NY - Search for escaped convicted killers, David Sweat & Richard Matt, Dannemora #1

[cpaul]

Who knows what LE knows or suspects.........we don't.

Actually we know quite a lot from what was said at the press conference.

 

[Marah]

I felt bad for Mitchell's son -- he did an interview on the Today Show, saying there's no way his mom would do something like this "willingly." Poor kid. He just loves his mom, and truly believes that, I think.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ne...oned-escape-says-mom-would-not-assist-n372416

She herself probably doesn't know how she got herself in this mess. Yes, she is accountable for what she has done, but those men have master minds.

 

[epiphany]

Watching TWCNews.com live feed again now - they just were interviewing Sweat's mother and she said that he has been violent since he was 9 years old. There were family photos of him and his siblings with his parents.

It was Matt who was abandoned as an infant in the car and who was subsequently put into foster care and has been in and out of jail ever since. Not Sweat.

David and an older sister spent time in foster care, she said, and David lived at a group home in Binghamton where she said he regularly ran away.

Pamela Sweat said she did not know whether David attended high school.

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/2015/06/09/escaped-prisoners-mother-speaks-son/28770547/

 

[Hope4More]

Actually we know quite a lot from what was said at the press conference.

Take it with a grain of salt, yes? LE withholds, distorts, even lies, if that serves their strategic purposes.

 

[dotr]

“We need to find these escapees; they are dangerous men. They are killers. They are murderers,” said New York Governor Andrew Cuomo at a press conference.


“There is no reason they won’t do it again, as they get more desperate.”


State and federal law officers have been pounding on doors in the small towns of Willsboro and Dannemora, N.Y., located little more than an hour’s drive south of the Canadian border. New York state police say they have received more than 500 tips from the public regarding their whereabouts, and are offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to the men’s capture.


Police believe they may have headed across state lines to nearby Vermont. New York and Vermont authorities are cooperating in the manhunt."

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...scaped-convicts-are-likely-to-kill-again.html

 

[STANDREID]

Take it with a grain of salt, yes? LE withholds, distorts, even lies, if that serves their strategic purposes.

They can withhold and "color" their remarks but I would advise them not to flat-out lie to the public; not if they want any future help.

 

[dotr]

Wonder if they had access to fresh clothing and toiletries?
Both would look quite different with suits and less likely to be pulled over, imo.
Sweat's red hair stands out, so maybe he shaved head and face, imo.

 

[monkey222]

Would like to see a sketch of what they most recently looked like prior to to escape and not old mugshots.
To shimmy hundreds of feet thru 24 inch pipes is not for a fat ninja.

 

[STANDREID]

I have to wonder if the story about this woman supposedly failing to pick these guys up isn't part of the plan to lay a false trail. That is, keep the cops searching close by while the crooks are taking a boat to Brazil.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I felt the same way. She allowed herself to get "conned" by a savage murderer who dismembered his victim? Hello??????

I wonder how much someone in her position would know about individual prisoners. Could be she didn't know how extremely brutal his crimes were.

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[CARIIS]

I have to wonder if the story about this woman supposedly failing to pick these guys up isn't part of the plan to lay a false trail. That is, keep the cops searching close by while the crooks are taking a boat to Brazil.

I dunno know you guys - obviously planned starting to think they may be in Boingo Houdis Grefd !
I think they loooooooooooooooong gone enjoying a big cocktail!

 

[cpaul]

Would like to see a sketch of what they most recently looked like prior to to escape and not old mugshots.
To shimmy hundreds of feet thru 24 inch pipes is not for a fat ninja.

