NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #6

[concentric]

I hypothesized pages, or is it threads back, that the killer might have a shed or fishing shack where he takes the victims after their appointed party is over: the "after-party" or torture and murder place.

A criminologist suggested several days ago that there were 3 crime scenes; however, he said the second crime scene would be the vehicle. In this case, I don't think it was a vehicle, rather a structure wherein he murdered these women.

It was at that point that I recounted cases such as Ng and Lake, who had such a torture cabin.

 

[susan1122]

If this blogger's site is NOT "As featured in the Associated Press...and NY Times," as per the bottom of each page, she'll be hearing from them soon, as well as from others. In which case, the blog will be altered-significantly.

Am I understanding that correctly? An endorsement from these entities?

It looks to me like she/they are saying they were featured in those newspapers, etc......I know one article I read today mentioned that site. If this isn't the LE trying to lure POI then I don't get the purpose.....it is so sensationalized.....or was. And as someone up here said, sophisticated. But they did take down the t-shirt sales ad. Which was actually huge and the only thing I saw when I went over there earlier.....so maybe they were hoping to make a bunch of money. Which would be obnoxious. Jmo.

 

[concentric]

Also, days ago, upon becoming aware that the skeletenized remains were dumped on the beach. I posted that I thought someone had a shack or shed with acid barrels.

 

[epiphany]

I do think he has a thing with the bones. I think the burial site is his decomposition place. I posted some links and theorys yesterday on this subject. It is simply too much work.
There are 3 crime scenes.
1. Where he picked up the girls.
2. Where he killed them.
3. The burial site.
To throw one between 2&3 is another possibity of getting cought. Makes no sense....

Yes, I agree. That's also why some think SB's last known john is not a suspect as LE has stated.

 

[nugzter]

Also, days ago, upon becoming aware that the skeletenized remains were dumped on the beach. I posted that I thought someone had a shack or shed with acid barrels.

I have not read any where where the sketetonized remains were dumped. Can you zap me a link to that? Or tell me roughly where you posted it before?

 

[susan1122]

If one of the bodies is from 2007 it would have skeletonized in place.

Nugzter, I was wondering about Amber......missing in September, found in December. Do you have any idea if that is enough time to skeletonize a body? I know there is the sea and salt....it seems too fast. But I don't know.

 

[concentric]

Who was the poster here who noted that Nancy Grace was talking about de-fleshing and that what got us all started about the fact that it must have already been skeletenized remains put in the burlap bags?

I'll have to go back and find that and all of our posts pertinent to our discussion.

 

[nugzter]

Nugzter, I was wondering about Amber......missing in September, found in December. Do you have any idea if that is enough time to skeletonize a body? I know there is the sea and salt....it seems too fast. But I don't know.

No that is not very easy with out chemical help. I posted an article from an occultist who gave tips on how to bury animals in burlap sacks and roughly how long to wait until you can get the bones with little clean up work. Let me look for it again.....brb

here it is
http://witchofforestgrove.com/2010/09/28/dem-bones/

 

[Filly]

Depending on the LE agency and how friendly the person at the desk was feeling, they might well have been told that they couldn't report her, it would have to be the family.

According to the news articles ALC was not reported missing. Schaller said when she didn't return he called her sister who told him not to worry.

Please know I am not judging anyone for not reporting Amber missing. That's not my place. In fact I understand the circumstances a little too well. However, I also doubt those two friends reported her either. When people are dealing with even the factor of heroin you don't pop into the cops. Usually.

Sadly when someone has a record it's easier to report them missing in hopes that they'll get busted again.

 

[Filly]

It's not only tricks that get robbed. We just had this happen here. Lava Life is where the woman posted. The man that became the victim took the woman to dinner. On the up and up. She then invited his back to her hotel.

Held up at gunpoint.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130379&highlight=bensalem

That's not cool.

