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Interesting, I remember that. Was Billy wearing women’s boots?I am curious about the size of the other two pair of boots in Discovery.
When one was described as a 9" zip women' swat boot, I just assumed it was a size 9 boot. Not so.
JMO
It wold be great if anyone could post all of the unredacted autopy's to the TIMELINE MEDIA thread for reference. The Timeline Media thread is a historical reference library of articles and timelines from this case. There are valuable timelines as well as old and recent articles chronicled there.Someone had asked about GR autopsy report a few pages back, let me know if you still need it and I can post it. Back to trying to get caught up on the thread.
I just did. For some reason I can't find GR's. I'm going to keep looking. I will add if I find it.It wold be great if anyone could post all of the unredacted autopy's to the TIMELINE MEDIA thread for reference. The Timeline Media thread is a historical reference library of articles and timelines from this case. There are valuable timelines as well as old and recent articles chronicled there.
TIA
LINK to TIMELINE MEDIA thread from the Rhoden/Gilley murder trials.
OH - 8 Family Members Murdered, Pike Co., Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*
https://local12.com/news/local/george-wagner-returns-to-court-for-motions-head-of-jury-selection-in-pike-county-angela-jake-billy-rhoden-gilley-massacre-custody-battle-conspiracy-kill- Video of hearing at link “Friday, Pike County Common Pleas Judge Randy Deering also overruled several defense...www.websleuths.com
This is what today's shoe expert said:d. He isn't some random person or distant relative. Intent is a huge part of thi
If you were on that jury you can bet you are listening only for evidence that pertains to George. I know we have lumped all of them in as the W4 for so long some of us are having a hard time separating George out from the other three. I am just keeping in mind the old saying "you are not your brothers keeper" or your fathers or mothers. So far I have seen them build a very solid case against Jake and Billy. I don't see Billy getting off.
But as for evidence on George, nothing.
i have considered the shoeprint evidence. Prosecution has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Circumstantial evidence alone won't do it. They have to conclusively put those shoes on George's feet that night at those scenes. At least one of them anyway. I don't see that happening. Too many variables in there.
1. George threw the shoes in the trash.
2. Billy wore one pair, jake wore the other.
3. Too many other people in the area bought that cheap brand of shoes at Walmart.
Keep in mind these are not a pair of custom made 2000.00 alligator loafers. They are not even a high end brand or a popular brand like NIKE.
I think they only way they will get a is if they have George in the vehicle with Billy and Jake that night on surveillance cameras. I am placing all my hope in that random house they took jurors to or the church they took them to as having cameras.
O/T I have some friends down in Florida in Ft Myers and Orlando who are getting hammered by hurricane Ian right now. Your thoughts for them are appreciated by me.
JMO
Agree. It was fairly early on for me and it was cinched by the interview JW did when he promoted his online fundraiser and said he picked up his daughter that day and reckoned he had missed it by hours. Angela later corrected his statement and said that he had picked up his daughter the day before.A cartel would not have gone to all 4 places IMO; in fact when the custody problems came out it was almost directly pointing at the Wagners and nobody else.
For me early... I felt I knew when I found out about JW picking up his child before it happened. Just knew he was involved and knew he would not have done it alone.
When did y'all start to home in on the Wagners?
A cartel would not have gone to all 4 places IMO; in fact when the custody problems came out it was almost directly pointing at the Wagners and nobody else.
For me early... I felt I knew when I found out about JW picking up his child before it happened. Just knew he was involved and knew he would not have done it alone.
When did y'all start to home in on the Wagners?
Agree. It was fairly early on for me and it was cinched by the interview JW did when he promoted his online fundraiser and said he picked up his daughter that day and reckoned he had missed it by hours. Angela later corrected his statement and said that he had picked up his daughter the day before.
DBM-replying to wrong post.I have to admit, for a long time I did not think it could be another “ family “ that did this horrible massacre for the reason of child custody. It made no sense.
That motive was way beyond my imagination.
Eventually I did see it as a possibility. And then finally a reality.
I remember that interview. But, I didn't know that AW corrected his statement. What did was she picked up; who was telling the truth about it?Agree. It was fairly early on for me and it was cinched by the interview JW did when he promoted his online fundraiser and said he picked up his daughter that day and reckoned he had missed it by hours. Angela later corrected his statement and said that he had picked up his daughter the day before.
What is the purpose of the different hair color... avoid media?
That was about a month after the murders I think... what color was it during the murders?
IMO-it was his natural hair color during the murders and he colored it after the murder becauses if LE found camera evidence and could tell hair color of the suspect(s), LE wouldn't think of him right away because his hair color would be different. They would have to dig deep (and very likely would), to figure out when he colored it. IMO-that was his way of thinking anyway.What is the purpose of the different hair color... avoid media?
That was about a month after the murders I think... what color was it during the murders?
IMO-they both look like pickup trucks to me. In the videos with the 2 vehicles close together anyway. I'm pretty sure the murder vehicle and CRSR's vehicle are both trucks.I can tell 1 of the vehicles in the pics is a truck... what about the others? Do we know?
I asked the same and was told it isn't evidence. IDKI am curious about the size of the other two pair of boots in Discovery.
When one was described as a 9" zip women' swat boot, I just assumed it was a size 9 boot. Not so.
JMO