NY - $250m fraud against Former President Donald Trump, Trump Org., Eric, Donald Jr., Sept 2022, Trial 2 Oct 2023

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After hyping some of his other assets, Trump shifted his attention back to his Financial District skyscraper. “If I wanted to sell 40 Wall Street, I’d get $750 [million] for it tomorrow,” he said, going with a figure $15 million higher than the $735 million allegedly listed on his personal balance sheet and $210 million higher than the $540 million that Cushman & Wakefield determined in its already questionable appraisal.

A Forbes reporter noted that the building was 1.2 million square feet, rounding up from its actual square footage of 1,165,207. “It’s actually 1.3,” Trump said. “By the way, it’s 1.3, to be honest with you.” The same reporter then said Forbes was estimating its net operating income at $24 million, the inflated figure that “Jeff”—apparently McConney—had shared the previous year.

“Where did you get that from? We’re going to make $64 million net, net after debt service this year—at least,” Trump declared, sensing an opportunity to boost the $24 million figure as well as the $50 million one offered just minutes earlier. Lending and tax documents suggest the true amount Trump earned from the building that year, after debt service, was around $1 million.

“You still do have the $160 million mortgage?” the reporter asked.

“Yeah, we have the mortgage,” Trump conceded. “The mortgage is paying, what, 2.5%?” he said, again turning to Weisselberg.

“Yeah, that’s what we get,” Weisselberg responded. The interest rate was actually 3.665%, according to bond reports and financial disclosures. Trump then returned to its profitability, using an even higher number. “That building’s going to make close to $70 million this year,” he said, again adding millions in minutes. “Remember, it’s 1.3 million square feet.”

“These are the kinds of things that it’s great to go through,” said a different reporter.

“But the point is you’re so far off,” Trump countered, adding, “You’re going to look bad. And look, all I can say is Forbes is a bankrupt magazine that doesn’t know what they’re talking about, okay? That’s all I’m going to say. Because it’s embarrassing to me.”
 
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NY court security stepped up amid decision finding Donald Trump liable for fraud: "Court officers have been on a heightened state of readiness and officers have been cautioned to remain alert and vigilant both inside courthouses and while on perimeter patrols," spox says.
 
So - this final pretrial hearing today - any news on that? And Bench trial still starts on Monday, 10/2?


Trump's businesses "own physical assets like Trump Tower, like 40 Wall Street. Is the court under the impression those assets are to be sold or are they just to be managed under the monitor?" Kise asked.

"I'm not prepared to issue a ruling right now," Engoron responded.

Wednesday's hearing was to discuss matters before a trial set for Oct. 2. In court, Kise, who had called Engoron's decision "completely disconnected from the facts and governing law," complimented the judge as "extremely intelligent."

Both sides agreed to temporarily withdraw their motions to limit certain evidence and testimony, and to consider them as the trial progresses. Engoron also granted a defense request to have 30 days rather than 10 to recommend receivers.

A state appeals court is expected to rule this week on Trump's bid to delay the trial.

Trump had sued Engoron this month, accusing him of ignoring a June appeals court ruling that according to Trump required gutting James' case because many of her claims were too old.

 

Early on Wednesday morning, Trump's rage began with rants and elaborate claims.

"I have a Deranged, Trump Hating Judge, who RAILROADED this FAKE CASE through a NYS Court at a speed never seen before, refusing to let it go to the Commercial Division, where it belongs, denying me everything, No Trial, No Jury. He made up this crazy 'KILL TRUMP' decision, assigning insanely low values to properties, despite overwhelming evidence..."

He didn't mention that the reason there is no jury is that his own team did not request one.

Now Trump is alleging the judge is a "political hack judge."

"I have had very unfair judges since entering politics, but nobody has been as unhinged as this guy," Trump claims.

"Donald Trump's lawyers screwed up again," trial lawyer Michael Popok said when talking about the development. "His then-lawyer Alina Habba screwed up the procedures in New York, didn't file the appropriate paper on time, and therefore, Donald Trump was properly denied a jury trial."
 
when I see all the random and unnecessary (and grammatically incorrect) CAPITALIZED letters in his posts, I think of so many MLM posts who use RaNdOm oDd CaPiTaLization. I want our politicians to be educated, is that too much to ask? Why is Deranged and Hating capitalized? Why Don? It does not add emphasis.
 