 

[susan1122]

No that is not very easy with out chemical help. I posted an article from an occultist who gave tips on how to bury animals in burlap sacks and roughly how long to wait until you can get the bones with little clean up work. Let me look for it again.....brb

here it is
http://witchofforestgrove.com/2010/09/28/dem-bones/

Thanks Nugzter. Yeah, I was thinking it seemed to quick. OT (sorry...graphic), I know someone who told me his neighbor is a bone freak and kills animals and then boils the skin off. So disgusting....I mean the stench alone....but, geez. Weird. MOO.

 

[concentric]

I have not read any where where the sketetonized remains were dumped. Can you zap me a link to that? Or tell me roughly where you posted it before?

Sure. But it's going to take me awhile since I'm really involved in the recovery efforts in the Holly Bobo case.

One of our sleuthers here posted a very telling video showing skeletal remains of one of the call girl victims that could have never decomposed to a skeleton within the timeframe of when the remains were placed there.

 

[shadowraiths]

Sounds to me like they weren't all skeletonized. ( link )

The bodies, which were found within 500 feet of each other, were all in various states of decomposition and stripped of their jewelry, identification, purses, and clothing. It appeared that they had been killed elsewhere, robbing detectives of valuable clues.​

 

[nugzter]

Sure. But it's going to take me awhile since I'm really involved in the recovery efforts in the Holly Bobo case.

One of our sleuthers here posted a very telling video showing skeletal remains of one of the call girl victims that could have never decomposed to a skeleton within the timeframe of when the remains were placed there.

Thanks, no hurry. I am headed off to bed soon. I'll check back in 5 hours. THX

 

[shadowraiths]

The bodies found in march and april were skeletonized, and had roots growing through the vertebrae. ( link ) which is why LE stated the second set of remains were much older than the ones found in December.

Speaking to the New York Post about the bones found on Monday, a source close to the investigation said: 'These [bones] are so old that roots were growing around the vertebrae and the skull.'​

I still question that the SK is holding his victims for any period of time. Esp since there are no reports of mutilations and the reports of skeletonization appears to be regarding the second set of remains.

 

[concentric]

Right now I can't find the video that was posted in here and I don't have the time to go through all of the posts.

 

[Lera213]

For some reason I forgot about some details so if some of you would like to explain it again to me I would appreciate it.

SG called 911 first from JB's house right? Did she use his phone or her Cell phone?

She runs to neighbors house, and the neighbor called 911.

OK so why couldn't they traces SG 911 call if she was calling from her cell and why haven't they been able to ping her phone, or gone back to the days in question to see ping traffic in that area or her cell company should have those records of her last phone call being the 911 right?

If she thought she was in danger therefore ran to find help, refusing that help and took off running, she had her cell right? Could she have called someone to come get her? Like a John or another Prostitute in the area?

 

[nugzter]

The bodies found in march and april were skeletonized, and had roots growing through the vertebrae. ( link ) which is why LE stated the second set of remains were much older than the ones found in December.

Speaking to the New York Post about the bones found on Monday, a source close to the investigation said: 'These [bones] are so old that roots were growing around the vertebrae and the skull.'​

I still question that the SK is holding his victims for any period of time. Esp since there are no reports of mutilations and the reports of skeletonization appears to be regarding the second set of remains.

The question I have is were they skeletonized before he wrapped them in burlap and dumped them? That would bring a whole new demention to this SK.

 

[shadowraiths]

The question I have is were they skeletonized before he wrapped them in burlap and dumped them?

The first set of remains that were in various stages of decomp were wrapped in burlap ( link ) not the second, skeletonized remains found in march/april ( link ) As for choosing burlap to wrap the craigslist victims? That choice arguably refutes contentions that this individual has above average in intelligence. Based upon Locard's Exchange Principle, alone.

 

[nugzter]

I just checked longislanderotica site and it is down. Hmmmmm. Looks like the ball is rolling. Who ever found that info should get some credit. I read those post here day before yesterday I think. So it was cracked by a webslueth before this crappy other site ripped it. Good job....