too well that ruling out more than one shooter typically takes hours.
He declared such while the many resorts on the strip remained in lockdown.
It was an absurd and dangerous proclamation.
We all know that typically in these types of tragedies ruling in or out multiple people often relies on forensic examination of personal electronic items.
I am confident in saying that 4 hours in - while the room was still smoking that a comprehensive forensic had not been completed and relayed to him.
He then proceeded to outright lie a couple hours later , giving the world audience that his officers stopped the massacre by announcing that his men had engaged with the suspect. I remember thinking how does someone engage with a dead person?
It was instantly known that the body in the room was dead -- it was a deliberate and overt flat out not true (commonly known as a lie).
He then - for days- withheld any information regarding there being two eyewitnesses 15 feet from the door.
He did not disclose anything about JC for days - and then even after that did not disclose the maintenance guy for several more days.
Being a cop is tough - I do not feel it is unreasonable to anticipate that someone heading up the investigation ought to - first time out -be able to ascertain the time a massacre bagan.
He then attempted to mess with the intial concerns (accurate) about the 72 minute lad time . Go back and watch some of the early pressers. His efforts were clearly motivated to continue the public a false impression minimizing, what in fact is, a really long time to repond.
He has been the most unprofessional , crass,rude individual have ever watched during press conf. I was not inspired in terms of his intelligence to have to keep telling people to slow down when a question that had an "a" and "b".
Even tho the abovementioned had already happened and been filed away on this end he continued to be less and less professionial.
He began pouting about how frustrated he is. Children get frustrated when their Mac and Cheese is not hot - Sheriffs should not IMO be pouting publically.
If your dentist was verbalizing feelings of frustration while trying to extract a tooth - I would think questioning competency is valid .
I have never seen an individual in that role
blocking out a question by yelling over the reporter. He has been disrespectful to media throughout.
This is America. A public servant does not start to select who attends public press conferences. That kind of thing is done in N Korea and Russia - not in America
All behavior has meaning .At that point he began to lose control over what his lies were resulting in the final presser being a speech - not a presser.
For an elected office - a couple of weeks in - to just flat out declare he refuses to talk to the media any longer is not how it works -- unless of course there are things to hide.
There is a reason why a Sheriff needs someone with a invisible leash on him at all times.
The FBI guy resembles a stalker more than a team member. THere has to reasons for this.
Throughout he has not mentioned victims , made a visit to a hospital , laid a rose somewhere as far as we know.
For days he kept it secret that the primary eyewitness was out of the country.
His endless proclamations ( I was surprised at how often he kept saying this) regarding 200 (how did he know 200 did he count?) --he said 200 over and over.
That has to be a total lie, again. A room service cart , 8 feet away, with plates all lined up undisturbed with a tablecloth without a hole in it just has no ring of common sense or logic. A child would ask about the discrepancy. Another falsehood.
This might just be me but what is that cliche about lying one....twice... etc?
With that prelude out of the way--I find some body lying on a floor , after allegedly blowing their brains out having a little blood on his check somewhat concerning. Flat out makes no sense.
Pristine bullets around the bodies head look like they were sprinkled about all nice and tidy.
I have trouble aligning what is clearly a much older puddle of blood under the bright fresh red blood atop of the old blood stain. The amount of discolaration leads me to conclude that the stain was pretty old.
A rifle on his leg is placed. There is no reason to beleive that a rifle would end up like that on a body in free fall after a bullet in the back of the head.
According to those knowledgeable here shells being ejected from that type of weapon are red hot. The notion that he was standing behind the curtain firing 100's of red hot bullets/shell s that do not result in a massive fire or burn marks IMO defies simple logic.
Shoes Jeans without any burning evidence , from a person who is supposedly firing from behind a heavy curtain would have to land on his feet or legs. There is no scratch on his forearms- where are all these shells going behind the heavy curtain. Just illigocal. IMO
We are told to believe that a mass murderer planing on mauling 100's has his bullet magazines piled up in neat little piles away from the window - just does not fly for me.
I would think I would place magazines close to me. There were no magazines around at all.
The CBS interview guys clearly stated that the alarms in the room went off after they blew the door out. The only logical conclusion would be that they were not screaming prior to that. On his instructions over the airwaves no screaming fire alarms are heard.
The request that we believe that one person just fired off a couple of thousand bullets, in a closed space,within 11 minutes and fails to set off fire alarms again just absurd.
The invitation that we believe tempered glass windows in a modern skyscraper can be broken by what looks like a baby hammer is incredulous as well. It certainly looked placed to me sitting there all nice and stuff!
Throughout he never gave a status update on number of people in critical etc. He was never able to outline how many people were transported and to where.
Basic facts, IMO we ought not fall into this is an active investigation stuff. IEs. 52 people were transported to Joe Hospital does not impede an investigation.
