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UPDATE: Prosecution, Jake Wagner's lawyers and GW4's lawyers all opposed allowing Jake Wagner to testify on camera or using audio. State and JW's lawyers said it creates a security risk for JW. "Snitches get Stiches", essentially.
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#GeorgeWagnerIV. This morning, Angie Canepa clarified that Sophia reportedly made allegations of sexual abuse by Jake Wagner's now ex-wife, Elizabeth, and Sophia later said she made it up because she felt like Jake was giving Elizabeth/Beth Anne more attention than she was getting. Jake confirms his brother told him Elizabeth shouldn't be living in the same house and suggested she needed to go
Jake said "We agreed she would move in with her friend in Nashville, she would get grants for college, go to med school and they would work on their relationship during the week b/c Jake's truck driving job took him through Nashville
Jake said he later learned that Elizabeth had wanted to leave the relationship permanently. He said despite Sophia saying she made it up, he was suspicious of Elizabeth. After she left, he said he received two emails and a phone call from her.
Jake said he learned later that BCI was behind the call from Elizabeth which he suspected. He said conversations he had with GW4 in 2018 in their truck were recorded and they suspected BCI was listening at the time
Jake said he remembers saying something like "I know you're listening, Ryan" in the truck -referring to Special Agent Ryan Scheiderer of BCI. He says he tried to avoid saying anything incriminating.
All of the sudden court stopped for a few minutes, bailiff Jason approached Judge Deering and they went into chambers for a few minutes. BCI and Dept. of Corrections agents scrambled around and we wondered what happened
Jake was moved to the back room. Then, Judge Deering came back in and it appeared the fire chief came in and looked around as testimony continued. Hearing rumbles about someone calling the fire dept about capacity
Jake said he knew BCI had confronted Rita Newcomb, his maternal grandmother, about the custody documents. Jake said he told Rita, Chris Newcomb and Randa Hughes they didn't have to talk to BCI.
Jake said "I know I didn't" when asked whether he told Rita to lie about signing the custody documents. Jake said he was aware Rita was going to say she signed the documents. That happened at Fredericka's home.
Jake said someone in his family initially paid for Rita's lawyer but he doesn't know who. He believe it was his mother.
Jake said he doesn't remember telling Elizabeth that he always wore boots and would never wear the ugly Wal-Mart gym shoes. He remembers the discussion in the truck with GW4 calling the gun list a "wish list.”
Jake said he remembers his brother receiving a photo from BCI in which Jake was holding the Colt 1911 .22 and a Maglite suppressor. Jake said he and his brother called their bosses and said they had a family emergency.
Jake said he didn't think BCI had recovered the gun because he knew they hadn't. He said he thought BCI broke a regulation by not going through their lawyer
Jake said he remembered a lot of discussion about whether the hand in the photo was his. Jake said the chat happened at the Flying W and Angela, Billy, Rita and GW4 were all present
Jake said he's not aware whether Elizabeth heard the conversation about him holding the gun. He said he recalled telling her he thought the house was bugged. He also shared concerns about BCI and media trying to talk to them
Jake said he was concerned Fredericka's home was bugged. As for the threats GW4 made to BCI and
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, "I cannot say per se threats but what I called vented frustrations.”
Jake said the threats were physical in nature. Jake said he tried to calm him down and to not say things like that in the truck.
When asked, Jake said about his upbringing "I was taught to always be respectful and compliant and if one was being investigated, be aware of surroundings. Always act like you belonged where you was and if you were" (cont)
to hide something, hide it in plain sight." He said Billy was upset that he had bought silencer parts online and that he and GW4 had dyed their hair. Jake said he doesn't recall GW4 telling him he should have gotten rid of the laptop in Montana
Jake said he also remembered GW4 saying something to him about his honestly always getting them in trouble. He also remembers Billy making a comment at Gary's funeral about Kenneth's dog Brownie being in the camper but he didn't move
Jake said Billy had a dog that came from Chance, Chris Sr's dog and a female dog.
Jake said he and Billy had a conversation about the murders where BW asked him if he had any regrets about the murders. Billy was frustrated by what he had done for Jake
Jake said he said in response to Q about regrets, "I had told him I did not." But Jake said that wasn't true. He said "I felt if I told him I believed it could have gone differently, he would feel like it wasn't worth it and he would commit suicide
Jake said when asked that he was aware that his mother had been sexually assaulted while she was in the military but it was never reported. He said he knew Rita was charged with forgery.
In Dec. 2019, Rita agreed to cooperate and said she couldn't lie anymore because it wasn't the Christian thing to do. Jake said that statement was like "an answer from God." He said he had prayed for that.
Shortly thereafter, he confessed to his lawyers to get it off of his chest but told them he wouldn't testify at his trial b/c he didn't want to lie. He thinks in March, April 2021 they talked about resolving his case.
Jake said, "There as a lot that I wanted" but ultimately he got the death specifications removed from his and hiss family members cases IF he testified fully and honestly against them.
Jake said he met with prosecutors over two to three days and told them everything. He told them where to find the guns and then identified the gun parts displayed on the screen. "I cut it up and put it alll in" the buckets
Parts of the Glock and Colt 1911 .22
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