GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #6

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http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=942991#.UikkGBG9KSO

An official autopsy is scheduled for Friday morning, but Patrick said that it may take several weeks to definitely determine the identity of the remains. However, Patrick said his office may be able to speed the process up with help from the state.

Sources at the scene in east Toledo, where box was recovered, said the evidence was taken from inside a detached garage at 704 Federal Street. The home is the former residence of Steven King, the ex-boyfriend of Elaina's mother, Angela Steinfurth, and has already been previously searched by Toledo Police and federal officials several times.

(I'm so confused...)
 
Omg I just heard the news about baby Elaina and I am just sick. I am so so sorry for the family who loved poor Elaina. My hearts and prayers go out to you and big hugs. My heart breaks for you.
 
Just saw this on Nancy Graces FB page. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family at this time. How effing sad. :(
 
Nancy Grace just gave this news on HLN andn I fereaked out. HLN says press conference in 2 hrs...Who knows. Ferret Mommy--I'm praying for you and your entire family now. I don't even know if I
spelled your name correctly--I'm so upset I am shaking
 
The papers are the girls SS cards, birth certificates with their footprint on them, and I'm not sure what else. He totally stabbed Terry Sr. right through his heart and he is completely devastated. Myself, as far as how he was treating me, well, let's just say it wasn't the first time. I was mostly worried about my dad. He's had heart surgery and also had a stroke just a couple years ago. I was afraid my mom would have to take him to the hospital!

Praying for you guys sweetie!! :blowkiss:

icu nurse! Welcome!!! :blowkiss:
 
http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=942991#.UikkGBG9KSO

An official autopsy is scheduled for Friday morning, but Patrick said that it may take several weeks to definitely determine the identity of the remains. However, Patrick said his office may be able to speed the process up with help from the state.

Sources at the scene in east Toledo, where box was recovered, said the evidence was taken from inside a detached garage at 704 Federal Street. The home is the former residence of Steven King, the ex-boyfriend of Elaina's mother, Angela Steinfurth, and has already been previously searched by Toledo Police and federal officials several times.

(I'm so confused...)

I wonder if they put her somewhere first and then once everything died down moved her back to the garage (since it was already searched before) thinking that they wouldn't go back. I wonder if someone talked?

And FerretMommy my thoughts and prayers go out to your family.
 
I'm new. I'm about to make a few posts, and share my thoughts on this case (which I didn't hear about until Monday, and I've spent literally every waking moment outside of work catching up on).

I've read every post, and the first thing I need to say is Thank You.

I've been with this for 5 days. I'm sad and angry and confused and doubting humanity. Many of you have been here for 10 weeks, and I can't begin to imagine what that's been like.


It's a thank you to WS itself for existing.

It's a thank you to the mods, your tireless efforts in keeping this site "safe" - preventing it from becoming a tool in thwarting justice. Some may feel the rules are cumbersome and stringent, but they do have value.

I was really touched that you also go to all the effort of maintaining a different thread so that family can stay up to date without having to see speculation - I'm a huge believer that the mind can only contemplate what it's capable of handling. Your own worst case scenario thoughts are challenging enough - but add into that mix the worst case scenarios from a variety of people from different backgrounds and different walks of life - (which is one of the reasons why WS is magnificent - so many different angles, opinions and insights) could be quite hard to bear.

So thankyou for that. Someone's signature here is that we are all one bad decision away from ending up a thread on here rings true, and I'm really really touched that the extra effort is made to protect, but still inform family and friends.

To the members - for being civil, intelligent, and not afraid to admit when you're wrong, or incorporate and analyse new facts when they come to light. That you can respectfully disagree and still work towards the common goal of finding the missing! For giving your hearts and thoughts to a stranger. For loving her from afar.

The best way I can articulate my amazement is if I wrote it into a job description.

HELP WANTED
Responsibilities: Fall in love with a child you've never met.
Disseminate and demystify information from a variety of sources, ensuring to stay out of legal grey zones.
Bear witness to the best and worst of humanity.
Be haunted by her picture. Dream of her. Think her name every few minutes or hours.
Pay - zero.
Time commitment - at least 12 weeks. Emotional commitment: lifetime.


There are not many people who would take that job. But you all do, time and time again.


The tireless mapping, timelines, verifying things for newcomers who haven't read all the previous posts (and I must say on Monday I didnt anticipate it taking this long to get caught up - so I understand why some don't) the prayers, the care love and support to the family.

