I wonder if all of the children were homebirths and they never got birth certificates? That would explain the need for all of those DNA tests when they were removed from the home.
GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation
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I saw that the DA issued new Orders of Protection forbidding Venuska and the other family members from being within a half mile of the Children's Home where the kids are. Curious. There's also many more mentions about the "lewd" photos - they can't seem to let that go. She also doesn't understand why DSS doesn't want her to send her special food to the kids.
And the promise to expose the enemies at some vague time in the future with copious video, witnesses and documents is wearing thin IMO and starting to feel like they'll finally get around to it from behind bars. Why do they procrastinate? All that has done so far is allow the DA to bring more charges. For Pete's sake, if they or their attorney would only present their smoking gun evidence they could very well have the kids back in short order. MOO.
This is only my own personal observation and opinion: The list of perceived transgressions seems to grow longer and longer with new (and sometimes bizarre) offenses added with each post. I can't help but be reminded of songs like The Twelve Days of Christmas or Old MacDonald, where a new part is added to previous verses. It also IMO confirms some of what @Lilibet wrote in her post on Wound Collectors.
No more visitation with the children either. Which doesn't surprise me.
Just making assumptions, I don't actually know for sure, but it seems like the reasons from Venuska's children second removal were the fact that it was ordered that either Heidi and Steven would have to leave the home, or Venuska and her children would have to leave the home and, to my knowledge that did not happen; the lewd pictures of the children that were found at the home and, ultimately the manslaughter charges.
I don't quite understand why they keep trying to connect the lewd pictures to the manslaughter charges, I don't thing that has nothing to do with it. And the searches on one of the sisters' phone may have not been about Evanna, but it certainly proves (as do their posts) that they had an habit of Google searching medical conditions the family may have been dealing with, and it appears they failed to even Google search Evanna's symptoms.
Cute video of the baby dancing though.
Just making assumptions, I don't actually know for sure, but it seems like the reasons from Venuska's children second removal were the fact that it was ordered that either Heidi and Steven would have to leave the home, or Venuska and her children would have to leave the home and, to my knowledge that did not happen; the lewd pictures of the children that were found at the home and, ultimately the manslaughter charges.
I don't quite understand why they keep trying to connect the lewd pictures to the manslaughter charges, I don't thing that has nothing to do with it. And the searches on one of the sisters' phone may have not been about Evanna, but it certainly proves (as do their posts) that they had an habit of Google searching medical conditions the family may have been dealing with, and it appears they failed to even Google search Evanna's symptoms.
Cute video of the baby dancing though.
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Since the adult siblings have been named as...well, I don't know what they've been named as...suspects? POI? Are they sleuthable??
Someone in the family runs more than one social media account, all about the family's macrobiotic lifestyle, which adds additional context to their way of life, and has some curiosities IMO. I've found some other interesting connections as well, that may remain unsleuthable at this time.
As other users have nearly alluded to this point....a timeline?? That might help give a clear picture of what happened and when the facts and narrative changed.
Rest in peace Evanna, we won't forget you.
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Someone in the family runs more than one social media account, all about the family's macrobiotic lifestyle, which adds additional context to their way of life, and has some curiosities IMO. I've found some other interesting connections as well, that may remain unsleuthable at this time.
As other users have nearly alluded to this point....a timeline?? That might help give a clear picture of what happened and when the facts and narrative changed.
Rest in peace Evanna, we won't forget you.
MOO.
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IMO despite their boasts of being superior in... well just about everything... the family/Venuska fails to understand the purpose of DSS barring Heidi and Steve from being around the returned children.
The family accused DSS of trying to fracture the family. The reality is that the children were returned to a home where the grandparents are facing manslaughter charges directly related to the death of a 12-year-old. DSS would be legally remiss to allow them access to other children while awaiting trial.
It hasn't been clearly stated in msm why the kids were removed again but IMO it's likely that it stemmed from the family's refusal to find other housing either for Venuska and her kids or for Heidi and Steve. IIRC the family mentioned something about the court determining imminent harm to the kids.
Just because it's unlikely Steve and Heidi would harm Venuska's kids it doesn't mean that DSS can ignore the situation. It has nothing to do with fracturing the family or turning members against each other. MOO.
I believe they are sleuthable because they were all charged with manslaughter in Evanna's case.
