"I don't think she said that," Graswald's attorney Richard Portale told ABC News today. "I think if she said it, it would be memorialized. They would have it on video, but I don't think she said it."
Previous thread I had hoped LE taped their questioning of her to support what's being said - from the above appears they did not. If I'm on the jury, that's not good, and it raises doubt.
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I prefer to wait for real testimony.
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The whole life jacket thing seems kind of strange by itself. Most everyone I have ever seen in a kayak always wears one. Kayaks are not like regular boats and so wearing a life jacket is not really optional when kayaking. So I am wondering why the man didnt have his with him.
Why would he even go out in a Kayak on the Hudson in choppy cold water without a life jacket on? Something sounds fishy about that.
That area where they were is a very wide area of the Hudson. Its a nice scenic area of the river.
Not to mention that our state law requires wearing a life vest on any boat/personal watercraft under 21 feet from Nov 1 through May 1. I can't imagine that he was unaware of the law. I think it's possible, but not probable.
If I am repeating many apologies ( need to finish reading thread 1).....I think HIPPA extends to media not to LE and it would be in relation to her case so unless someone at the hospital talks (possible someone may ) its not likely we are going to find out anything pre-trial.
I also agree that there was pre-mediation here ..... motive is always a little confounding I think. If its just about insurance money she can kiss that good bye----and if his sexual tastes were not to her liking, then why stay with him and agree to marry him ? She isnt a child and to quote Mama Cawfee "has been around the block a few times".
Has her family spoken out at all ??? I would think a family member would come to the US and offer support.
Gitana or anyone else who is familiar with the court process,
The next step is the preliminary hearing. If I understand right, this is where the DA has to show the strength of his case and what evidence he has. Does he have to present every piece of evidence and all witnesses he has at this time? Will this be when he has to stop holding things close to the vest so to speak? Or can he release just enough information that convinces the judge he has a case? Just curious. If he can hold things back, what would be the benefit?
LE usually tapes all formal interviews I think so I would hope they would have the questioning of her on tape as evidence. Either audio or video with audio would do.
If they dont have that, I agree it will raise doubt and would essentially be a
he said/she said with the police VS the defense in what was said.
Irregardless of the interviews there are some things that dont make sense to me with her actions.
Like how come she did not try to get close enough with her boat to let him hang on. Or why didnt she throw him her life jacket since she was comfortably in her kayak.
Any eye witnesses from the rescuers will be helpful too.
If it is like was claimed where they said she pretty much just jumped in the water as they approach then that has me thinking this is not looking good for her.
The sheer fact that she was close enough to jump in the water tells me she could have done much more before the rescuers got there if she was that close to him.
This just smells right now. It smells as bad as the eels in the Hudson if they still have eels like I remember from a long time ago. LOL
Not a kayaker, but my guess would be that you are taught to NOT take off your life jacket and attempt to give it to someone in trouble, as it would then put two people at risk as opposed to one.
Life vests are optional when kayaking. You may always choose to wear one, just like I always choose to wear a seat belt, but they are not attached to the kayak. Because they are not attached to the kayak, who is to say his was not forgotten at home? Sometimes people get complacent and think because there has never been and issue previously, why should this time be any different.
No one but AG knows how close she got to VV. Who is to say she didn't try to pull him onto her kayak or have him grab a paddle.
Hypothermia can cause people to do extremely strange things. If she had already been in the water before help arrived, she may have gone back in once they got there as a reaction to hypothermia.
I'm not sure which way this case could go, but I also know that it is no slam dunk for the prosecution!
Friends of Vinny say he never, ever, ever would have gone out into the river without a life jacket on because he was an outdoorsman and he respected the outdoors and understood that anything at any time could happen. So they thought that was very odd, that he had no life jacket on bit she did. http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1505/04/ng.01.html
His friends are to say. They say he was diligent and never would've kayaked without a life jacket:
Despite what the friends say, I don't find that odd at all and I also don't think it points to her guilt (if she is, in fact, guilty).
I think it is possible they were drinking that night. I also think it is possible that he forgot his life vest and chose to go without it for whatever reason. I don't know why he would do that but I think it is likely.
He also wore neither a wet nor dry suit and his kayak itself was said by other kayakers to be ill-suited for Hudson conditions. Add that to no personal flotation device and his status as a responsible outdoorsman sags a bit. Graswald's to blame for all this though, I suspect?
She seems the very stereotype of the mysterious woman from a foreign culture, come to these shores to bewitch and destroy our menfolk doesn't she. And flaunting convention that way later, positively the shrew. Or at least that's the xenophobic subtext of much of what I'm reading here.