There are too many people to name individually, but thank you nonetheless. I don't want to miss anyone here so I won't try to name names but I need to give a special shout out to GGE with the transcriptions. I'm on the other side of the world. Geo-restrictions prevent live streaming and shows don't air here. Without your efforts my understanding would have enormous gaps and misconceptions.

And ACR for getting the official documents out there.

The "insiders" from the press, and the family - thank you for taking the time to be here too. Your contributions and clarifications are so important.

I have been lurking on WS for several years. There were a few high profile Aussie cases where threads on here helped fill in the gaps of MSM as Australian law has a great deal that is not publishable.

I've been back regularly recently, because I'm haunted by a photograph in MSM that relates to a NSW missing person. It's just a property photograph - it just resembles a dark dark place from my past - not clearly identifiable, but this hunch is there in my gut since April and I can't let go of it (even though my psychologist has told me to drop it, it's 99.9% unrelated and a bunch of properties would be the same.)

So I was checking for updates there. Trying to see if there is a little something more to make me make that call and not come across as a nutter. And I found this thread - and even though I haven't been here 10 weeks - not even 10 days - it's the case that made me join. And I will see it through until Elaina is home.


I've got a late/ early so I might not get through all I want to say before the need for sleep claims me, but at the very least this is a bump for a little girl who has already claimed a part of my heart.

What a wonderful post!! God bless you! :seeya:
 
I'm so sorry sweet little Elaina. :heartbeat:
 
I can't imagine ever coming back here after this. Elaina & Dylan (Redwine) have just devastated me. I'm an atheist but I suddenly hope there is a hell and that Angela & Mark will have very special spots there. How do parents do this?

I couldn't have made it through my ordeal, without the support of my WS friends. Please don't leave! You can still help bring other's home! WS needs you! It's very hard, but making a difference can be very rewarding.
 
I wonder if they put her somewhere first and then once everything died down moved her back to the garage (since it was already searched before) thinking that they wouldn't go back. I wonder if someone talked?

And FerretMommy my thoughts and prayers go out to your family.

It sounds very much like Steven King talked.

For folks just coming to the thread after Nancy Grace (I guess?) it sounds like SK met with LE for several hours today, then LE went to his house, came out with a box under a tarp. The coroner has confirmed human remains. Sources say it was a "computer box". There is lots of SM speculation that they already know it's Elaina but I don't see how they can have definitely identified her yet. :/ But it does seem likely.

It also sounds like TJ and Terry Sr came to the house when they were gathering the remains, and there was a scuffle, not sure with whom, but TJ might have had words with the police. (See twitter feed I linked above,)
 
How was this missed? I just can't believe that the box was recently put there and if it was why weren't they watching things closer? It is the most obvious place to look. I have a feeling that the box was there all along but well hidden, maybe in a crawl space.
 
It says it's a "detached" garage, I wonder how well finished it was, if they could have gotten under the flooring to dig or something. Just can't think how no one smelled decomp when they were having vigils right outside.
 
This is the twitter of a reporter for the Blade so I think it counts as MSM.

https://mobile.twitter.com/taylordungjen/tweets

If you read back through the past several hours you can see some details about the fight mentioned earlier.
Link not working for me.

I do think King talked. I don't think it was a coincidence that he was with detectives when they got a warrant to search the residence again.
As angry as I am with this news I find it appalling if he was the one that told where precious Elaina was and even her own mother wasn't loving enough to share it, and yes I think she knows all and was there and part of it.

Ferretmommy, cherubcollector and family, thinking of all of you during this emotional storm. Hugs and we're still here for you.

MOO
 
Oh. My. God. Please hold the family in your hand right now. FM and CC: I am so sorry.

Heart is so heavy at this moment.

Filling with so much hate and anger towards AS & SK and his family.
God forgive me, I hope they are so haunted from this moment forward and that they never experience a second of peace while in this world.

Not one second.
 
Link not working for me.

I do think King talked. I don't think it was a coincidence that he was with detectives when they got a warrant to search the residence again.
As angry as I am with this news I find it appalling if he was the one that told where precious Elaina was that even her own mother wasn't loving enough to share it, and yes I think she knows all and was there and part of it.

Ferretmommy, cherubcollector and family, thinking of all of you during this emotional storm. Hugs and we're still here for you.

MOO

(The twitter link works on my iPad; can also just search twitter for @taylordungjen.)
 
Oh no! How horrible! :(
In way, I hope the remains are that of Elaina. I know that sounds bad, but at least FM and the rest of the Steinfurth family will have some sort of closure/answers.

How could AS/SK just toss that sweet little baby away like she was trash?
 
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