You are right, They aren’t Sovereign Nation, nor Preppers at all. There is an old post w that Van for sale elsewhere on FB. @Lilibet mentioned wound collecting; possible but likely the father has a strange abuse type history of control over the family IMO (NONE of the other adults chose to get medical care rather waiting on the fathers okay)
They disregarded the fact that she needed urgent medical care IMO. but it isn’t an opinion that they stated in their posts that they knew she needed to go to the hospital but decided to wait until the next day to call a friend to come take them. That IMO is the crime. All else is nonsense IMO. I do not believe for a minute they intended or made plans to take her the next day to the hospital IMO based off the fact that they stated The mother Heidi interviewed w the police while in a sheer nightgown...means they weren’t packed up to go anywhere. They should have kept their mouths shut instead of lying then could have claimed ignorance of her urgent medical needs. There is ZERO corruption when a child ends up needing life-support/death under the care of SEVERAL adults....in is a mandatory investigation. MOO the other adults will accept reckless endangerment or some other charge. The parents found guilty & parental rights may be terminated-they should work w the other relatives for the children’s sake down the road. The lewd photos probably will be evidence of other ways the additional adults intentionally ignored issues that could constitute child abuse/neglect/supervision- just guessing. (similar case about waiting to take the child to the hospital resulted in 17 years for one parent- total parental rights terminated for both parents).-just saying
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Exactly. Here's a new legal term for the family: Res ipsa loquitur which in law means "the thing speaks for itself." 7 adults in the house saw Evanna's swollen legs and abdomen and not one thought to seek immediate help for her. Instead they delayed calling 911 ostensibly because Evanna wanted to ride to the doctor in a car. Or because they didn't think it was serious. Or because it was snowing. Take your pick.
The end result is that Evanna died. Things couldn't be any clearer. MOO.
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Even when someone is just named as a suspect without being charged they can be sleuthed. So yes, all of them can be sleuthed.
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The video they have up of the 3 y/o accusing someone named Carey slapping him is pretty despicable IMO.
Anyone who has ever spoken to a child (who according to them turned 3 today) would listen to the leading questions the adults are heard to ask “did they slap you” and then when the poor child hesitates “how many times did they slap you”, “was it a lot?”... and hear adults manipulating a child. MOO
I find it to be so sad, and the fact that they never treated the hydrocephalus IMO is just horrible. How could you look at a child like that and martyr him for your own beliefs. I understand that people have a right to their own belief systems but to with hold medical miracles like vaccination that brought society out of the third world and surgery that allowed children to live normal lives is just massaging your own (likely vaccinated) ego.
when I read that they were again irate that DSS was moving forward with treatment for they hydrocephalus I was relieved.
in regard to the lewd photos, in a recent post they were already accusing DSS of having planted them or altering pre-existing photos. One would imagine they already know what’s there and are trying to plant seeds of doubt.
Anyone who has ever spoken to a child (who according to them turned 3 today) would listen to the leading questions the adults are heard to ask “did they slap you” and then when the poor child hesitates “how many times did they slap you”, “was it a lot?”... and hear adults manipulating a child. MOO
I find it to be so sad, and the fact that they never treated the hydrocephalus IMO is just horrible. How could you look at a child like that and martyr him for your own beliefs. I understand that people have a right to their own belief systems but to with hold medical miracles like vaccination that brought society out of the third world and surgery that allowed children to live normal lives is just massaging your own (likely vaccinated) ego.
when I read that they were again irate that DSS was moving forward with treatment for they hydrocephalus I was relieved.
in regard to the lewd photos, in a recent post they were already accusing DSS of having planted them or altering pre-existing photos. One would imagine they already know what’s there and are trying to plant seeds of doubt.
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IMO Venuska and her father have been trying to get ahead of the game all along. Suspect it's their attempt to cover up what LE found in the home right from the start. Steve was a film producer. Never made it big. They've mentioned several times they are making a documentary of this "corruption". All just smoke and mirrors to distract from what I suspect LE found at the scene. Their way to control the narrative. LE and DA must have enough evidence to support the charges and the "lewd" photographs are very concerning. She keeps changing her story on those pictures. Venuska also mentioned being accused of child trafficking because police found information on pieces of paper in the home that "were just a joke" in a previous post. Who "jokes" about child sex trafficking? Steve and Heidi IMO have been exploiting their children for decades. They made Venuska and her sisters be in films when they were minors. Also filmed them in sexually suggestive you tube videos doing yoga exercises. This is not normal father behavior. This a man who is controlling, manipulating, and exploiting his daughters and a mother who has allowed it to go on for years. Seems like they tried to gain fame off the coat tails of the Kushi Institute and failed at that. In one videos it shows a little boy excited about his glasses only to be made to feel ashamed by Heidi. Anyone watching the video can see the little boy's face is crushed by his mother's responses. Venuska is finally reunited with her children after nearly a year and she spends that time interrogating and taping the children for public exposure? Who does things like that? A natural instinct would be to love and protect the child, not expose them to the whole world. Very disturbing parenting. The level of defamation of officials has reached a new level. I hope they are charged for that too.
