Match! NY - Caledonia, WhtFem 1UFNY, 13-19, Turquoise Necklace, Nov'79 *Tammy Alexander*

[CarlK90245]

I am wondering where you are finding the yearbooks are they online? Also, I am wondering if these yearbooks, if they are online only shows seniors or everyone?

Classmates.com has a collection of over 50,000 high school yearbooks available to paid members, and they are constantly adding more. Different schools have different grade-levels. Most are grades 9-12, but I've seen some that go pre-school through 12.

Do they have middle school yearbooks online too? She could be around middle school age.

They don't have middle school yearbooks, and they only have books for 1988 and prior.

I was thinking about social service organizations, she might be a foster kid or even orphanages. Idk how prominent those were in the late 70's.

I am thinking that many of these teenaged UID's are probably from the Child Protective Services (CPS) system, or foster care. I heard on the news recently that the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors is under court order to provide data on children who have died while in the CPS system, and they have not complied with the court order. I was thinking of writing someone an e-mail to someone suggesting that while they are at it, they should include data for children who are missing from the CPS system as well.

Also, with DNA testing is it pretty easy to detect nationality. Like if they were native american, hispanic, or even within white nationalities like Russian or Swedish?

They can detect race through DNA, but it is expressed in terms of probabilities of being of one race or another. I don't know if they can get specific as to national origin.

 

[CarlK90245]

After looking through 65 San Diego area HS yearbooks from 77, 78, and 79 and finding nothing, I came across this girl.

YMcV
1978 Granite Hills HS (El Cajon CA) Yearbook - 11th Grade.

Her senior photo is not in the 1979 book. She isn't listed in the Classmates.com alumni listing for that grade. She doesn't have a Facebook page. A check in Veromi.net yields 23 matches on that name, but none are listed as 50 years old (i.e., the age that YMcV would be now). One person is listed from North Carolina with the same maiden name and is currently listed as 51 years old. I don't think it's the same person though.

 

[Reannan]

After looking through 65 San Diego area HS yearbooks from 77, 78, and 79 and finding nothing, I came across this girl.

YMcV
1978 Granite Hills HS (El Cajon CA) Yearbook - 11th Grade.

Her senior photo is not in the 1979 book. She isn't listed in the Classmates.com alumni listing for that grade. She doesn't have a Facebook page. A check in Veromi.net yields 23 matches on that name, but none are listed as 50 years old (i.e., the age that YMcV would be now). One person is listed from North Carolina with the same maiden name and is currently listed as 51 years old. I don't think it's the same person though.

Remarkable resemblance CarlK! There is something about the chin and mouth on both that is very, very, similar! Have you called it in???

 

[CarlK90245]

Remarkable resemblance CarlK! There is something about the chin and mouth on both that is very, very, similar! Have you called it in???

Not yet. I'm busy trying to find any indication that she is still around somewhere. So far, nothing.

 

[annemc2]

Looks very promising, Carl! A lot of the features are spot-on. Big props to you for sifting through those yearbooks. The patience and attention to detail that you have are amazing.

I might have some new (well, to us, anyway) information coming in soon. Will keep you guys posted.

 

[webrocket]

Carl, do you have a middle initial for YMcV?

if it is P, then I think she is alive and married in Texas, per records from Ancestry.com.

 

[CarlK90245]

Carl, do you have a middle initial for YMcV?

if it is P, then I think she is alive and married in Texas, per records from Ancestry.com.

No, I don't have a middle initial, but please PM me with what you have.

 

[CarlK90245]

Carl, do you have a middle initial for YMcV?

if it is P, then I think she is alive and married in Texas, per records from Ancestry.com.

No, I don't have a middle initial, but please PM me with what you have.

Just an update for everyone else on this thread. The Y.P. McV that webrocket found was the wrong first name, and incorrect spelling of the last name. But when I gave him the correct name, he found a birth record for a Y. M. McV with a Feb 1961 birthdate and a San Diego County birthplace. We have a mother's maiden name too.

This birth record is probably for the girl in the yearbook, but we still don't have anything to show that she was alive past 1979.

If anyone else wants this info, PM me and I will provide it to you.

ETA: I left a message with El Cajon PD to see if there is a Missing Person file on her. I probably won't hear from them at least until Monday though.

 

[CarlK90245]

I just noticed something on the Google Earth Street View of the location where Cali was found. At 0.7 miles west of Hwy 20 / Hwy 5 intersection on the south side of the street, there is an "XOX" marked on the side of the road. I wonder if this marks the exact location where she was found. The description indicates "20 feet off the south side of Route 20, about 1/2 mile from the Route 5 intersection". But it probably isn't exactly 1/2 mile.

US-20 W/Telephone Rd to US-20 W/Telephone Rd - Google Maps

BTW, the highway appears much flatter than it did in 1979. The crime scene photos show a slight incline (like a bridge over a cross-street or creek) as the highway veered toward the northwest.

 

[CarlK90245]

After looking through 65 San Diego area HS yearbooks from 77, 78, and 79 and finding nothing, I came across this girl.

YMcV
1978 Granite Hills HS (El Cajon CA) Yearbook - 11th Grade.