There refusal to acknoelge or explain what is cleafly gunshot directly above the cab drivers car is also absurd. Echos don't get
louder. The first time I saw it I almost had heart attack they were so loud. (It was like a "boo")-
It is clearly a person firing a gun from above the valet at the MB . For those of you have teenagers who are not following this at all (there teenages they have seen movies!) play and ask them what they think. That was not an echo IMO.
There are reasons why many news broadcasts are called eyewitness news.
It appears many think much are CT. Videos that are posted on YT or wherever, right in the middle of an event have not been altered. They are being uploaded minutes later.
Folks who have just fled for there lives, are not at home but in a hotel room or standing in a street hoping not to get killed are not being edited.
IMO you can get nothing more factual that eyewitness cell phone video from any source. Its actually better than any MSM talking in the background.
It takes you there. That is not CT stuff - that is eyewitness news, on the scene!
It seems like there is this total notion that anything and everything on YT if faked. It defies logic to think that people are editing videos while fleeing for lives.
The instant adaptation of the tale being spun by an individual who has clearly presented himself as deceptive is very confusing for me.
This dept has a long and rich history of hideous corruption. Hideous. Criminal stuff -- if lay people did what some of the officers in this dept did they would be in the penitentiary.
The department under this guy is currently -- yes currently- under intense investigation by the FBI.
This guy has had problems with CCTV stuff from casinos -- mysteriously vanishing.
That needs to be repeated - this dude had a case against his one of his guys wherein the CCTV from a casino mysteriously vanished.\
He has actively interfered in the FBI investigation of his department.
He is elected.
His agenda to hide is more than obvious and ought to be concerning for anyone following this tragedy, imo
Respectfully, anyone, who , because it is on YT and therefore all falsified ,needs IMO, to view the 45 minute video (with no commentary-no voice overs saying it did not happen) with intense closeups of the crime scene where there is no indication that anything occurred higher up IMO, can only lead one to the conclusion that the location of the shooters (gravity dynamics) could not be from the 32 floor from thousands of feet away.
We are true crime folks. I was blown away when I saw FBI agents with paint rollers in there hand.
I went to Pulse several times. I never saw FBI agents repaving parking lots. Respectfully, how that does not end up in a what the heck is going on here is super confusing to me.
That is just bizarre to me.Seeing them turning their rollers upside down and pounding stuff into the ground did not hit me as looking for info. It looks like smushing bullet evidence into the ground and covering it over.
That is not investigating IMO. If i owned the area, and did not have the FBI repaving my parking lot for me -- money wise - I just would have bought new astro turf. Why do the bullets need to be pushed into the ground and paved over??
Just weird happenings my friends...........
Of course this happened...................just not the way we are being told imo.......
My perceptions today were not the same as they were in the beginning.
I am not a CT person. I can be chaotic at times (when manic) but surprisingly do have a streak of logic!!
AS time has passed more and more stupid YT stuff is being posted. Trust me , I am not watching that nonsense.
I am not a false flag kinda of man. That stuff is loo - loo!
I also have pondered if , with passage of time in this investigation , my intense personal experience with PUlse has made me more like aware of how crazy this investigation is
I am not a blind love LE . However that being said , our police chief and the FBI guy here were amazing, authentic, honest, and forthcoming. They were awesome.
This guy and department have been hideous - rude.
On the other hand however, I am not quite sure exactly how I would feel working with a guy (FBI guy) whose department is actively investigating me and my organization.
COrruption stuff:
Denison said he decided to create the film after his own case with Metro was swept under the rug. The long-time television editor with many credits to his name was on vacation in Las Vegas when he said he witnessed police brutality and called 911 to report it. Then he said the officers found out and started beating and arresting him as a form of retaliation.
"These officers were torturing this guy and laughing at him and having a good time doing it," Denison said. "One of them stomps on my head with a boot, which you can see in my mugshot ... It was awful. It was two minutes of not being able to breathe."
Denison said he filed an internal affairs complaint, but he couldn't prove that he was telling the truth because surveillance video in the area mysteriously disappeared the night of the arrest.
Knapp reported on Oct. 12 that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department headed by Clark County Sheriff, Joe Lombardo is trying to prevent testimony by current and former vice officers.
Metro Police, which previously said it was cooperating with the FBI’s investigation, is going to court to prevent the officers from answering questions under oath.
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-t...gainst-former-vice-detective-widens/678610564
http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/la...police-fbi-public-corruption-probe/2017/10/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misconduct_in_the_Las_Vegas_Metropolitan_Police_Department
http://lasvegastribune.net/corruption-drug-lvmpd-addicted/
http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/3593...y-officer-speaks-at-anti-metro-film-screening
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