I agree that is not unusual at all if it lines up that way. My statements at this moment are exclusively in response to the timeline here within kindly provided by kdj411. I havent revisited any further info regarding the time zones between SP and MD yet.
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I agree that is not unusual at all if it lines up that way. My statements at this moment are exclusively in response to the timeline here within kindly provided by kdj411. I havent revisited any further info regarding the time zones between SP and MD yet.
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https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/charges-being-investigated-in-las-vegas-shooting/
Metropolitan Police Department lawyers said Tuesday that criminal charges related to the Oct. 1 massacre may be coming in the next 60 days.
There are charges being investigated, Metro attorney Nicholas Crosby said during a court hearing in Las Vegas.
The hearing was being held to determine whether documents related to the shooting investigation should be unsealed. Metro attorneys argued that the documents should remain sealed because they may be used to support charges related to the investigation. They did not say who may face charges.
Metropolitan Police Department lawyers said Tuesday that criminal charges related to the Oct. 1 massacre may be coming in the next 60 days.
There are charges being investigated, Metro attorney Nicholas Crosby said during a court hearing in Las Vegas.
The hearing was being held to determine whether documents related to the shooting investigation should be unsealed. Metro attorneys argued that the documents should remain sealed because they may be used to support charges related to the investigation. They did not say who may face charges.
I mean I'm quoting the real-time discussion being had between us members of WS the night of the shooting. I am not sure what else I can provide to show that it lines up that way. But okay.
Let me see if I have this correct.
11:20 1st door is breached and 1 gunman down announced
12:27 2nd door is breached
12:30 MD sets her facebook to private
2:24 MD is announced as a person of interest by sheriff
2:46 MD deletes facebook account
3:30 Paddock is named as shooter
The timeline I saw yesterday stated door breached at 12:27 It didn't mention it was talking about the second door.
Still I don't see how MD went from not knowing anything, he was a nice caring person and I thought he was going to break up to setting her facebook to private within minutes (3) of the second breach.
At this point I don't think she was in the planning , but I think she knew something. She may have been in denial, but IMO at the very least she knew what he was capable of.
11:20 1st door is breached and 1 gunman down announced
12:27 2nd door is breached
12:30 MD sets her facebook to private
2:24 MD is announced as a person of interest by sheriff
2:46 MD deletes facebook account
3:30 Paddock is named as shooter
The timeline I saw yesterday stated door breached at 12:27 It didn't mention it was talking about the second door.
Still I don't see how MD went from not knowing anything, he was a nice caring person and I thought he was going to break up to setting her facebook to private within minutes (3) of the second breach.
At this point I don't think she was in the planning , but I think she knew something. She may have been in denial, but IMO at the very least she knew what he was capable of.
Her name was in the media at 12:30 AM, and she was being referred to as Marilou Danley, the shooter's companion and LE was looking for her. They didn't name her a POI until later, but her name was in the media as early as 12:33 AM, being associated with the shootings. So I am sure it's likely she was watching the coverage, heard her name, and set her facebook page to private.
Thank you. I see that now. I wish we knew when the first reports of her name were made on the Phillipean news.
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Hey Everyone,
I thought I posted this about 2 am this morning but maybe I didn't.
Sheriff Lombardo said in regards to Paddock's motive we need to forget and move on.
It is all in this 12 minute mini interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websle...radio-doug-poppa-comments-on-sheriff-lombardo
If I already posted this forgive me. I am losing my mind.
I thought I posted this about 2 am this morning but maybe I didn't.
Sheriff Lombardo said in regards to Paddock's motive we need to forget and move on.
It is all in this 12 minute mini interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websle...radio-doug-poppa-comments-on-sheriff-lombardo
If I already posted this forgive me. I am losing my mind.
You are misunderstanding my comments, you dont need to provide anything on my account. Im simply saying that I dont have the time at this moment to do my own revisiting in relation to this timeline regarding time zones. Its the first time I am seeing the correlated Philippine to Vegas time zone. Regardless and with all due respect for what any fellow WS post, I personally do my own research across the board. In this conversation I am not factoring in the Real-time discussion between us members of WS on the night of the shooting. This is a stand alone observation for myself, nothing cross checked. Im not in micro stage yet. I hope this clears that up for you.
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Stephen Paddock - "I'm not a gambler, I'm a "high roller"
interesting comment now that we have a better context
Thats fair. I personally found it way easier to go back and read the posts here for a timeline of names being released as opposed to news articles which tend to be updated multiple times, making the time stamp on the articles inaccurate in many cases. I was trying to be helpful but I understand you wanting to do your own research so you can draw your own conclusions.
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Quite the revelations these last few days IMO.
I don't have much to say right now because i am digging deep into the new info and going through lots of stuff we already knew. Trying to connect the dots.
But i will leave you all with this:
Evidence pointing towards SP being an Arms Dealer:
1) 4chan leak reportedly from a source inside LVMPD that SP was an arms dealer
2) On 60 minutes one of the officers said SP's room at MBay was set up like a gun store
3) In one of the interviews with Eric Paddock he almost blurted it out.... "Steve was an Arrrm..." decide for yourself -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE6iyqs4ZN4
4) Who else besides an arms dealer would need to travel and transport dozens of high powered and modified firearms, ammunition and explosive materials. A Lone Wolf shooter does not need to carry around an armoury like that. Too much risk to their mission. Common sense.
