OH OH - Brian Shaffer, 27, Columbus, 1 April 2006 - #4

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Does anyone here know if Brian was a fan of James Bond movies?
 
Below is a copy of the post. It was posted on April 14th. What I am curious about is how and when this guy heard about Brian. He specifically mentions a bar that just had some landscaping done. The only way that he would have know about this is if he walked by the place and noticed but not likely or frequented the bar. Within less than 14 days this guy took such an interest in Brian that he made a post about it and made a suggestion as to where his body might be.
If I am remembering correctly someone contacted Alexis on her blog and let her know about the post and she contacted CPD. They searched the area and obviously came up with nothing.
As I mentioned before this guy has a few emails and most are not registered and the rest are not active. I will not post any of the emails since this guy was never considered involved. Here is where it gets a little complicated. One of this guys email is associated with *advertiser censored*, particularly gay *advertiser censored* and a certain type of gay *advertiser censored* that matches this guys nationality. When I did a search for his other email I came up with stuff about gaming and this site. https://www.guitarplayer.com/miscellaneous/turtle-shell-vs-faux-turtle-shell-picks. A while back I had a computer tech guy look into Brian's email and he told me it was associated with gaming. Probably a coincidence but this seems to happen a lot.

"The idea that Brian is hanging with homeless folks is the most optimistic idea i have seen yet. I have been chronically homeless most of my life. In this situation, the call to my gf would be a "goodbye" till I got things sorted out. I would have spent a lot of time with my friends. I would have tried to have fun. And I would have left everything behind to start a new life. I probably would have walked a long ways. Maybe 60 miles at most. And then I would have considered transportation and what to do with my life. Have the authorities checked out all the methods of transportation? Greyhound Buses for example. Or.. Amtrack. 2nd idea... worse case scenario. What if there really is foul play? If there was foul play I would suspect staff at Ugly Tuna.. say Linda the bartender for example. Even his friend. I respect his friend saying that Brian does like to run his mouth off sometimes. If its true, I feel sorry for Brian. But would a good person even in the case of a missing person say that about someone they are supposed to be friends with? Maybe this friend was jealous over Brian's girl. Maybe Brian was having 2nd thoughts about his girlfriend? Maybe he was looking for comfort in a womans arms? Maybe the staff at Ugly Tuna was involved. Okay... thats disturbing i know. Question: If people are willing to look up and down campus streets and even under bridges and in rivers, would you consider this? There are some freshly planted trees in a very small construction site just one building north of Cousins Army. You could plant a body under those trees. My name is Brian and my email is wrknprgrss79@sbcglobal.net I would appreciate a response to my email or to even tell me if anyone is brave enough to look. Thankyou."

Posted by Brian | April 14, 2006 9:26 AM
 
This is somewhat OT and a little strange, but... I've seen photos of Brian with each of his parents. In both cases he has his left arm around the parent, and his right arm by his side. His right hand (in both cases) is making a sign of some sort - looks like either just his ring finger is curled up into his palm, or both his ring finger and middle finger. There's a third photo where he's seen with both parents, and he's also doing something odd with his right hand.

The ring-finger-only sign is a sexual hand sign; the ring and middle fingers both has a lot of interpretations.

At first I thought maybe he had a missing finger on that hand, etc., but there's a photo of him with his girlfriend where he's got his right hand front and center for the camera, and it looks normal.

You can see photos on True Crime Society blog post about the case, or Wikipedia.

Maybe it's just something he does reflexively when getting his photo taken, and it means nothing, but I thought it was strange.
 
This is somewhat OT and a little strange, but... I've seen photos of Brian with each of his parents. In both cases he has his left arm around the parent, and his right arm by his side. His right hand (in both cases) is making a sign of some sort - looks like either just his ring finger is curled up into his palm, or both his ring finger and middle finger. There's a third photo where he's seen with both parents, and he's also doing something odd with his right hand.

The ring-finger-only sign is a sexual hand sign; the ring and middle fingers both has a lot of interpretations.

At first I thought maybe he had a missing finger on that hand, etc., but there's a photo of him with his girlfriend where he's got his right hand front and center for the camera, and it looks normal.

You can see photos on True Crime Society blog post about the case, or Wikipedia.

Maybe it's just something he does reflexively when getting his photo taken, and it means nothing, but I thought it was strange.
 
