OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #70

[Nanasteele]

Right at the end of last thread there was quote from an article about CRSR helping GR so much to get him clean and sober. But, BW used a ruse of a potential drug deal as a means to meet with CRSr in order to kill him.

I'm really afraid GW4's team is going to trash CRSR if any witness tries to say CRSR was a good guy. I cannot imagine how hard that is going to be for the surviving loved ones. Jmo

I am really not buying that CRSR was going to do a deal with BW! It would be hard to keep someone off drugs and they were living with you and you stashed them. Nah, I just don't believe it. They went there and started shooting from the front door! Sounds like CRSR put up a fight. I'm sure he would've had a gun ready just incase they started a fight again knowing that BW threated to shoot him before. CRSR was smart in that area I am sure! I don't think he would have dealings with them so they could prove the family not fit to have SR. I believe it was a nasty custody battle and all the Rhoden's made it clear it wasn't going to happen! Those poor babies way on my heart every time is read or hear the name Rhoden or Gilley! Praying those babies live health happy lives.

 

[Cool Cats]

Does anyone have the new link for the courtview records search they could post? Mine got deleted and i can’t locate the new ones .

https://cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov/eservices/home.page.2

 

[Cool Cats]

08/22/2022

SUBPOENA ISSUED ON RANDA HUGHES, RITA NEWCOMB, ROBERT WAGNER, JULIA WAGNER, KATY WAGNER, CHRIS NEWCOMB, ROBIN WAGNER & FREDERICKA WAGNER

 

[LMDlong]

https://cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov/eservices/home.page.2

Thank you.

 

[joe jones]

state may not call all the witnesses they subpoena, being under subpoena though means you cannot sit in court until you have testified and both sides agree your subpoena is spent, if one or both sides say your subpoena is not spent after testifying as you may be subject to recall then again you still can't sit in court, and you are not allowed to watch live court video, how they monitor that I don't know, may just rely on most people being law abiding and following the instructions of subpoena and court, but this case is very different as we have the Wagner family under subpoena and I am not sure they all will abide by the rules,

so neither mother of AW or BW will be able to sit in court until both sides say their subpoena is spent, is is usual (from what I have seen in previous trials) to allow victims close family members to sit in court even if they are subpoenaed,

 

[Fat Old Man]

Like Reader or dislike him. I believe Reader did more to solve this then anyone. Form saying it was someone local, who knew family. Calling BCI in from the start, and turning it over to them.
I am only saying if this was ME, getting a subpoena to testify. When I was given 3 years in prison, and the master mine from the largest murder case in Ohio, get a sweat heart deal like AW did. I would be one bad witness for the state.
I am not saying what he did was right, but 8 dead, and and the ring leader gets off with a chance to get out?
I still hope the prosecution, is better in the court room then what I seen so far.
I can only hope and pray, the story unravels very quickly. And all deals are off the table.

 

[Cool Cats]

Like Reader or dislike him. I believe Reader did more to solve this then anyone. Form saying it was someone local, who knew family. Calling BCI in from the start, and turning it over to them.
I am only saying if this was ME, getting a subpoena to testify. When I was given 3 years in prison, and the master mine from the largest murder case in Ohio, get a sweat heart deal like AW did. I would be one bad witness for the state.
I am not saying what he did was right, but 8 dead, and and the ring leader gets off with a chance to get out?
I still hope the prosecution, is better in the court room then what I seen so far.
I can only hope and pray, the story unravels very quickly. And all deals are off the table.

How do you think the prosecution could do better?

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Has anyone else thought that BW3 called CR about a drug deal that night but acted like he was someone else making the deal, and that was the reason for another unmarked vehicle and also Big Chris let his guard down???? JMO

 

[justtrish]

My heart aches for the families. What they are going to have to relive, more than they do everyday during the testimonies.

I hope for them that even though it will be difficult to relive and hear possibly the truth (or some version of it from Jake and Angela), I hope that seeing these evil people held accountable and put away for life gives them a little more closure than they have now. Maybe they will speak at the end and get a chance to share how this has impacted them. I don't think for a minute that any of the 4 of them really even care, but sometimes being able to face the evil and speak truth helps or at least gives them one more piece that maybe can help them move forward.

 

[Cool Cats]

I hope for them that even though it will be difficult to relive and hear possibly the truth (or some version of it from Jake and Angela), I hope that seeing these evil people held accountable and put away for life gives them a little more closure than they have now. Maybe they will speak at the end and get a chance to share how this has impacted them. I don't think for a minute that any of the 4 of them really even care, but sometimes being able to face the evil and speak truth helps or at least gives them one more piece that maybe can help them move forward.

Be interesting to hear what the family says after the jury finds George guilty of murder plus some, if not all, of the other charges.​

Woman pleads guilty for role in 2016 killing of 8 members of Ohio ... - UPI​

"I see a woman with no sympathy, no remorse," a Rhoden relative said after the sentence, according to the Dispatch. "She's getting 30 years more than what our family gets."