I’m just about drooling, watching this finally all come together.

At long last, a paper trail that he couldn’t shred or flush away.

The Stones’ song “Beast of Burden” comes to mind…Trump desperately singing to Melania “Am I rich enough?”

But I do have to admit that an evaluation of $18 million for Mar-A-Lago seems very low to me, in real life, not just in Trump’s mind. I‘m a New Yorker, there are apartments and co-ops here that go for much more. Despite that property being in Florida, it is Palm Beach, very notably one of the Richie Rich towns.

JMO


Excerpt from the Palm Beach Post which says Forbes valued the property at $160,000,000 in 2018, which IMO seems more likely than the $18 million or the Trumps’ assertion that it‘s worth one billion.
 
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I’m just about drooling, watching this finally all come together.

At long last, a paper trail that he couldn’t shred or flush away.

The Stones song “Beast of Burden” comes to mind…Trump desperately singing to Melania “Am I rich enough?”

But I do have to admit that an evaluation of $18 million for Mar-A-Lago seems very low to me, in real life, not just in Trump’s mind. I‘m a New Yorker, there are apartments and co-ops here that go for much more. Despite that property being in Florida, it is Palm Beach, very notably one of the Richie Rich towns.

JMO
Trump doesn't submit real numbers. The property "could be" worth $X but a "buyer might pay more" and it's "the best property" and "worth more than appraised."

Well.....what is the NUMBER? He thinks describing MAL as wonderful is good enough accounting. Then, when presented with an appraised number (which does seem low), he cries about it.

Well, what's the actual number? He can't provide it, perhaps because he's reported so many different versions that providing just one number will incriminate him for fraud.

(I'm aware that value is whatever a buyer will pay....but business statements and legal actions require actual numbers.)

jmo
 

I’m just about drooling, watching this finally all come together.

At long last, a paper trail that he couldn’t shred or flush away.

The Stones song “Beast of Burden” comes to mind…Trump desperately singing to Melania “Am I rich enough?”

But I do have to admit that an evaluation of $18 million for Mar-A-Lago seems very low to me, in real life, not just in Trump’s mind. I‘m a New Yorker, there are apartments and co-ops here that go for much more. Despite that property being in Florida, it is Palm Beach, very notably one of the Richie Rich towns.

JMO


Excerpt from the Palm Beach Post which says Forbes valued the propery at $160,000,000 in 2018, which IMO seems more likely than the $18 million or the Trumps’ assertion that it‘s worth one billion.
That 18 million was the Palm Beach County Assessor's value that was quoted.

Interesting.

What's in an address they say? Only what people are willing to pay for them.
 

According to a 2023 market appraisal report by the city of Palm Beach, the total value of the property is $37 million, an increase of $6 million from last year and nearly $10 million more than the appraised value Engoron cited in his ruling this week.

Earlier this year, Forbes estimated the property is worth a more generous $325 million, after reviewing its financial history and consulting eight real estate experts.

But Trump and other defendants in a civil fraud case brought by New York’s Attorney General claim the property is worth more than $1.5 billion, according to an affidavit from attorney Lawrence Moens, who called Mar-A-Lago an “exclusive and extensive family compound in the most desirable sections of Palm Beach,” saying he is “confident” he could find a potential buyer “in short order.”

Trump’s financial documents also pegged the value of the estate at between $427 million and $612 million, which Engoron called “an overvaluation of at least 2,300%” compared to the assessor’s report.
 
when I see all the random and unnecessary (and grammatically incorrect) CAPITALIZED letters in his posts, I think of so many MLM posts who use RaNdOm oDd CaPiTaLization. I want our politicians to be educated, is that too much to ask? Why is Deranged and Hating capitalized? Why Don? It does not add emphasis.
Whenever I read his rants, I yell the capitalized words in my head and it makes it that much funnier.
 

"Certain of the entities, entities that own physical assets like Trump Tower and 40 Wall – is the court under the impression that those are to be sold or are they to be managed under the monitor?" Trump attorney Chris Kise asked Engoron.

It was at this point the judge said he was not yet prepared to make a ruling.