Occam's Zebra said:
This is somewhat OT and a little strange, but... I've seen photos of Brian with each of his parents. In both cases he has his left arm around the parent, and his right arm by his side. His right hand (in both cases) is making a sign of some sort - looks like either just his ring finger is curled up into his palm, or both his ring finger and middle finger. There's a third photo where he's seen with both parents, and he's also doing something odd with his right hand.

The ring-finger-only sign is a sexual hand sign; the ring and middle fingers both has a lot of interpretations.

At first I thought maybe he had a missing finger on that hand, etc., but there's a photo of him with his girlfriend where he's got his right hand front and center for the camera, and it looks normal.

You can see photos on True Crime Society blog post about the case, or Wikipedia.

Maybe it's just something he does reflexively when getting his photo taken, and it means nothing, but I thought it was strange.
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I've never heard tell of that hand sign. What is it supposed to mean, exactly?
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I doubt whether Brian would have deliberately made a sexual sign while interacting with his parents.
 
Valiant said:
I think it's been stated here before, but I think he's making the "rock n roll" or "heavy metal" hand symbol, probably related to his love for Pearl Jam. Sometimes the thumb is in, others have it out when making this symbol.

Here's one on a tote bag, just oriented up while Brian's is pointed down.
"Heavy Metal Rock and Roll Metal Hand Sign" Tote Bag by printedkicks | Redbubble
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I agree, I've seen plenty of posted comments of him doing those signs and why.

I got lectured by one guy though who's into occult stuff the other week though. He's at my workplace and has been gone for an entire year, visiting 22 states, he works has a bartender. I couldn't wait to talk to him about Brian since I wanted to hear his opinion. He started off like, there must have been somewhere where they take out the trash, and relevent stuff like that. Then he said like, how old was he? 27. Show me a picture of the guy. Lol, in almost every1 Brian does the hand signs, he was like, get out of here, that guy is alive 100%. They helped him get away, restart his life. I was like ok....can I run through what happened...Evidently 27 is like a magic number in some circles, combined with those signs....
Load of crap all of it? Probably!!
 
One hand gesture can mean different things, depending on the local culture, or the context etc...
In Brian’s case, in these photographs, I think it’s simply American Sign Language for the word “love”.
 
So tonight I was watching a YouTube video about solved missing people cases. What I didn’t know was they were all about people who were found living under a different identity. One guy was found 30 years later. What shocks me is how these people were able to use someone else’s SS number for so long. The one guy who was found after 30 years had been arrested multiple times and they had no idea who he was. It just seems too easy to be able to do at least back then. I don’t think this is what Brian did but I do think if he wanted to he was smart enough to figure it out.
 
embufum said:
Not sure how many will remember this but a while ago I mentioned finding an old post about someone posting about Brian and him possibly being buried under some newly planted trees. This post was made about two weeks after he disappeared. At the end of the post he said his name was Brian. Well turns out his name really is Brian and was born in 1979. Can’t find much on this guy but at one point he did live not far from where Brian was supposedly seen by the United dairy. Not sure if he was living there at the exact time. He seems to have no family and moves around a lot. I’ll post more if I find anything.
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If you can't find it, it's hidden well!
 
Looking4Brian said:
IMO Puerto Rico needs a another look. I am very curious about his time there.
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Puerto Rico is really uncharted territory in this case still, who knows what went down there and what impact it had on him being there those months so close to his disappearance.
His mom got really sick, then he left for Puerto Rico. He must have come back around her passing, studied like hell, went out that night and *poof*.

13+ years and no clues I think there's sorta of an obligation to at least find out something more about it. I guess CPD didn't commit any resources looking into it.
Isn't it possible to reach out to someone there who can backtrack his stay over there, maybe check some things out? It's still American territory maybe "someone knows someone" over there.
 
Smiley IBI said:
If you can't find it, it's hidden well!
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LOL
Old Mozez said:
Puerto Rico is really uncharted territory in this case still, who knows what went down there and what impact it had on him being there those months so close to his disappearance.
His mom got really sick, then he left for Puerto Rico. He must have come back around her passing, studied like hell, went out that night and *poof*.