If noticed closely, the Tranberg Bennett posts have evolved over the last 6 months to directly utilize a few community charges of corruption regarding another local case. They have utilized many from a FB group called:
The People Vs Columbia County Corruption
-Very informative insight to their tactics & as well better insight to the community living & dynamics at large. As they have self claimed in posts there’s is a degree of pathological manipulation which of itself is concerning IMO—just an FYI
The People Vs Columbia County Corruption
-Very informative insight to their tactics & as well better insight to the community living & dynamics at large. As they have self claimed in posts there’s is a degree of pathological manipulation which of itself is concerning IMO—just an FYI
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I have just returned from the great dark hole of the TB family FB page. I went to the initial few postings of Evanna's story. I relived my initial horror of them actually blaming EMS and hospital staff for her death. Actual words used in her/their posts were "killed" and 'crushed" among other not so nice verbiage.
I also reflected on what the staff at the hospital might have done, including the all important ER nurse and doctor duty..."to get the story". The family might have answered truthfully, although according to FB, I am not quite sure. But, the question asked to get the story is... "How long has she been sick?" And, then to follow will be..."What did you do to treat her and help her?" And then, "Did you take her to a doctor?" Inevitably, the answers given to the story were enough to raise an alarm, calling in Social Services and subsequently CPS became involved.
The rest of the postings on FB ( and here once upon a time) have been all deflective. The food pics and baby videos are lovely. But, why didn't they all take care of Evanna!?
IMO, There has been ample time for the family to come to the realization that the truth will set you free. Sadly, even the removal and separation of children from parents isn't helping them reach that conclusion. So, Negligent Manslaughter it is then. And, there is more than likely sufficient evidence.
ALL MOO
I also reflected on what the staff at the hospital might have done, including the all important ER nurse and doctor duty..."to get the story". The family might have answered truthfully, although according to FB, I am not quite sure. But, the question asked to get the story is... "How long has she been sick?" And, then to follow will be..."What did you do to treat her and help her?" And then, "Did you take her to a doctor?" Inevitably, the answers given to the story were enough to raise an alarm, calling in Social Services and subsequently CPS became involved.
The rest of the postings on FB ( and here once upon a time) have been all deflective. The food pics and baby videos are lovely. But, why didn't they all take care of Evanna!?
IMO, There has been ample time for the family to come to the realization that the truth will set you free. Sadly, even the removal and separation of children from parents isn't helping them reach that conclusion. So, Negligent Manslaughter it is then. And, there is more than likely sufficient evidence.
ALL MOO
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Respectfully snipped for focus.
Yes, IMO that's the crux of the matter. No one is disputing that they love the kids nor does it look like the kids are unhappy. Unfortunately though, kids depend on their caregivers to provide sufficient vitamins and minerals in their diet and to have regular check ups by competent doctors. And they rely on those caregivers to get them help when they are sick. All the cute videos of happy toddlers in the world doesn't negate their failure to get Evanna help.
I'm dogging this case because IMO it's important; there are seven more minor children in that family. If I was a social worker I absolutely would want those kids out of the house until such time the adult caregivers park their inflated egos and choose to modify their behavior for the sake of those kids. 18 years and they still care more about their spurious beliefs. SMDH. MOO.
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I believe in NYS when there is a child's death with questions about the circumstances it automatically becomes a DSS case.
I’m posting a link to a FB thread in which the author of the TB page engages in a LENGTHY argument with two anonymous accounts. I haven’t managed to get all the way through it yet but I think it’s worth looking at because it mentions accusations of previous issues with them including a “Brookline forum” I’m assuming this stems from their cases in Brookline MA. I haven’t been able to find any of that but numerous accusations are made in the argument including SA of a minor and a long history of child abuse. MOO. I don’t see any of it in MSM
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It is long but worth reading. Take a drink of something every time the word defamation is mentioned - it goes faster that way.
The family doesn't fare too well outside the bubble of their own FB page. If the lives of 7 other little kids weren't on the line it would be laughable. MOO.
P.S. The family claims they're not family but rather an "investigator" hired to document stuff. I have no idea of what that means.
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I followed the first thread. Good grief the family member that was posting was a train wreck. I see nothing has changed! IMO
I am amazed that an entire family can be so delusional. Sigh, I’m so sorry Evanna.
I am amazed that an entire family can be so delusional. Sigh, I’m so sorry Evanna.
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