OH - 10 killed including Gunman, 16 injured, Mass Shooting, Oregon District, Dayton, 4 Aug 2019 #2

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The Betts family one week earlier offered “their most heartfelt prayers and condolences to all of the victims, their families and friends” in a statement read on their behalf by Bellbrook Police Chief Doug Doherty.

Now, Moira and Stephen Betts have composed obituaries and provided dozens of family photos of their only children, 22-year-old Megan and 24-year-old Connor, at Bellbrook’s Conner & Koch Funeral Home website.

It’s unclear when the services were scheduled.

Dayton Shooting: Betts family plans services for 2 children

Megan "Baby Chica" Betts Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information

Connor Betts Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information

Well that CB Obituary feels kind of uncomfortable. I understand that the parents will remember some good things about him, but it is SO silent on how he died.

Also, not one mention of Jordan Cofer in 'Megan's' obituary.
 
So the friend who helped with the gun did acid DAILY??? DAILY??? That has to be one extremely fried brain, right there. Unless acid has changed. Woah. Yet he's not the one who did the killin'. Go figure.
 
Did the Dayton gunman target his sister? Police can't agree

One of the first victims struck by the Dayton shooter during his 32-second rampage that left nine people dead was his younger sister, but whether he intentionally killed her remains unknown more than a week later, the Ohio city's police chief said.

Investigators have "radically different views" on whether Connor Betts targeted his 22-year-old sister, Megan, two hours after they arrived with a friend at a popular strip of nightclubs, Chief Richard Biehl said at a news conference.


Did the Dayton gunman target his sister? Police can't agree

Imo, CB fully intended to kill Jordan/Megan, for what reasons I can only guess, the other explanation would be CB wanted Jordan/Megan to be a witness to the atrocity he was about to commit, so I'm leaning more towards he was an intended target.

With regards to these mass killings motivating another person, just yesterday in Sydney, 21 yr old Mert Ney stabbed a young woman to death, stabbed another lady in the main streets of the CBD and was threatening others before he was taken down by several brave bystanders armed with a chair, axe and a crate. Ney is known to police and was charged with weapons offences in April and recently domestic violence incident involving his sister, he has a history of mental illness.


Extremist material, including references to the Christchurch mosque shootings and US gun violence, was discovered on a USB drive belonging to Ney.

Counter-terrorism expert Greg Barton urged people not to assume the attack was terror-related.
Mr Barton said other terror attacks can trigger other violence, even if the ideology of the attackers are not shared.
"We have seen men who are very angry," he said.
"That is an increasing problem. Terrorist attacks can inspire other people to act even though they don't share the ideology.


Accused Sydney rampage stabber was reported missing by family
 
I watched all 45 minutes of today's press conference.

In the 60 minutes before the killings, CB had a quick phone call with his sibling, and exchanged several texts.

CB was told that his sibling and friend will be at the taco stand near Ned Peppers around 1AM.

CB aimed many early shots at the taco stand, killing his sibling and injuring his friend.
 
Well that CB Obituary feels kind of uncomfortable. I understand that the parents will remember some good things about him, but it is SO silent on how he died.

Also, not one mention of Jordan Cofer in 'Megan's' obituary.
And neither sibling is mentioned in the other’s obituary. I guess there is no right way to do this.
 
Dayton gunman Connor Betts might NOT have intended to kill his sister Megan | Daily Mail Online

Aug 13, 2019

  • In a Tuesday press conference, Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl released a detailed timelines of events of the night that 24-year-old Connor Betts killed nine
  • Investigators remain divided over whether he intentionally set out to kill his sister Megan or not, believing his view to be obscured when he first opened fire
  • Officials say Betts also wounded 17 others – three more than was initially reported by authorities in the shooting’s wake
  • The police chief refused to conclusively answer whether Betts was under the influence of drugs at the time of the attack but said he was a user of drugs
  • Authorities added the immediate motivation behind the shooting - its timing and the location chosen - is not known, and may never be known
During a Tuesday press conference, Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl released a detailed timeline of events of the night that 24-year-old Betts killed nine in a rampage outside Ned Peppers bar on August 3.

Text messages show Connor Betts knew roughly where his 22-year-old sister Megan was when he first opened fire, but what’s not known is whether he could specifically see her standing under an umbrella at a taco stand.

'If we can’t seem to make that call conclusively — that we’re divided about how, whether that was intentional or not — I think it’s inconclusive,' Biehl said.

