NY-LI-4 bodies on Beach-Possible SK-12/10-All id'd,4 more found 3/11 #4

[Filly]

SBM..... Carbuff, I am SO glad you are over here on this thread. You are one of the most dedicated people I know over on the Unidentified thread. HeinekenMan.... welcome, and I think you should stick around at WS's because it seems you might have a skill or two also! In fact... WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW MEMBERS HERE!!!

Just wanted to second that.

 

[scandi]

Danica, Internet Girl super sleuthed that photograph from the internet. Waaaaay back at the begining in the original threads a WS member posted a picture of that truck. Well, IMO I'd say the same truck close to a particular person's home.

Think I got that right. Just wanted to answer you.

Oh nice job Internet Girl.

Now that could prove to be velly intellesting, eh?

 

[LadyL]

soooo, I'm trying to catch up

from the latest link in the media thread, it appears LE doesn't know if the latest sets of bones are the work of this SK, or even human ... is that correct?

 

[strach304]

When the news broke about the four women in AC being found there was a SK operating in the UK at that time and LE worked together to see if there could be a connection. Perhaps a businessman that traveled. After they arrested someone in the UK killings didn't hear much else about the women in AC. We have/had a thread here where there was a SK active in Harford County, Md. same mo as the AC killer. The women were drug addicts/prostitutes strangled and IIRC one was shot. LE in Md. arrested a man that was a bf of one of the victims and had strangled her. I was never comfortable about that perp being responsible for all those killings. What got my interest and a possible connection was I-95 running through these areas where the killings were taking place. Several of us were sleuthing those in addition to killings in NC. and Fl. several victims female prostitutes/drug addicts were shot. I still think they need to look at the ones in NJ, NY and Md. for a connection. I-95 is a major thru way for drug runners and the like.

 

[HeinekenMan]

Well, I normally post on a sportswriter message board. These topics are a little more sensitive than a discussion of whether Tiger Woods can win another major. So I plan to tread lightly. I'm impressed thus far with all of the thinking and digging.

I know a lot of folks have mentioned their theories. I don't have all of the details. So my theory will probably be cast out right away. But here it is. I think there's a sick SK pimp who kills prostitutes for fun. I think some girls disappeared, and I think those girls had visited the john SG saw the night she disappeared. I think SG knew the names of some of those girls who had disappeared. I think the john she visited mentioned a few of those girls' names, and I think she was able to put together that all of the disappeared girls had the same pimp.

That would explain why she didn't want to leave them.

Here are the questions that I still have:

1. What was the last we heard about this second john? I heard there was a transient who was at the home, but I haven't read all of the thread stuff to know the whole story on that.

2. If she named the person who was after her, has anyone released that person's name?

Everything seems to point to the driver. Everything. Yet he's not even considered a suspect. Why not? Is LE hoping he is relaxed enough to pull another one? Or is he truly innocent?

 

[Filly]

soooo, I'm trying to catch up

from the latest link in the media thread, it appears LE doesn't know if the latest sets of bones are the work of this SK, or even human ... is that correct?

Ermmmmmm, nope. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

Someone else can summarize. You know me and brevity. Glad you are here.

 

[carbuff]

If we operate on the theory that all three (New York, Jersey and Daytona Beach) are the same person, we can establish a few other theories.

1. This person is a seasonal traveler and prefers coastal communities that are also tourist destinations. This person keeps a low profile.

The person must be working or vacationing in these areas. It could be someone traveling by boat. It could be a fisherman who works different areas during different times of the year.

snipped by me for brevity

First of all, welcome, and thank you very much for that information about the Daytona victims. I hadn't included them because of the gun, but you make a good point and they do fit the timeline rather well.

I wonder if he might be an airline pilot or crew member. One of the big things on Long Island are the two big airports, Kennedy and LaGuardia. AC isn't far from Newark airport.

 

[strach304]

IMO an animal shelter "dog catcher" (isn't ) truck????

That or a utility truck. Power, telephone or cable.

 

[Filly]

When the news broke about the four women in AC being found there was a SK operating in the UK at that time and LE worked together to see if there could be a connection. Perhaps a businessman that traveled. After they arrested someone in the UK killings didn't hear much else about the women in AC. We have/had a thread here where there was a SK active in Harford County, Md. same mo as the AC killer. The women were drug addicts/prostitutes strangled and IIRC one was shot. LE in Md. arrested a man that was a bf of one of the victims and had strangled her. I was never comfortable about that perp being responsible for all those killings. What got my interest and a possible connection was I-95 running through these areas where the killings were taking place. Several of us were sleuthing those in addition to killings in NC. and Fl. several victims female prostitutes/drug addicts were shot. I still think they need to look at the ones in NJ, NY and Md. for a connection. I-95 is a major thru way for drug runners and the like.

