NY - Search for escaped convicted killers, David Sweat & Richard Matt, Dannemora #1

[dotr]

In depth look into the life (and childhood) of DS. It appears he stopped writing his mom 2 months ago. She wants nothing to do with him.

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/2015/06/09/escaped-prisoners-mother-speaks-son/28770547/



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rbbm.
Sweat is as nastily vicious as Matt, imo.
His poor Mom, surprising that she still visited him in jail and even tried to get him transferred closer to ' home", yet now wants "nothing to do with him. " imo..

From the link.

"On July 4, 2002, Sweat and two others had just burglarized a firearms and fireworks store in Great Bend, Pa., when Tarsia came across them at Grange Hall Park in Kirkwood.

Sweat shot Tarsia and drove over him with a car, while another man shot the deputy twice in the face, according to court records"

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

EXCLUSIVE: Prison worker who agreed to drive 'Shawshank' escapees is 'a TROUBLEMAKER' and a 'cheater' claims former colleague, as married woman's mom leaves cryptic sign in front of childhood home: 'All because two people fell in love'

Joyce Mitchell, 51, known at Tillie, worked at Clinton Correctional Facility and confessed she planned to drive getaway car for escapees

Her mother Joyce Clookey has fled to another state, but left the enigmatic sign on the porch of Tillie's childhood home

Tillie is suspected of helping the two killers escape, thinking that she had a future with one of them - Richard Matt

Former colleague Nancy Hewitt tells Daily Mail Online Tillie was caught having sex on the railroad tracks near her former place of employment

She was cheating on her first husband with Lyle Richards, Hewitt claims

Mitchell checked into Alice Hyde Medical Center in Malone, NY with a panic attack on Saturday

Search for the escaped murderers in mountainous Adirondacks regions of upstate New York has entered its fifth day


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-home-two-people-fell-love.html#ixzz3cgjqdCkL
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[dotr]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rk-prison-escape-seamstress-killers/71000228/
rrbm.

"Torture is probably an understatement," Bates told CNN's Anderson Cooper. He said Matt shoved a knife sharpener in his victim's ear, broke his neck then dismembered the body.

While violent and ruthless, he's also capable of getting others to help him, Bates tells CNN.

"He can make friends easy. He's a master manipulator."

 

[MyBelle]

rbbm.
Sweat is as nastily vicious as Matt, imo.
His poor Mom, surprising that she still visited him in jail and even tried to get him transferred closer to ' home", yet now wants "nothing to do with him. " imo..

From the link.

"On July 4, 2002, Sweat and two others had just burglarized a firearms and fireworks store in Great Bend, Pa., when Tarsia came across them at Grange Hall Park in Kirkwood.

Sweat shot Tarsia and drove over him with a car, while another man shot the deputy twice in the face, according to court records"

I have no sympathy for the woman who raised children in total dysfunction, had them taken from her and placed in foster care and she's still blaming him.

"He's making my life miserable," Sweat said of her son.

 

[kimi_SFC]

From the DM article:
(Snip)
Mitchell's son came to her defense on Tuesday telling NBC that his mother was not the kind of person who would help the murderers escape, putting her life or anyone else's in danger.

Tobey Mitchell said: 'If she was involved in anything, you can rest assured there was a good reason to it and there's more into it than a relationship with an inmate.'

Mitchell suggested that his mother could have been taken advantage of because the prisoners, who both had life terms, 'don't have anything to lose'.


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[oh_gal]

I felt bad for Mitchell's son -- he did an interview on the Today Show, saying there's no way his mom would do something like this "willingly." Poor kid. He just loves his mom, and truly believes that, I think.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ne...oned-escape-says-mom-would-not-assist-n372416

 

[MinnesotaMary]

I wonder what Shumlin ' s part will be. There is an FBI or DEA helicopter flying around Middlebury VT right now. I don't know if it's related, it's also very probable they are looking for grow operations or doing training. They use the Middlebury airport for that a lot.

Need a link - I see nothing at all online except that there is a helicopter school in that city.

 

[trigger]

This is my biggest question and I asked this several times yesterday.

If a car did not pick them up and they are on foot why hadn't the bloodhounds been able to track them?

Because of the rain??

 

[trigger]

Sorry I stepped away from the tv for bit and have to go out very soon but just wanted to mention that on TWCNews.com's live feed last night (so, probably a story or video or tweet can be found - kimi you were on this last night, maybe you can find something to verify it? ) that there are several commercial freight trains that run right through that area, and in fact right thru the property they were searching yesterday. They have also said something else about it railroad that I can't remember just now, referring to it being one of the more common vehicles they'd come across, as rural as the prison and this area and in between is. I'm sorry but I have to go out now, otherwise I'd look for links right now myself.. , oh "yes" is the answer to the question earlier they said something like "someone saw 2 men with a guitar case or something over his shoulder" but someone already linked for that too.

