Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 7

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JTKirk said:
Please let me know when his media blitz is over. What's next, The View?

I understand the Sheriff asking for people to take a step back as it's been a long and dramatic few months, and tensions are high now that Jen has been found. I only hope that they see through the BS as we do. There can't be any other explanation.
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:please: that the Sheriff's concern is a jury.

:moo:
 
http://www.wicz.com/news2005/viewarticle.asp?a=26962
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica]"He told me that they found the body and if I had any questions and all I can remember saying is 'did you tell my in-laws next door,'" says Remy Ramsaran, husband of Jennifer Ramsaran.[/FONT]
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Hmm....so maybe he just didn't think to tell the reporter about the part where he asked "Do you know what happened to her" and "Did you catch the person responsible"
....Or am I wrong for assuming that those are questions you would ask? I know if it were my husband that had been missing and they came to tell me they had found his (HIS, not THE!!!) body, those are things I would instinctively want to know....unless I already knew the answers of course.
ETA: and the "did you tell my in-laws" part...I've tried ignoring but had to "eta" because I need to get this off my brain. The way he says that reminds me of when we were kids and I would ask my sisters if they had tattled on me. I.E. say I broke something, and then my sister left the room for a bit and came back-I would have instantly said "Did you tell Mom?" because I'd want to know if I was gonna have some explaining to do.
 
MissieMt said:
http://www.wicz.com/news2005/viewarticle.asp?a=26962


Hmm....so maybe he just didn't think to tell the reporter about the part where he asked "Do you know what happened to her" and "Did you catch the person responsible"
....Or am I wrong for assuming that those are questions you would ask? I know if it were my husband that had been missing and they came to tell me they had found his (HIS, not THE!!!) body, those are things I would instinctively want to know....unless I already knew the answers of course.
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Yep that's the second time he has said "the body". It seems he has already completely detached. For gods sake she was only confirmed as dead 1-2 days ago!
yep are normal person's reaction would be what happened to her? who did it? do you have any suspects? Did she feel pain? Can I see her?
 
AnJ11811 said:
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/sto...ce-in-wifes-death/NAO7jKz5I0mj5avBjsngUg.cspx

I'm a little late in commenting on this one....BUT as I was watching this video, my husband was listening from across the room....and as GR said "there is nothing in the house"...my husband stopped me and implied that the statement itself was very telling, even in the context of the interview...he let them search knowing nothing was there....food for thought
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That same quote jumped out to me Too. IMHO that was the most telling of all the statements that he has made...{""there is nothing in the house""} IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH...

That leads me to believe that he removed JR from her van in the woods near Plymouth...that is the scene of the crime...The only thing that bothers me is how he transported her body to her final resting place??? Did LE use Cadaver Dogs on both of their Vans??? Praying that LE did and is keeping that info to themselves.

The "Fact???" that ES gave him a ride home from "The Y" that morning concerns me greatly. Could her vehicle have been used to place JR's body on the side of that small road???

So Many Questions...So Few Answers?

Dear God...Please Bless Jennifer's Parents, Sister and Three Motherless Children!
 
I'm sick so my defense is low.

All I have is Grrrrrrr..

In sickened still about the lack of looking for he Jennifer, finding Jennifer or recovering Jennifer.

It's not normal. I'm sorry.
 
Caring4Many said:
Actually al MPO's are different. But most do provide some services after the victim is found whether they are safe or sadly deceased. There are services that can be provided for victims or survivors. But in the overall scheme of things there "job" is done so to speak. They do offer some initial guidance for a period of time and refer them to the services available but honestly there really is a lot of times a bond there between the person that worked the case & the families. But again- there are all different, just saying what I have seen from what I have been involved in.
Just an example, an MPO that I have volunteered for worked with a family that had a teenager that was missing, it was a case that was taken, when LE was agreeable, searchers were brought in along with LE, along with other services as well, teen was located a few days later, (sadly deceased), but other things were done as well. A vigil was set up, connected to victims assistance programs since the teen was a victim of violence & her state offers that, etc. Not to mention that each case in itself is different.

Yes they do usually rely on donations as well, but no not always from the people that they represent, at least not the MPO I have worked with, it is not for profit & not funds are expected. If you can't donate, you should still be able to have the same services given to you as anyone else & have your loved one searched for.
I hope some of this makes sense, sorry for the overly wordy post.