Her senior photo is not in the 1979 book. She isn't listed in the Classmates.com alumni listing for that grade. She doesn't have a Facebook page. A check in Veromi.net yields 23 matches on that name, but none are listed as 50 years old (i.e., the age that YMcV would be now). One person is listed from North Carolina with the same maiden name and is currently listed as 51 years old. I don't think it's the same person though.

With the help of annemc2 and webrocket, we searched through the online sources to try to find any record of YM McV's existence.

Very interestingly, although we have found substantial information on her three brothers, and one sister, and her neices and nephews, we can find nothing that would account for her existence after 1979.

I have sent a facebook private message to one of her brothers, so hopefully he will respond and settle this possible match one way or the other.

 

[CarlK90245]

I spoke with Major Matthew Burgess this morning, and e-mailed to him a side-by-side of YM McV's photo with the postmortem photo. He is now the detective assigned to this case, and James Szczesniak has been promoted to Undersheriff.

I explained that YM McV is not listed on the publicly available MP sites, and I have no indication that she is listed as a missing person. However, I told him that with the help of other members of this forum, we searched extensively for any indication of her existence after 1979, and although we found plenty of info on her three brothers and her nephews and nieces, and a few other persons with the same surname from El Cajon (perhaps cousins or aunts), we found nothing on her that postdates 1979.

I also pointed out that she has an unusual lump under her right eyebrow, that seems to match a similar lump seen in Cali's postmortem photo (which I thought was swelling due to the gunshot wound, but am now thinking might have existed prior to the gunshot). He sounded skeptical, and said that due to the doctoring of the photo over the years, some things appear to be there that weren't actually there. He also indicated that the gunshot wound was over her right eye, so the swelling under her eyebrow is probably related to the injury. (I'm still not clear on exactly where the gunshot wound was, as there is significant photoshopping between her right eye and the bridge of her nose, and between her eyebrows)

He said that he would check with NCIC to see if she is listed, and he will look into seeing what he can find on her from other sources. I also told him that I sent a FB message to her brother, and I will let him know if I hear from him.

 

[Cubby]

I'm just seeing the most recent posts on this thread now. Has anyone checked to see if YM McV is listed in the SSDI? Or an obit search?

Also found the link for the NY state site with the original? postmortem and facial recon.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES AT LINK:
http://troopers.ny.gov/Wanted_and_M...w.cfm?ID=1f2bd5b1-5c39-47e1-90ef-7b324db2c833


I do see strong similiarites between YM McV and our UID.

 

[webrocket]

I'm just seeing the most recent posts on this thread now. Has anyone checked to see if YM McV is listed in the SSDI? Or an obit search?

Also found the link for the NY state site with the original? postmortem and facial recon.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES AT LINK:
http://troopers.ny.gov/Wanted_and_M...w.cfm?ID=1f2bd5b1-5c39-47e1-90ef-7b324db2c833


I do see strong similiarites between YM McV and our UID.

there is zip, zero, nada for YMMcV other than a birth record.

looking at the link, the deceased looks very young an Y McV would have been about 18 at the time of the death.

 

[Cubby]

Thank you Webrocket. I'm not sure if you, or others were aware a first name only search can be done at veromi.net with a full date of birth, mo/date/year. That is another option to get a list of persons with that first name and dob... especially if current married name is unknown.

 

[CarlK90245]

Cubby pulled through again. Searching in Veromi.net by First Name, Middle Initial and DOB (and excluding the surname), she located a women who works at a bookstore in Ohio.

I contacted her by telephone, and she is the same YMcV who attended Granite Hills HS in 1978.

Cali is not YMcV.

 

[annemc2]

Awww, man! I was sure you had nailed this one, CarlK! Bummer. Well, here we go again. I'll get back to studying that pollen info, I guess. I thought maybe I wouldn't have to! :crazy:

 

[webrocket]

Thank you Webrocket. I'm not sure if you, or others were aware a first name only search can be done at veromi.net with a full date of birth, mo/date/year. That is another option to get a list of persons with that first name and dob... especially if current married name is unknown.

I do not use Veromi but I guess I should add it to my resources now!

 

[Deeds]

As far as i can tell no one has put Melinda Creech forward as Caledonia Jane Doe everything seem pretty close... other then the eye colour

Melinda Karen Creech
Missing since September 5, 1979 from Anderson, Madison County, Indiana.
Classification: Endangered Runaway

Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 21, 1965; 9/21/64 in NCIC
Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3" (160 cm); 110 lbs (50 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Light blonde hair; blue eyes. Possibly wavy hair.
Scars, Marks: Previously fractured left arm
Dentals: Available
DNA: In CODIS
AKA: Mindy

Circumstances of Disappearance
Melinda Creech ran away from home several times. When she ran away from home in 1979 she was never seen again.

Her siblings were led to believe, by their mother, that Melinda had been found dead in New York. This was untrue according to documents found after the mothers death. Creech may use a different last name.

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1297dfin.html

 

[sam spade]

WOW! As soon as I scrolled...I thought it was her!

 

[ezio_mctavish]

So close! I haven't been on the site in a couple of days and when I saw that girl in the yearbook might be Cali I was scrolling down. In anticipation that we may have finally found her.

Anyways, the yearbook got me thinking I have a professor that I did research for who studied robotics and machine vision. I am thinking about working on a facial recognition program that be able to scan photos and yearbooks to find possible matches. See if my professor could help me out.