I believe the mugshots are very recent...maybe from May, 2015

 

[nightwatch]

Looking at this pic it looks as if the tool marks when I blow up the image are horizontal tool marks on the edge of the cut which would be a sawzall type cut and not a cut-off wheel and it looks like an orange extension cord is there as well.View attachment 76125

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gov...son-break-gallery-1.2249211?pmSlide=1.2249207

Gosh look at how tight the pipe is, news reports they crawled 400 ft. That's more than a football field, no claustrophobia with those two. I can't even hike in slot canyons. They must have had flashlights to be able to see. This whole plan was well thought out. Jmo

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/08/nyregion/prison-escape.html

ciao

 

[dotr]

http://news.yahoo.com/prison-break-spotlights-code-silence-behind-bars-182016803.html

"The 170-year-old, 3,000-inmate prison has a particularly notorious reputation, singled out in a watchdog report last year for a higher rate of violence among inmates than most New York state prisons.

State Assemblyman Daniel O'Donnell, who is chairman of the Corrections Committee and visited Clinton last September, said he was astounded by the accounts of violence from inmates. He said any inmate who might have heard the power tools used in the escape wouldn't dare say anything.

"Let me be clear: That will get you killed. That's the kind of environment it is," O'Donnell said. "You can't expect people to behave like Catholic school monitors."

While investigators try to protect their prison sources, Day said word of any informants on a case as big as this one is likely to leak out."

 

[dotr]

"We have information that suggests they thought New York was going to be hot, that Vermont would be cooler in terms of law enforcement, and that a camp might be a better place to be than New York," Shumlin said.

"This is not time to panic," Shumlin said to his fellow Vermonters. "It is a time to be responsible. If you see suspicious people, don't go near them, call law enforcement."

He said Vermont residents should "lock your doors, make sure you are vigilant. Let's work together to get these two dangerous men locked up once again."
rbbm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rk-prison-escape-seamstress-killers/71000228/

 

[CARIIS]

The killers' mugshots have been put on more than 50 digital billboards in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania, according to State Police, and a $100,000 reward has been posted. Law enforcement officials asked the public to report anything out of the ordinary.

"We don't want them out searching the woods," Favro said. "But if you're sitting on your porch, get your binoculars out and see if you see something unusual."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/06/10/us/ap-us-escaped-prisoners-the-latest.html?referrer=

Hi Trigger my dear!! the binnoculars are quite scary and creepy - I would prefer to know nothing - I would freak if I thought I saw em!!!!!!!!!!!Something about locking my door with a chap who cuts up people just does not feel like I am taking menaingful precautions if they have a need!

 

[cpaul]

There was a former inmate on the news last night and it said it was so loud in there at night with radios blasting that nothing would be heard. TIFWIW

 

[cpaul]

There's big money on them...I would not doubt persons in the woods looking for them.

 

[southernmimi]

They'll be caught soon enough, because they'll commit another crime. Sadly, someone else will be harmed by them. What's most puzzling to me is why anyone, knowing their violent background, would help them escape.

 

[CARIIS]

http://news.yahoo.com/prison-break-spotlights-code-silence-behind-bars-182016803.html

"The 170-year-old, 3,000-inmate prison has a particularly notorious reputation, singled out in a watchdog report last year for a higher rate of violence among inmates than most New York state prisons.

State Assemblyman Daniel O'Donnell, who is chairman of the Corrections Committee and visited Clinton last September, said he was astounded by the accounts of violence from inmates. He said any inmate who might have heard the power tools used in the escape wouldn't dare say anything.

"Let me be clear: That will get you killed. That's the kind of environment it is," O'Donnell said. "You can't expect people to behave like Catholic school monitors."

While investigators try to protect their prison sources, Day said word of any informants on a case as big as this one is likely to leak out."

All along I found it amusing that media is so befuddled - wound drilling not make noise - of course it will. These are not law abiding folks, I worked in a prison, they all make there choices, however there is a us vs them belief system. Everyone who heard all the noises, for however long, were secretly smiling, wishing them the best. IMO in daytime, encouraging them - its a them vs us mentality - even if your not gonna escape - your rooting for , lack of a better word (!) collegues who are gonna try to bust out !

Media is like how could they not be heard - they wre heard, day after day, and rooted onward and outward IMO!