NY NY - Jonathan Schaff, 23, Granville, 18 Jan 2014

[Topcat]

Shame is his family stopped updating the FB page only after one month of him missing....

 

[MamaJoJo]

Shame is his family stopped updating the FB page only after one month of him missing....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Jonathan-Schaff-Home/196374190570062?fref=nf

I see that. Strange. It was being run by one of Jonathan's cousins. I see that it's almost his birthday, 1/22, so a big

:cake4u: :bdscroll: :cake4u:

to Jonathan, wherever he may be.

 

[Axiom]

Frustrated dad seeks answers in disappearance of son
FATHER OF 21-YEAR-OLD CONSIDERS CREATING REWARD, HIRING PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR http://poststar.com/news/local/frus...cle_7ccdd7a6-a5a6-11e4-a23f-3b0cd75af8e0.html

 

[Wanting2Help]

Sniped from above article:

Jonathan Schaff, 21, of Fair Haven, Vt., was last seen early the morning of Jan. 18, 2014, walking away from the Granville bar. He had gotten in a fight with another man a short time earlier, and was accompanying a couple he had met who were going to give him a ride around 4:30 a.m.

Their car was parked a half-mile or so away east, in the parking lot of Loomis Trucking on Route 149 in West Pawlet, Vt. They told police that Jonathan Schaff walked ahead of them when they slowed to smoke a cigarette, and he was not in the lot when they got there.

Jonathan Schaff’s cellphone was found four days later in a truck cab in the Loomis parking lot, but no sign of the missing man has been found since. Police theorized he fell into the nearby Mettawee River, but dozens of searches have turned up nothing in or around the river.

John Schaff said police have told him that a series of surveillance cameras at businesses show his son walking east that morning, but not making it to a bank where he should have been seen.

A camera in front of Happy Daze Pub on Main Street in Granville shows him walking east with two people, apparently the couple with whom he was going to get a ride. One at TD Bank’s branch further east on Main Street shows one person, he said.

John Schaff said the camera outside the Citizens Bank branch on Route 149 just east of the state line shows two people passing by around the time frame where Schaff and the couple would have walked by, but not a solitary person as Schaff would have been walking alone ahead of the couple.

The parking lot of Loomis Trucking is across Route 149 from the bank branch.

Instead of catching a ride with the couple he left the bar with, Jonathan Schaff may have decided to try to walk to a relative’s home that was nearby, his father said. It was likely then that he was attacked as a spillover from the fight that occurred in Riverside Pub earlier that morning, or by someone else who he came across.

 

[Topcat]

Would he have to walk past the Citizens bank to get to the Loomis parking lot? I read they are across from each other, so is it possible that the camera wouldn't catch him if he was across the street? I feel the couple are not being truthful with their account of what they say happened.

 

[Axiom]

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.405...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sr0O9DhtH2auCdeZrZm0sQQ!2e0

 

[SunsetGirl]

http://m.poststar.com/news/local/frustrated-dad-seeks-answers-in-disappearance-of-son/article_7ccdd7a6-a5a6-11e4-a23f-3b0cd75af8e0.html?mobile_touch=true

Interesting comments posted under this news article. It's very understandable that Jonathan's family is frustrated. I hope they get answers soon!

 

[Redux]

One year later, still no answers for a missing man's family

http://www.wcax.com/story/27878877/one-year-later-still-no-answers-for-a-missing-mans-family

So I'm thinking, if they did something nasty to him they did use May's car to do it. Now I can't prove that... But I'm saying," says his father, John Schaff.

I'm a little confused by this quote - why does he think someone used Jonathan's mother's car to do something nasty to him? Or am I misreading that?

 

[SunsetGirl]

That quote does seem odd and without hearing what was said before & after, it's out of context. Who would have access to his mom's car? That was a pretty 'sloppy' news report.

 

[SunsetGirl]

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3603481.shtml

Caution: this news article contains a graphic description of what the family has heard happened to Jonathan

 

[GigTu]

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3603481.shtml

Caution: this news article contains a graphic description of what the family has heard happened to Jonathan

Gruesome. That report was all over the place with unsubstantiated theories. It doesn't even go on to say WHY they think the wood chipper is involved.

 

[Tssiemer]

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3603481.shtml

Caution: this news article contains a graphic description of what the family has heard happened to Jonathan

Ick! Who would say that if it wasn't true?


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[SunsetGirl]

Gruesome. That report was all over the place with unsubstantiated theories. It doesn't even go on to say WHY they think the wood chipper is involved.

I've quick scanned all the recent news articles on Jonathan Schaff and there are all sorts of random quotes from the family about what may have happened - in a small community I can see how rumors and speculation get circulated. Yet there's likely the truth somewhere amidst all the rumors. I'm embarrassed at the news reporting on this case.

The thing is, I had the sick thought go through my mind on another case I've followed that a wood chipper could be a fast way to dispose of a body in the winter. If you've ever used one or watched one being used, you know what I mean.

 

[GigTu]

Fargo.

 

[TedMac]

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...2/23/vsp-human-remains-found-goshen/77797782/

Could this be him?

Human skeletal remains were found in Goshen on Tuesday, prompting a probe by the Vermont State Police, spokesman Scott Waterman said Wednesday morning.

"The remains were found by a member of the public around 1 p.m. Tuesday near Vermont 73, or Gap Road, said Capt. J.P. Sinclair. The person was walking near the road when the discovery was made, Sinclair said..."

 

[TedMac]

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...2/23/vsp-human-remains-found-goshen/77797782/

Could this be him?

"Human skeletal remains were found in Goshen on Tuesday, prompting a probe by the Vermont State Police, spokesman Scott Waterman said Wednesday morning.

The remains were found by a member of the public around 1 p.m. Tuesday near Vermont 73, or Gap Road, said Capt. J.P. Sinclair. The person was walking near the road when the discovery was made, Sinclair said..."

I guess I can answer my own question...It was Denise L. Hart.

http://www.wcax.com/story/30827749/p...as-missing-mom

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?269999-VT-Denise-L-Hart-25-Sudbury-25-January-2015

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Ugh. Can't believe he hasn't been found.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

2 years since disappearance of Fair Haven man

http://www.wcax.com/story/30992080/2-years-since-disappearance-of-fair-haven-man

It's now been two years since the disappearance of a Vermont man, and there are no new leads in the case.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

Here's a longer article on the case:

http://poststar.com/news/blotter/two-years-missing-and-still-no-clues/article_ca5b2351-549b-570d-9858-bebb9b58881d.html

Family members, including Schaff’s father, have continually expressed frustration at a lack of communication from Vermont State Police. They have pushed for a diver search or draining of nearby slate quarries, which has not occurred.

Vermont State Police Lt. Reg Trayah said the agency has been following leads as they come in, and recently assigned the case to a new supervising detective to take a “fresh look” at the investigation.

He said investigators have pursued the leads that focused on social media discussions, but have not found them to be credible at this point.

“We are following up on any and all leads,” he said.

 

[Wanting2Help]

Facebook page for Jonathan: https://www.facebook.com/Justice-for-Johnathan-Schaff-1067389753272743/