Rhoden family murders: Tony Rhoden still grieving in Pike County

“People use the word monster a lot,” Tony Rhoden said. “And I looked at him and saw a monster.”

But, he said, he felt it when Jake Wagner choked up a couple of times during the hearing. And it made him wonder after all this time: What changed?

“He has held out for five long years. So many lies. So much pain. What clicked in his brain to say ‘I need to make this right?’” Tony wonders. "Maybe there's a human being under all that after all."

'So much pain': After Jake Wagner pleads guilty in …​

Tony Rhoden:

"Has there been healing? Not really. I don't feel like in 5 years it's gotten any easier. So many lives that were destroyed that day - not just those who were murdered but the lives of all the victims who were left behind. Yep. Alot of lives destroyed."

 

[Puzzles8]

Be interesting to hear what the family says after the jury finds George guilty of murder plus some, if not all, of the other charges.​

Woman pleads guilty for role in 2016 killing of 8 members of Ohio ... - UPI​

"I see a woman with no sympathy, no remorse," a Rhoden relative said after the sentence, according to the Dispatch. "She's getting 30 years more than what our family gets."

Rhoden family murders: Tony Rhoden still grieving in Pike County

“People use the word monster a lot,” Tony Rhoden said. “And I looked at him and saw a monster.”

But, he said, he felt it when Jake Wagner choked up a couple of times during the hearing. And it made him wonder after all this time: What changed?

“He has held out for five long years. So many lies. So much pain. What clicked in his brain to say ‘I need to make this right?’” Tony wonders. "Maybe there's a human being under all that after all."

'So much pain': After Jake Wagner pleads guilty in …​

Tony Rhoden:

"Has there been healing? Not really. I don't feel like in 5 years it's gotten any easier. So many lives that were destroyed that day - not just those who were murdered but the lives of all the victims who were left behind. Yep. Alot of lives destroyed."

I am predicting radio silence......

JMO

 

[Puzzles8]

08/22/2022

SUBPOENA ISSUED ON RANDA HUGHES, RITA NEWCOMB, ROBERT WAGNER, JULIA WAGNER, KATY WAGNER, CHRIS NEWCOMB, ROBIN WAGNER & FREDERICKA WAGNER

Wow, this really puts Fredericka Wagner between a rock and a hard place, she'll be under oath.

She still has her civil trial to look forward to. As well as previous charges that were dismissed without prejudice.


JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

I am predicting radio silence......

JMO

From the Wagner family yes. I meant the Rhodens. Tony speaks out in MSM interviews, USA Ohio Network for one, Chris Graves interviews, etc....

So no doubt he will, and probably some of the others, have something to say about what I predict will be George's guilty verdicts.

If anyone thinks he's getting acquitted I'd be interested in hearing why.

 

[Cool Cats]

Double

 

[Cool Cats]

Double

 

[Cool Cats]

Wow, this really puts Fredericka Wagner between a rock and a hard place, she'll be under oath.

She still has her civil trial to look forward to. As well as previous charges that were dismissed without prejudice.


JMO

She will have to be careful not to commit perjury. Quite a few Wagners getting subpoenas, very interesting. One thing I think will come out is testimony of how insular and clannish the 4 Wagner's were. How they did pretty much everything together.

Be super interesting to see what questions the prosecution asks them. No doubt Chris Newcomb will tell the jury about him helping George purchase the glock and George being called a glock man. And he was a witness who saw Jake and George with the hair dye and did the 3-way call for starters.

The prosecution needs witnesses to help bolster their case that the Wagner's
did everything together and voted on everything, so they will need the EX wife's testimony too.

Prosecutors can't just say "this is how the Wagners conducted their family life" they have to have these witnesses to prove it to the jury. Might also come out in Jake's and Angela's testimony.

 

[ohioexpat63]

Wow, this really puts Fredericka Wagner between a rock and a hard place, she'll be under oath.

She still has her civil trial to look forward to. As well as previous charges that were dismissed without prejudice.


JMO

 

[ohioexpat63]

I think itll be a heavy dose of

1. Under the advice of counsel invoke my 5th amendment riths against self incrimination

2. I dont recall

Jmo

 

[LMDlong]

From the Wagner family yes. I meant the Rhodens. Tony speaks out in MSM interviews, USA Ohio Network for one, Chris Graves interviews, etc....

So no doubt he will, and probably some of the others, have something to say about what I predict will be George's guilty verdicts.

If anyone thinks he's getting acquitted I'd be interested in hearing why.

will the victims families get to give impact statements at the end of the trials and if so who do you think will speak?

 

[Fat Old Man]

How do you think the prosecution could do better?

AW, would have got at least 40 years. Or no chance of being paroled. If Jake gave them the guns, and even half his story could have been proven. Let her go to trial, and prove she deserves to ever be out, to walk about freely. If she was the master mine to this killing. Why would she have received a deal? Granted we do not know all the evidence, but why make a deal with the Puppet master?