"Which entities are covered here?" Kise pressed. 'You have New York entities that just own a house or a townhouse. Maybe Don Jr. 's or Eric's residence… are those covered?" Kise asked.

"At least under a technical reading of the order, those entities should be surrendering their GBL 130s" – legalese for corporate licenses – "even though they have no connection to this," Kise said.

Again there was no specific guidance from Engoron.

"I try to be very accessible and work things out," the judge said, speaking generally. "I'd be happy to sit down with Judge Jones when she is available," he added of Trump Org's potential receiver-in-waiting.

The state has alleged fraud involving two of Trump's residences, at Trump Tower and Mar-a-Lago.

Trump owns and sporadically lives in the triplex penthouse atop Trump Tower.
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I am so tired of this man dominating EVERYTHING. You can't go to any news site, social media site, heck, nearly anywhere on the internet, without having to hear about him. He has possessed our collective minds for over 8 years.
 
He’s still ranting:


In a caps-heavy rant, Trump raged once again about New York Judge Arthur Engoron valuing Mar-a-Lago at just $18 million.

"WE NEED JUSTICE IN OUR COUNTRY!" he raged.

In fact, the court put the value between $18 million and $27.4 million. Trump is likely having the property devalued by it being a public space rather than a private home.

"This political hack judge, who values, Mar-a-Lago, the most spectacular parcel of real estate in Palm Beach, and perhaps all of Florida, at $18 million in order to reduce valuations on my financial statements, which are, in fact, lower than my actual net worth, must be stopped," said Trump.

"I have had very unfair judges since entering politics, but nobody has been as unhinged as this guy," said Trump on Truth Social. "Mar-a-Lago is worth, perhaps, 100 times more than he values it. Other properties are likewise worth substantially more. I am worth billions more than my very conservatively stated financial statements, and therefore could not have defrauded the banks, who all made money & were all paid back, or are current, with no defaults or any other problem. Additionally, there is a powerful Disclaimer Clause on the first pages of the Financial Statements. It states that nothing in the Financial Statements should be accepted as fact!"

Trump had the opportunity to fight the case in court, but instead agreed to a "summary judgment," which means Trump's own lawyers handed the case over to the judge he said was "unhinged."
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I am so tired of this man dominating EVERYTHING. You can't go to any news site, social media site, heck, nearly anywhere on the internet, without having to hear about him. He has possessed our collective minds for over 8 years.
If he wasn't running for office, I would completely ignore him and I bet most people would. But enough people support his candidacy and because of that, he's in the news and relevant.

jmo
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I am so tired of this man dominating EVERYTHING. You can't go to any news site, social media site, heck, nearly anywhere on the internet, without having to hear about him. He has possessed our collective minds for over 8 years.

Yeah, 90% of the news seems to be about Donald Trump or Taylor Swift.

With some “minor” news thrown in, like the government might shut down. :(

IMO
 
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He’s still ranting:


In a caps-heavy rant, Trump raged once again about New York Judge Arthur Engoron valuing Mar-a-Lago at just $18 million.

"WE NEED JUSTICE IN OUR COUNTRY!" he raged.

In fact, the court put the value between $18 million and $27.4 million. Trump is likely having the property devalued by it being a public space rather than a private home.

"This political hack judge, who values, Mar-a-Lago, the most spectacular parcel of real estate in Palm Beach, and perhaps all of Florida, at $18 million in order to reduce valuations on my financial statements, which are, in fact, lower than my actual net worth, must be stopped," said Trump.

"I have had very unfair judges since entering politics, but nobody has been as unhinged as this guy," said Trump on Truth Social. "Mar-a-Lago is worth, perhaps, 100 times more than he values it. Other properties are likewise worth substantially more. I am worth billions more than my very conservatively stated financial statements, and therefore could not have defrauded the banks, who all made money & were all paid back, or are current, with no defaults or any other problem. Additionally, there is a powerful Disclaimer Clause on the first pages of the Financial Statements. It states that nothing in the Financial Statements should be accepted as fact!"

Trump had the opportunity to fight the case in court, but instead agreed to a "summary judgment," which means Trump's own lawyers handed the case over to the judge he said was "unhinged."
He doesn’t even care that he’s being accused of fraud, lol. To him the entire offense is that people might think he’s not as rich as he says he is. Ridiculous man.
 
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