5) The newly released info with regards to the email exchanges between dummy accounts. Sounded like buying and selling to me.
6) In one of the warrants it flat out said Stephen Paddock was buying and selling firearms
I don't have much to say right now because i am digging deep into the new info and going through lots of stuff we already knew. Trying to connect the dots.
But i will leave you all with this:
Evidence pointing towards SP being an Arms Dealer:
1) 4chan leak reportedly from a source inside LVMPD that SP was an arms dealer
2) On 60 minutes one of the officers said SP's room at MBay was set up like a gun store
3) In one of the interviews with Eric Paddock he almost blurted it out.... "Steve was an Arrrm..." decide for yourself -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE6iyqs4ZN4
4) Who else besides an arms dealer would need to travel and transport dozens of high powered and modified firearms, ammunition and explosive materials. A Lone Wolf shooter does not need to carry around an armoury like that. Too much risk to their mission. Common sense.
5) The newly released info with regards to the email exchanges between dummy accounts. Sounded like buying and selling to me.
6) In one of the warrants it flat out said Stephen Paddock was buying and selling firearms
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It was I who suggested it was a debit card, not the NYT. Sorry if that is unclear from my post.. I am having some difficulties posting links and differentiating copy paste text from my own comments. On the contrary the NYT is excellent in its reportage.
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Sorry for being pedantic Cool-J but 4chan is notorious for instigating false trails and have no credibility at all.
Set up like a gunstore comment is not congruent with what just took place.. It could just as easily have been 'set up for a massacre'??
There exists evidence he was and had bought weapons but is there actually any evidence that he was selling too?
I am greatly appreciating your work and I dont mean to be contrary..okay?
If he wAS selling them, why would he have done it on the night he allegedly killed so many people? It's not congruent, if sP was actually the shooter?
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Police investigating charges against others in Las Vegas strip massacre, lawyer says - CNN
"Charges could be brought within 60 days, the lawyer, Nick Crosby, said in response to a question from Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/16/us/las-vegas-shooting-court-hearing/index.html
"Charges could be brought within 60 days, the lawyer, Nick Crosby, said in response to a question from Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/16/us/las-vegas-shooting-court-hearing/index.html
No, the article did as well. Recently Ive found the NYT to be sloppy with reporting small details that can cause confusion amongst readers, such as calling MDs mlife card a debit card of sorts. Or whatever they called it.
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I think this quote really summarizes how SP perceived himself and wanted to be perceived by others. In SP's little world, the title "High Roller" was the highest honor that could bestowed on a human.
SP's boastful numbers as proof of his "High Roller" status, however, seem exaggerated as one FBI source estimated his total net worth, not his gambling activity alone, averaged between 2-3 million dollars.
Casino employees have also testified that SP noticeably liked waited on and his brother admired that SP was fawned over by casino managers in his presence. Likewise, in his failed "slip and fall" (oldest law suit on the strip) lawsuit against a casino, SP even told the judge that he was a leading video poker High Roller.
With all of this, there is also some evidence to suggest that SP might have been gradually losing the ability to keep his little "whale" status at the casinos as he was no longer making real estate investments. SP could have been losing the only thing that gave his life any meaning (and even then, he was apparently only a junior member of the High Rollers club).
He then decides to go on a rampage as there was nothing to live for and also realization that even with all his efforts he was "only" a small "whale" in the casino universe?
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I believe he was going to say Army of one as he stopped himself and then stated I was about to use a colloquial term he thought better about the army comment after the manner of his brothers crime. MOO
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OK fair enough, maybe i should have put an emphasis on the last two points. I was trying to mimick the build up to the latest bit of info. I do not know if SP was an arms dealer or not. It just appears to me there is enough evidence that we should at least ask the question.
Like i said. Take nothing at face value in this case. I am just pointing out the oddities.
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It is odd for very many reasons. Realistically, how many guns would he have required for the massacre?
Quite a few less than he brought?
He must have known that.
BUT if he had planned on using assistants or co-conspirators, the quantity would have been reasonable?
If we could figure out how many shooters exactly would require that quantity of guns specifically for the massacre would we make some progress, I wonder?
What were his plans for the car laden with explosives?
that makes no sense at all .
I can see him carrying his suitcases into the hotel from the parking lot via service elevator without arising suspicion.. he had booked 2 rooms, it is possible he was expecting a guest or that the hotel believed he was expecting a guest, in which case 10 suitcases probably was not excessive..
Also wondering whether his parked car was within his line of sight from either of the 2 hotel rooms and it was his intention to cause it to explode?? speculation on my part.
I think he had an assistant if not more than one..
i do not know who killed him.
Or if he killed himself.
Or why.
Nor can I figure out why he stopped shooting, when he did, allegedly.
I am assuming that the forthcoming alleged charges are not to be made against MD because they released the information #spontaneously (!) that she told them her prints would be found on some bullets..
But I could be wrong about all of that.
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