Also real quick I didn't mean to imply earlier that I can get info, like - ask a cop or reporter personally or something- for information to help verify what I say here. I only meant that the source I keep quotinng is a live 24 hour news channel for our larger area here, and so they have tons of air time to fill and as such are probably putting on every big and little thing they find out about this, and maybe a bit sooner than other shows that wait for their main broadcast or a chance to update the ticker on the screen or something. So figured I can try to help verify stuff via that access to that news channel. Sorry for any poor word choices I may have made that implied something else in regards to verification issues!

Good to see you GGE!

 

[cpaul]

I don't think it was raining when they left the man hole and if it was they would still be able to be tracked.

 

[GinaSeikwa]

OT somewhat but just saw this on my local news about the aforementioned Surete du Quebec police force. If Sweat and Matt did make it here they've got it made. Nobody's looking for them, nobody would be able to communicate with them.. Sarcastically pathetic. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/mon...after-french-only-sq-emergency-call-1.3106899

 

[cpaul]

"The bloodhound is a large scent hound originally bred for hunting deer and wild boar, but also used from the Middle Ages onwards for tracking human beings, and now most often bred specifically for that purpose. Thought to be descended from hounds once kept at the Abbey of St Hubert in Belgium, it is known to French speakers as the Chien de Saint-Hubert.

This dog is famed for its ability to discern human odors even days later, over great distances, even across water. Its extraordinarily keen sense of smell is combined with a strong and tenacious tracking instinct, producing the ideal scent hound, and it is used by police and law enforcement all over the world to track escaped prisoners, missing people, lost children and lost pets."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodhound

 

[Hatfield]

I felt bad for Mitchell's son -- he did an interview on the Today Show, saying there's no way his mom would do something like this "willingly." Poor kid. He just loves his mom, and truly believes that, I think.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ne...oned-escape-says-mom-would-not-assist-n372416

I'm sorry but I had the opposite reaction. I am tired of family members coming on TV and claiming "my so + so would never do that".

Time and time again people do this on TV and time and time again they are the ones who are guilty.

 

[Mountaingazer]

Need a link - I see nothing at all online except that there is a helicopter school in that city.

Just posting what I am observing from mu garden. I will take a picture the next time it swoops around, I live right by the airport. I can't find a link to the training, but federal agencies and military from New Jersey even come to this spot to train because it is a great place to practice mountain maneuvers. Not associated with the helicopter school that is also run out of the airport, my friend is actually an instructor for the school.

I think it might be DEA though because they seem to be scanning fields. Could also be related to the Denise Hart case because it looks a lot like the helicopters from the big search they did a few weeks back.

 

[CARIIS]

I do not know guys - it is strange. I think we all know how this is gonna play out - BUT - why is that not happening??? I do want to hear from you guys - its just odd - a firefight, and death etc- why is this still going on?

 

[epiphany]

Cuomo: VT has been discussed as a poss location

--marine patrols on Lake Champlain

 

[kimi_SFC]

Extensive write up via VOX explores other cases, and an analysis of the current search:

How the escaped prisoners in New York are being tracked — and will almost certainly be caught - Vox
[...]
Investigators are gathering intelligence from family members and loved ones of the escapees as well: "We certainly want to talk to ex-wives, ex-girlfriends," says former Marshal DePaul, "to gather any intelligence we can from their history." But the main reason investigators want to reach out to associates and family members as soon as possible after an escape: surveillance.

If an escapee has help from friends or family, he's able to solve the resource problem indefinitely: he can get anything he needs without having to show his face. That's why, DePaul says, investigators have to identify and track anyone the fugitives might get in touch with. In his words: "You've got to know who's who in the zoo."

MuchMore@Link
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/9/8751483/prison-escape-manhunt

I'm wondering if this quote is an interview with Lenny DePaul, who was featured on Manhunters: Fugitive Task Force


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[kimi_SFC]

I'm sorry but I had the opposite reaction. I am tired of family members coming on TV and claiming "my so + so would never do that".

Time and time again people do this on TV and time and time again they are the ones who are guilty.

I'm with you Hatfield, especially after reading the backstory in the latest DM article (grain of salt and all)



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[epiphany]

Gov of VT:

have info that

NY would b hot
VT cooler in terms of LE

 

[trigger]

I don't think it was raining when they left the man hole and if it was they would still be able to be tracked.

Yeah I would think so to but Eric Rudolph spent more than five years in the Appalachian wilderness as a fugitive, during which federal and amateur search teams scoured the area without success.