13+ years and no clues I think there's sorta of an obligation to at least find out something more about it. I guess CPD didn't commit any resources looking into it.
Isn't it possible to reach out to someone there who can backtrack his stay over there, maybe check some things out? It's still American territory maybe "someone knows someone" over there.
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I agree but it's been so darn long. I did identify one of the girls in the photo but I always figure if I can find out then CPD is most likely was ahead of me and probably already talked to all of them.
 
Old Mozez said:
Puerto Rico is really uncharted territory in this case still, who knows what went down there and what impact it had on him being there those months so close to his disappearance.
His mom got really sick, then he left for Puerto Rico. He must have come back around her passing, studied like hell, went out that night and *poof*.

13+ years and no clues I think there's sorta of an obligation to at least find out something more about it. I guess CPD didn't commit any resources looking into it.
Isn't it possible to reach out to someone there who can backtrack his stay over there, maybe check some things out? It's still American territory maybe "someone knows someone" over there.
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I’m working on it. I have a friend with lots of family in Puerto Rico that are going to help me. I know for certain that Brian was in Puerto Rico multiple times from 2003-2005. Some trips being extensive stays. CPD investigated everything they could, but PR didn’t get the look it should have. I know John wasn’t allowed to go there personally while at CPD. I have my theories about PR, but I need to research more before I say anything.
 
Valiant said:
I think it's been stated here before, but I think he's making the "rock n roll" or "heavy metal" hand symbol, probably related to his love for Pearl Jam. Sometimes the thumb is in, others have it out when making this symbol.

Here's one on a tote bag, just oriented up while Brian's is pointed down.
"Heavy Metal Rock and Roll Metal Hand Sign" Tote Bag by printedkicks | Redbubble
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I 100% believe Brian was making the rock symbol with his hands. Actually I have found pictures of a friend and relative of Brian’s doing the same thing in separate pictures. Just out of curiosity I questioned one of them about it and they told me it meant rock n roll.
 
So I want to say right off that I think it's unlikely that this photo is of Brian. I'm posting it for two reasons. First, when I saw this pic it was thumbnail size and my first reaction was wow I've never seen another beach pic of Brian. Second, this pic as far as I can find out was taken in Italy and a while back I traced an IP address to Italy which I think was mentioned on here before. I am impressed with the features of this guy, the eye brows, nose, lips, eyes and even the creases around his mouth. The beard pattern even matches but the ears don't seem to be a match. This guy is obviously older, my guess would be 40 give or take a couple years. I looks like this man maybe dyes his hair. Just thought this was interesting since IMO this is the first photo I personally thought could pass for an older Brian.
 

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embufum said:
So I want to say right off that I think it's unlikely that this photo is of Brian. I'm posting it for two reasons. First, when I saw this pic it was thumbnail size and my first reaction was wow I've never seen another beach pic of Brian. Second, this pic as far as I can find out was taken in Italy and a while back I traced an IP address to Italy which I think was mentioned on here before. I am impressed with the features of this guy, the eye brows, nose, lips, eyes and even the creases around his mouth. The beard pattern even matches but the ears don't seem to be a match. This guy is obviously older, my guess would be 40 give or take a couple years. I looks like this man maybe dyes his hair. Just thought this was interesting since IMO this is the first photo I personally thought could pass for an older Brian.
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It's hard to compare the eyes because in the beach photo the man is squinting against the sun. I agree that the resemblance of nose, beard pattern, brows, lips and face shape to Brian's photos is striking. I suspect hair coloring too - the hair looks even darker than Brian's.
 
janewall said:
It's hard to compare the eyes because in the beach photo the man is squinting against the sun. I agree that the resemblance of nose, beard pattern, brows, lips and face shape to Brian's photos is striking. I suspect hair coloring too - the hair looks even darker than Brian's.
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Yeah there’s a lot of shadow on the lower half of this guys face also. I’m glad someone else sees it too, but sometimes people resemble someone in one photo and then they look nothing like that person in another. If I can find out who this I’ll def post it. It would be great if it was Brian but I don’t think it’s likely at all.
 
We have discussed the homeless man in Mexico a couple of times here. I have kept quiet that CPD feels it could be Brian. About 2 months ago a lady contacted me about the flyer I released trying to locate the homeless man. She located him and started communicating with him. He said his name is Brian. I’m not saying it’s Brian Shaffer, but it needs looked into. Channel 10 News in Columbus will have a segment on at 11 about Brian and this tip.
 
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