Hartford County, MD?

I-95 would rule out the Jersey. I was focusing on the Garden State Parkway in connection between NY and NJ.

We know it's not the Philly SK. I don't even think that dude drove.

 

[LadyL]

Ermmmmmm, nope. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

Someone else can summarize. You know me and brevity. Glad you are here.

I can't possibly catch up when I'm addicted to the eagle cam thread.

That's why I went to the media thread. Arghhhh.

K, I shall google now.

 

[carbuff]

Another possible: Danielle Marie Nuttall-Ravert (http://www.nampn.org/cases/nuttall-ravert_danielle.html) Missing Since: September 2, 2008 from Trenton, New Jersey.

I didn't include her on the first pass because she's heavy and I was only looking for petite women. But Molly Dilts is also a large woman.

And Danielle's case information includes this: "Nuttall-Ravert is also known to frequent the Egg Harbor area, where she used to live, and Atlantic City."

Whoa. Do you suppose there are more bodies in AC that haven't been located?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Wait a second...there was a similar looking vehicle parked in front of a home in the gated community?!

Anyone have a link to that?

 

[txsvicki]

I just tuned in to NG earlier and paid attention to these murders for the first time since it's all been in the news. Rupa is a fantastic media person. She gives directions, dates, detailed explanations, etc. If this guy/guys was at that beach and the client who Gilbert ran away from is really innocent, then the killer must have been returning to the scene of the crime or trolling the beach stretch of road. Very scary. His voice sounded like manufactured, but the speech pattern sounded very similar to the victim's younger sister. Must be from the same area.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

That or a utility truck. Power, telephone or cable.

Park Service?

 

[SuziQ]

What is that pic from? It looks like a park truck for an employee...it looks like there are lights on top of it.

Give me the BTK heebie jeebies.

 

[strach304]

snipped by me for brevity

First of all, welcome, and thank you very much for that information about the Daytona victims. I hadn't included them because of the gun, but you make a good point and they do fit the timeline rather well.

I wonder if he might be an airline pilot or crew member. One of the big things on Long Island are the two big airports, Kennedy and LaGuardia. AC isn't far from Newark airport.

That was one of the possibilities LE looked into with the UK and AC killings being connected. Lets say the AC, Md. and NY. are the same killer the timing is right. After the bodies were found in NJ and an arrest in Md. the NY. killings took place. Timeline was always right from what I recall when comparing AC and Md. at the time. Of course if it's the same killer he doesn't get caught because he moves around and possibly switchs his mo to avoid detection.

 

[HeinekenMan]

snipped by me for brevity

First of all, welcome, and thank you very much for that information about the Daytona victims. I hadn't included them because of the gun, but you make a good point and they do fit the timeline rather well.

I wonder if he might be an airline pilot or crew member. One of the big things on Long Island are the two big airports, Kennedy and LaGuardia. AC isn't far from Newark airport.

That's another possible profession. It's obviously a big jump to link these. But they Daytona murders were said to be the work of an SK, and the dates match. I just kept noticing the gaps in the LI timeline. This person either shuts it down in the winter or simply isn't around during those months. So I have sort of been wondering how we fill in the gaps.

 

[RIGHTEOUS1]

Was there a Press release today?

 

[gngr~snap]

That is probably not the kind of vehicle a pimp would drive. Def extended cab (4 doors) with a hard cover over the back. They do have amber lights on the top of the cab. Maybe a Ford F250? Could be maintenance truck but nothing. on it identifying it as corps of engineers Parks Dept or LE. Maybe DOT but still would be labeled
I think :waitasec:
MOO

 

[strach304]

Another possible: Danielle Marie Nuttall-Ravert (http://www.nampn.org/cases/nuttall-ravert_danielle.html) Missing Since: September 2, 2008 from Trenton, New Jersey.

I didn't include her on the first pass because she's heavy and I was only looking for petite women. But Molly Dilts is also a large woman.

And Danielle's case information includes this: "Nuttall-Ravert is also known to frequent the Egg Harbor area, where she used to live, and Atlantic City."

Whoa. Do you suppose there are more bodies in AC that haven't been located?

I know they searched the area at the time they found the four bodies. They were laid out right together and determined the most recent had been killed no more than a week ago. The rest up to a month and the ones they determined COD for was strangulation. They thought he was doing some type of ritualistic thing by pointing their feet east. I think he removed or placed socks on them.