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Thanks. There's some interesting possibilities; we almost need a flow chart:
1 - The partner didn't know SK wasn't going to show up for the 7pm appointment.
a. The partner, expecting to meet SK somewhere, didn't go to SS's home without SK. Never sounded an alert. Never tried to call.b. The partner hoped to meet SK at SS's home and went there without him, waiting. Never sounded an alert. Never tried to call.2. The partner DID know SK wasn't going to be at the apointment.
a. But didn't inform SS that no one was coming.b. Found someone else to go hometeach SS.c. So who WAS the partner? SA or GW? OR...did someone else know SK wasn't going to be in St George on Sunday? That person needs to speak up.3. Steven couldn't find a partner for Sunday evening, so just blew it off himself (out of frustration?)
4. It wasn't really a hometeaching appointment.
This is perfect. I just have to ask, is anyone else totally giddy over this new development?? I am so excited to have an new angle! I simply don't know how we didn't think of it before; there are always two home teachers. It just goes to show that we haven't thought of everything and there is still a possibility of getting some answers about Steven. Yay!
This is perfect. I just have to ask, is anyone else totally giddy over this new development?? I am so excited to have an new angle! I simply don't know how we didn't think of it before; there are always two home teachers. It just goes to show that we haven't thought of everything and there is still a possibility of getting some answers about Steven. Yay!
SO there is a chance that, like SS, Steven's home teaching partner may have assumed Steven wouldn't be available Sunday evening because he wasn't at church?! Damn!
It seems like a convoluted conclusion to draw though....just because someone's not at church, they are automatically out of commission for the entire day? TO me, an appointment is an appointment; I would assume Steven would be in attendance until he told me otherwise (regardless of his church attendance.) Why would people assume Steven would flake out unless he had a reputation for flaking? Did he?
Another thing that I know I brought up months ago. I think it's strange for SS to assume Steven was out of town UNLESS Steven regularly missed church because he was out of town. It's December, it's flu season. I would assume "Steven isn't feeling well." I wouldn't assume that an unemployed man, without the means to travel, who supposedly didn't travel regularly, was out travelling! Does that make sense?
ETA: One more thing. SS's response was rather "whatever" when Steven didn't show up. This suggests to me that it WAS a home teaching appointment, not another type of rendezvous.
Did he mention to her, either on Dec 6th or 7th, that he was going to be going out of town that week (ie, Ruby Valley) and when he didn't show up at church on Sunday, she thought he was STILL GONE?
If so, I believe she may have information that no one else has mentioned.
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That's his self-reported response to SK not being able to fill in for him, at the Sunday morning PEC planning meeting.
SO there is a chance that, like SS, Steven's home teaching partner may have assumed Steven wouldn't be available Sunday evening because he wasn't at church?! Damn!
It seems like a convoluted conclusion to draw though....just because someone's not at church, they are automatically out of commission for the entire day? TO me, an appointment is an appointment; I would assume Steven would be in attendance until he told me otherwise (regardless of his church attendance.) Why would people assume Steven would flake out unless he had a reputation for flaking? Did he?
Another thing that I know I brought up months ago. I think it's strange for SS to assume Steven was out of town UNLESS Steven regularly missed church because he was out of town. It's December, it's flu season. I would assume "Steven isn't feeling well." I wouldn't assume that an unemployed man, without the means to travel, who supposedly didn't travel regularly, was out travelling! Does that make sense?
ETA: One more thing. SS's response was rather "whatever" when Steven didn't show up. This suggests to me that it WAS a home teaching appointment, not another type of rendezvous.
He did tell others later in the week he was going to Sacramento....
I think you're thinking of SA. I meant SS.....wouldn't she have been concerned when Steven didn't show up if the "home teaching appointment" was something else? Sorry, I'm thinking that we were thinking something romantic was going on between SK and SS. Were you thinking something else?
seekingsusan said:Another thing that I know I brought up months ago. I think it's strange for SS to assume Steven was out of town UNLESS Steven regularly missed church because he was out of town. It's December, it's flu season. I would assume "Steven isn't feeling well." I wouldn't assume that an unemployed man, without the means to travel, who supposedly didn't travel regularly, was out travelling! Does that make sense?
I thought this from the beginning -- not that there was anything strange about the appointment per se, but that it strongly indicated that the Ruby Valley and other trips were not the first. If he's been driving all over the countryside all fall, it makes me think that whatever happened in Henderson is much more likely to be accidental or random.
It's not perfect, though. I just re-read SS's FB comment. WS TOS says we can't quote social networking sites here, so I put it on a new page on the timeline (HomeTeachingAppointment).
1 - The partner didn't know SK wasn't going to show up for the 7pm appointment.
a. The partner, expecting to meet SK somewhere, didn't go to SS's home without SK. Never sounded an alert. Never tried to call.
b. The partner hoped to meet SK at SS's home and went there without him, waiting. Never sounded an alert. Never tried to call.2. The partner DID know SK wasn't going to be at the apointment.
appointment.
a. But didn't inform SS that no one was coming.
appointment.
b. Found someone else to go hometeach SS.
appointment.
c. So who WAS the partner? SA or GW? OR...did someone else know SK wasn't going to be in St George on Sunday? That person needs to speak up.3. Steven couldn't find a partner for Sunday evening, so just blew it off himself (out of frustration?)
4. Because Steven didn't "confirm" the appointment that Sunday morning, SS figured the appointment was "off".
5. Did Steven's partner even know about the appointment?
6. Were there any other home teaching appointments scheduled, that a partner should have known about?
7. It wasn't really a hometeaching appointment.
These are questions that need to be asked and answered! There is a reason SS assumed Steven was "out of town." Maybe it doesn't seem important to whoever knows the answers, but it is!
....and we've got a great secret agent on the case.
SO there is a chance that, like SS, Steven's home teaching partner may have assumed Steven wouldn't be available Sunday evening because he wasn't at church?! Damn!
It seems like a convoluted conclusion to draw though....just because someone's not at church, they are automatically out of commission for the entire day? TO me, an appointment is an appointment; I would assume Steven would be in attendance until he told me otherwise (regardless of his church attendance.) Why would people assume Steven would flake out unless he had a reputation for flaking? Did he?
Another thing that I know I brought up months ago. I think it's strange for SS to assume Steven was out of town UNLESS Steven regularly missed church because he was out of town. It's December, it's flu season. I would assume "Steven isn't feeling well." I wouldn't assume that an unemployed man, without the means to travel, who supposedly didn't travel regularly, was out travelling! Does that make sense?
ETA: One more thing. SS's response was rather "whatever" when Steven didn't show up. This suggests to me that it WAS a home teaching appointment, not another type of rendezvous.
My cards were removed from the community information area at the entrance to the local Henderson library. I was so upset when I saw this today that I couldn't have asked the librarians in a mature manner, so I didn't ask.
Oh, but there was a general computer generated flier for signing up for the local Henderson car show coming up. grrrrr
An aha moment regarding the home teaching visits!!! Thank you so much to everyone who responded to my inquiry regarding home teaching.
Also, I'm not sure I can post this here, but anyone else notice that on GW's Facebook he has a number of lady friends who work in casinos, and not as dealers or cage clerks. What on earth is he doing in his spare time? IMO he's doing what any other non LDS single man would be doing in Las Vegas...going to bars, and gambling.