According to Biehl, Betts, his sister, and their mutual friend, Charles Beard, arrived at the Oregon District and parked in the lot behind Thai 9 at 11:04pm.

All three of them entered a bar called Blind Bob’s where they remained together until 12:14am on Sunday morning.

At this time, Betts left Blind Bob’s and went to Ned Peppers where he would stay for around 30 minutes, before returning to his car by himself at 12:44am.

Betts was seen on CCTV camera loitering around the vehicle for around eight minutes. He was seen looking at items inside his trunk, gathering them into a backpack and changing into a dark hooded sweatshirt.

As he walked away from the car, Betts could be seen carrying a black backpack, walking back towards Blind Bob’s through a darkened side alley.

In the shadowed walkway, Betts hid for around nine minutes, where police believe he was reassembling his assault rifle, which they say was broken down in the bag.

Moments later, Betts was seen running out from the walkway and began shooting at 1:05am, initially killing three people stood near a taco truck outside Blind Bob’s.

The gunman then started running down 5th street, firing his weapon as he ran, before crossing the street and killing several more people, Dayton police said.

[...]

They added that the gunman was ‘very familiar with the Oregon District’ and appeared to be acting alone.

The police chief refused to conclusively answer whether Betts was under the influence of drugs at the time of the attack, pending the outcome of a toxicology report.

Biehl did however admit that drug paraphernalia was found in the car, and said it's known the gunman was a drug user, though it’s unclear how frequent such use was.

[...]

ETHAN KOLLIE


On Friday, Betts’ friend Ethan Kollie was arrested on federal firearms charges accused of possessing a firearm while using or addicted to a controlled substance and falsely filling out a firearms application form.

Kollie also bought armor and a 100-round magazine for Betts, authorities said. But they said there was no evidence he knew what Betts planned.

Kollie will appear Wednesday in federal court. His attorney said he has been cooperating with investigators.

‘He was as shocked and surprised as everyone else that Mr. Betts committed the massacre,’ attorney Nick Gounaris said Monday.

In an interview with federal agents, Kollie said he had done hard drugs, marijuana and LSD with Betts several times a week between 2014 and 2015, the affidavit says. Still, prosecutors emphasized that Kollie did not intentionally help plan the shootings.

Prosecutors accused Kollie of lying about not using marijuana on federal firearms forms in the purchase of a pistol that wasn’t used in the shooting.

Possessing a firearm as an unlawful user of a controlled substance is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison. Making a false statement regarding firearms carries a potential maximum sentence of up to five years’ imprisonment.

Police have said there was nothing in Betts’ background to prevent him from buying the gun.

ETA:

Kollie, 24, is charged with an unrelated count of lying to purchase a gun for himself, authorities said Monday. He was arrested Friday and is being held in a Dayton jail.

Despite his history with drugs—including a 2013 guilty plea for marijuana possession—Kollie allegedly answered “no” to a question about unlawful drug use on a form he filled out to purchase a handgun in May.

Kollie allegedly told authorities he lied because if “he told the truth about his drug use, he would not be allowed to purchase a firearm,” the complaint said.

FBI: Dayton Gunman’s Friend Helped Stockpile Arsenal
 
I'm finding it hilarious that they're charging this other guy with failing to state that he smoked pot on a gun license application, which would have 100% guaranteed been approved anyways if he had done so. But the buying of a 100-clip magazine & body armor, no biggee.

He told authorities he lied because he new he would not be allowed to purchase a firearm. He obviously knows the law!

Despite his history with drugs—including a 2013 guilty plea for marijuana possession—Kollie allegedly answered “no” to a question about unlawful drug use on a form he filled out to purchase a handgun in May.

Kollie allegedly told authorities he lied because if “he told the truth about his drug use, he would not be allowed to purchase a firearm,” the complaint said.
 
Nope - you got that wrong (without a link).

He's been smoking weed DAILY for the last decade, and did acid with BC "four to five times a week" between 2014-2015.

Friend of Dayton Mass Shooter Charged with Illegally Purchasing and Possessing Firearms
I was referring to someone else's post in this thread. Hence no msm link. Although, I'd have the same thoughts regarding acid "four to five times a week" lol

OH - 10 killed including Gunman, 16 injured, Mass Shooting, Oregon District, Dayton, 4 Aug 2019 #2
 
I watched all 45 minutes of today's press conference.

In the 60 minutes before the killings, CB had a quick phone call with his sibling, and exchanged several texts.

CB was told that his sibling and friend will be at the taco stand near Ned Peppers around 1AM.

