OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #54

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Dudly said:
So this covers Jake's a s s if he really did run his mouth....My take on it.....

Exactly why that was said...
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It won't cover Jake in any way, due to the amendment filed in his motion 5 on April 4 2019, posted on previous page. Anything he has said to an inmate or anyone since the signing of this document is null and void. He knew better as of this date and was told. This makes recent comments of his usable against him. Go Jake, talk all you want.
 
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Loomis124 said:
I sure hope Judge Deering rules AGAINST this. There is no reason the 4 defenses cannot figure this Discovery out. They are only stalling and making mountains out of mole hills.

Now. When it comes to the Bruce Dailey files, which sound like a total disorganized nightmare, the Court may have to pay someone $5k to sit down with him and AC and find out what the heck went own between him and JW. JMO
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Yes! I think we are seeing defense stalling tactics. Let's make the evidence confusing! Jury won't get it without spending $80,000 +

The Daily Files -- disorganized nightmare (very funny description) and to just pay to straighten those out would really be much more cost effective.

I wanna be careful I don't read too much into things and to say it's just my opinion but in court today or yesterday or both, Tony looked upset, frustrated, tired of waiting?
These delays by the defense are really adding up and if we are impatient it is 10 x's worse for the families.

So another defense stalling going on is Canepa said she sent the defense the latest or rest of the discovery they wanted but had heard they "may not" have received it. The defense said nothing...Humm....So she said "if" they did not get it she will resend it. What? Lost in the mail?...o_O

Sounds like muddying the H20's....:confused:

PS...Yes too late if Jake talked but his attorneys are trying to do damage control if he did....Opinion....I wouldn't be surprised if an inmate or previous inmate gets to give a sworn statement, but not sure how admissable? I mean they are trying to throw out good evidence already, they would do the same to an inmate's sworn testimony.
 
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Cool Cats said:
Yes! I think we are seeing defense stalling tactics. Let's make the evidence confusing! Jury won't get it without spending $80,000 +

The Daily Files -- disorganized nightmare (very funny description) and to just pay to straighten those out would really be much more cost effective.

I wanna be careful I don't read too much into things and to say it's just my opinion but in court today or yesterday or both, Tony looked upset, frustrated, tired of waiting?
These delays by the defense are really adding up and if we are impatient it is 10 x's worse for the families.

So another defense stalling going on is Canepa said she sent the defense the latest or rest of the discovery they wanted but had heard they "may not" have received it. The defense said nothing...Humm....So she said "if" they did not get it she will resend it. What? Lost in the mail?...o_O

Sounds like muddying the H20's....:confused:

PS...Yes too late if Jake talked but his attorneys are trying to do damage control if he did....Opinion....I wouldn't be surprised if an inmate or previous inmate gets to give a sworn statement, but not sure how admissable?
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‘This is MOO but why the world would you NOT send something like this by certified mail w/ receipt request or by currier? I would think you would want to CYA on something this important. (Roll eyes & headbang)
 
Merrygirl said:
‘My best guess is they are law students doing field work.
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Then why can't they help organize the discovery documents instead of asking for a
specialist costing $80,000 + ?

There must be dozens of law students out there who would love to sit around in a
"study group" and organize discovery evidence into spreadsheets on their laptops and also confer with each other. Sorry, don't mean to over think it.
 
Merrygirl said:
‘This is MOO but why the world would you NOT send something like this by certified mail w/ receipt request or by currier? I would think you would want to CYA on something this important. (Roll eyes & headbang)
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Maybe sent through email? I thought snail mail but maybe I'm wrong. I will re-listen but it wasn't clear. But your right about verifying a delivery by COD.

Ha! Wait, that is cash on delivery! I meant certified mail, yikes...
 
Hello everyone, it is great getting back and caught up with everything regarding this case. Like a lot of you, the pace at which all of this is moving upsets me. Watching all the videos of the latest Wagner hearings, and understanding what these attorneys are trying to do, really makes me feel good. These people know what they are in for. Jake tries to hold on to it, and be so smiley. But he knows. Billy will never call Judge Deering “Your Honor”. Or even stand in court in a respectful manner. Because he knows. The lawyers, they are putting the money in their bank accounts, so they know what they have to do. But they know, too. They all know what evidence has most likely been found. What phone calls were being listened to. What recording devices caught them talking about everything. I am over wanting to know all the details. It is too obvious, this is a waste of time and money. I just hope little Ruger and Kylie are with people who love them and treat them preciously.
 