Please let me add-not all MPO's are like LnM. NOT AT ALL. I know I have said this before & am beating a deadhorse- but it is how I have learned & have seen & what I myself believe. THE VICTIM COMES FIRST, and then their family(and usually those that aren't guilty totally back your efforts), and anything else after that.
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Thanks so much for explaining that Caring4many!
 
GR....

[video=youtube;OS_2RRQZodw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS_2RRQZodw[/video]
 
AnJ11811 said:
Fetal position? Very weird. They say older people who die of natural causes sometimes curl up in the fetal position at death (we go out the way we came in)...or she was "stored" somewhere...I doubt the natural causes theory
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first time posting on this thread. I think you have all done an awesome job, taken alot of heat. I have been following since I live within 4 hours. The one thing that came to my mind (sorry if posted later I'm about 4 pages behind) is maybe she was stored in the cargo storage of the van and that is why she is in a fetal position. Wasn't it thought that the van was not at the apartment's parking lot until 3 to 4 days after she disappeared. Is that when the snow began? MOO
 
Rochestergirl said:
first time posting on this thread. I think you have all done an awesome job, taken alot of heat. I have been following since I live within 4 hours. The one thing that came to my mind (sorry if posted later I'm about 4 pages behind) is maybe she was stored in the cargo storage of the van and that is why she is in a fetal position. Wasn't it thought that the van was not at the apartment's parking lot until 3 to 4 days after she disappeared. Is that when the snow began? MOO
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:wagon: Rochestergirl! :welcome4:

Thank you for your ideas regarding poor Jennifer!

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LolaAngelina said:
Funny you say that. Someone posted on that other social media page saying check random barrels. I was really puzzled by this as it was not in reply to anything. This was days ago, does this person know about the fetal position? Are they saying look in barrels for evidence Jennifer was in there or was he talking about her clothes, purse etc?
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Local to here in Delaware County, NY a case has been unfolding this week that involved murder, suicide and arson. A body was found in a 55 gallon barrel on the property -- person was never posted as missing/or missed by others -- and may have been in there for as long as 3 years...
 
For some reason I'm being reminded of Jim Gaffigan's "Mr Universe" stand up video. (He's talking about guys at the gym and the mirrors)

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Please reivew your posts and self-edit if needed. I am no longer over this thread since it was moved. I would hate for you guys to get in trouble, if you are discussing FB or "someone" from fb.
 
sleepinoz said:
http://www.wicz.com/news2005/viewarticle.asp?a=26962

"MY inlaws" NOT Jenn's parents

The New Berlin mother of three went missing on December 11, 2013
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"They really hurt her bad--so many different things that are on them that she knows is not true," says Ramsaran.

Ummm sorry dude: you hurt her so bad. Destroying her memories of her beloved mother with your words and your actions. Real men take responsibility - not deflect blame onto others. :furious:
 
momrids6 said:
"They really hurt her bad--so many different things that are on them that she knows is not true," says Ramsaran.

Ummm sorry dude: you hurt her so bad. Destroying her memories of her beloved mother with your words and your actions. Real men take responsibility for their actions- not deflect blame onto others. :furious:
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You don't ever think that it will happen to you," says Ramsaran.

Dude it happened to Jennifer NOT you.

http://www.wicz.com/news2005/viewarticle.asp?a=26962
 
Rochestergirl said:
first time posting on this thread. I think you have all done an awesome job, taken alot of heat. I have been following since I live within 4 hours. The one thing that came to my mind (sorry if posted later I'm about 4 pages behind) is maybe she was stored in the cargo storage of the van and that is why she is in a fetal position. Wasn't it thought that the van was not at the apartment's parking lot until 3 to 4 days after she disappeared. Is that when the snow began? MOO
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That is good <very sad> thought Rochester... or as I say it Rock-chester... Perhaps she was kept in the van for a few days and all the blood found in the van -- whatever that amount might be -- was a result of a bleed out -- maybe a head wound (although no visible trauma confirmed yet), or maybe from her mouth. Does/could a possible poisoning cause someone to vomit blood? Would you think LE would check the blood to get an idea of where it came from (head, mouth, etc)?

Re: fetal position -- very sad to think... but maybe in that position because she was still somewhat alive and aware of what was going on -- was cold due to not having clothing and was trying to keep warm?

Gosh those thoughts hurt...
 
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