CB aimed many early shots at the taco stand, killing his sibling and injuring his friend.
The governor of Ohio who visited pointed out in his first pressor that one of the saddest things that hit him the hardest was seeing food still on a food stand because the person working the both was shot and killed. I'm assumed it must have been this taco stand he was talking about.
 
Oregon District shooting: Gunman was at Ned Peppers prior to shooting

Shooter walks in front of police vehicle when leaving Ned peppers prior to getting his weapon, therefore he is aware of where police are located

At 7:41 in this video, it shows surveillance video of shooter walking down an alley with his backpack that he just got form his car. He puts something to his mouth and there is a vape cloud that follows behind him. So to me it appears he smoked something at that time.

He knows his sister and friend were at taco stand which he specifically shoots at. The first 3 fatalities occured at this lcoation. Not sure why there is question whether he targeted his sister and friend? You know someone is in a certain location and you shoot at that location.... uhhh?
 
Watching the full presser now. Here's the important points that I caught from it:

7 minutes prior to shooting beginning, friend texted CB that they were going to the taco stand.

EK that purchased the drum and vest for CB was not at location at time of shooting.

"The body armor because of the way it was worn was vulnerable, fortunately we were able to take advantage of this vulnerablity"

Body armor consisted of ballistic plates

Are you confident that the people who were hit by gunshots were not hit by police gun fire? That's something that the coroner is examining and is not complete.

Initial 3 victims were outside of blind bob's. "There was a victim completely on the south side of the street in front of the tumbleweed when everyone else is clustered on the other side of the street, so when that shot was fired was not clear for me" says police chief. Homicide detective states that "she was mobile, so she was shot and ran quite a ways. We're piecing that together"

Still no motivation for shooting known. FBI is looking into this

History of obsession of violence and interest in carrying out a mass shooting.

Tox screen takes 6 weeks to return. There was drug paraphernalia in the car. Later this was redacted and he stated he's not sure if the paraphernalia were found in the care or on the person.

Shooter was in orgeon district on friday night. Familiar with area.

9 min time frame shooter was off camera behind blind bobs was when shooter was assembling the pistol into a rifle. No one went back to where shooter was, no co-constipators. Weapon was disassembled in the backpack.

There was a damaged ejected round behind blind bobs that was not shot from the gun.

Not aware of a mental illness diagnosis but CB did have treatment but can not elaborate further.

On the patio of blind bobs there are umbrellas hanging down. Sister and friend were on the other side of the taco stand, there is question whether CB would have been able to see them. However it is clear that he knew they were there at that location. But uncertain if he could see them at time of shooting.

No indication sister or friend knew there were guns in the car. This is a conversation in progress however with CBs friend.

No indication on why CB and sister/friend separated.

17 people injured by gun fire, not 14 as previously thought.
 
The Betts family one week earlier offered “their most heartfelt prayers and condolences to all of the victims, their families and friends” in a statement read on their behalf by Bellbrook Police Chief Doug Doherty.

Now, Moira and Stephen Betts have composed obituaries and provided dozens of family photos of their only children, 22-year-old Megan and 24-year-old Connor, at Bellbrook’s Conner & Koch Funeral Home website.

It’s unclear when the services were scheduled.

Dayton Shooting: Betts family plans services for 2 children

Megan "Baby Chica" Betts Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information

Connor Betts Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information

Shooters obituary has been taken down.

Betts's obituary, published by the Conner & Koch Funeral Home, drew concern as many felt the tone did not reflect the actions that he had engaged in. It is quoted as claiming that Betts was "a funny, articulate and intelligent man with striking blue eyes and a kind smile" and does not mention the sister that he killed or the mass shooting that he perpetrated.[40] The obituary was later changed to a post in which the parents apologized for the insensitive presentation of their son in the initial obituary, and claimed that in their grief they had written about the son they knew and did not mean to reduce the horror of his "last act"
 
In the surveillance videos, there were 6 police officers shooting at CB from all directions. And you can see that there were many people running all around, and occasionally in front of police. I pray, pray, pray that none of those bullets were from a police officer. Really there was no other way to put down this guy that "out gunned" the police officers. I just hope for the officers sake and sanity they don't have to have that on their conscious.
 
Aliah Williamson WDTN on Twitter

Ethan Kollie in court for his detention hearing.Kollie waives his right to a preliminary hearing.The judge considers whether he is a flight risk or a danger to himself/others.A decision on where Kollie will be detained will be made Thurs @ 3:30
Credit:Artwork by Marlene Steele
 

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