Loomis124 said:
Not now. But I do think they did early on and Jakey spilled his bragging guts to the confidential informant/inmate at that time. Too late to undo that now. There is a follow-up document that was done during JW's hearing on April 4 concerning this matter. @Ohioblues, if you have, will you please post? TY

I posted it below.
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I know nothing about this. I have never heard anything about this either.
 
Freddy AD said:
Hello everyone, it is great getting back and caught up with everything regarding this case. Like a lot of you, the pace at which all of this is moving upsets me. Watching all the videos of the latest Wagner hearings, and understanding what these attorneys are trying to do, really makes me feel good. These people know what they are in for. Jake tries to hold on to it, and be so smiley. But he knows. Billy will never call Judge Deering “Your Honor”. Or even stand in court in a respectful manner. Because he knows. The lawyers, they are putting the money in their bank accounts, so they know what they have to do. But they know, too. They all know what evidence has most likely been found. What phone calls were being listened to. What recording devices caught them talking about everything. I am over wanting to know all the details. It is too obvious, this is a waste of time and money. I just hope little Ruger and Kylie are with people who love them and treat them preciously.
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Well said.
You say Billy doesn't say "your honor," I'll have to go back and listen to him in court.

K&R are being raised together by their aunt who adores them. Also, K is being raised with her bio dad, and the kids have involved grandparents.

Tony R went to talk with B's grandma, B is Frankie's older son who lives with his mother.
Tony said he wanted to have a close relationship with B and he wanted to see how grandma felt. She said he will always be family and they will not be apart. Tony is stepping up to be a father figure it looks like.

The question is about the 2 Wagner children, their dads have not been convicted so I think they still have parental rights to communicate with them. I just want for them what the other kids have, stable forever homes and relationships with extended family.

We shouldn't talk about the kids, I am only saying what has been reported in MSM. Tony and B's mom and a few of the grandparents have talked to MSM about the kids.

Pike County: 'That's all we've got left. Just those kids.'
 
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Cool Cats said:
Then why can't they help organize the discovery documents instead of asking for a
specialist costing $80,000 + ?

There must be dozens of law students out there who would love to sit around in a
"study group" and organize discovery evidence into spreadsheets on their laptops and also confer with each other. Sorry, don't mean to over think it.
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‘I totally agree but I figure some law offices don’t contract with colleges and/or not the same colleges. Also some of these defense lawyers are from areas OTHER THAN Columbus. I know @ least one does services in Meigs/Gallia & Lawrence Counties. Don’t get me wrong, I still believe they should be responsible for doing their own organization. If the State could supply an individualized list of what was sent to the defense then each office needs to do their own organization & notify the State that they didn’t receive it. I understand the Defense has other cases but that is their problem, not the State’s imo. I worry that the Defense may use it as an ‘ineffective council” to appeal. That’s why I would think AC would also want her bases covered by keeping records of what was sent and to whom/when. IANAL/IMOO
 
I know that the video from the hearing (GW3) said:


....judge talked about if the defense had any complaints the defense wants to have regular meetings with Wagner not telecom also the judge wants everybody ready for March 13th meeting on discovery.

But the court site has a 4/15 court hearing next. Just correcting this if someone is keeping their calendar updated for this case.

Docket:
02/10/2020 RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS' MOTION FOR ORDER APPOINTING COORDINATING DISCOVERY ATTORNEY FILED
Attorney: JUNK, PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, ROBERT

02/11/2020 DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION FILED
Attorney: COLLINS, MARK C

02/11/2020 ENTRY GRANTING DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION FILED

02/11/2020 REQUEST AND JUDGMENT ENTRY FOR COURT-PAID EXPERTS AND/OR EXPENSES FILED

02/11/2020 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Judge: DEERING, RANDY D
Event: PRE-TRIAL
Date: 04/15/2020 Time: 01:30 PM

Events:
02/11/2020 01:30 PM PRE-TRIAL DEERING, RANDY D

04/15/2020 01:30 PM PRE-TRIAL DEERING, RANDY D

link: https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...Z1NutIA9AO2J9cWwwXpM0a5dohiNcOMyWwNDBSZLdh0Aw
 
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