OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #80

[rsd1200]

There's a thought!!

Next thought: His lawyers can't get him a long sleeve shirt?

Tatts or long sleeve. He puts on his street clothing inside the court, iirc. Some jails will run out of thermal long sleeves, and jackets. Inmates will make do with whatever they can.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

BW's lawyers will get the transcripts quicker than the public, they'll know everything being said in GWIV's trial.

Perhaps they have a "mole in the hole" as the saying goes??

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Canepa asked what else Jake Wagner hoped to get from his deal with Ohio. "If at all possible, one last family moment with my mother, brother and father, if they were permitted," he said. 4/13
n his first 90 minutes on cross exam, Wagner IV attorney John Parker quickly moved to two key points: 1. His client is facing the death penalty; 2. Jake Wagner is not. "He did not fire a shot, did he?" Parker asked Jake Wagner about his brother. "No," Jake Wagner replied. 6/13

I would love to be there to see George choke him to death.

JMO

Had George taken a plea, he would not be facing the death penalty. He made the choices, first to go along on a murder rampage and then to go to trial instead of taking a deal.

 

[rsd1200]

I can see JW not wanting in published on the internet so that when SW is older she won’t be able to pull it up and see him say what he did to her family . IMO

He publicly admitted it in his confession. Idr if I saw all of it or only pieces but he's no longer a defendant. He's a convict. No trial from JW after his spotlight is off of him and his hope to see his family one last time is dim (I hope). Like OP on here, I don't think he truly sees that he did anything wrong. Just another day of doing what he had to do. He may even explain it to S, as possibly protecting her from potential harm.

 

[Pru2U]

I think what is helpful is she has a source in the courtroom also. After the trial day is over they talk and she has the tweets from reporters and I think she gets clarification on those and any additional notes the person in court has. Did you hear the part about Nash saying so George was along to protect you? I really want to know if that was said as a statement or as something that was in Jake's proffer.

Holy cow pies! She has A LOT of info tonight! A whole lot more than I got out of the tweets. I've got to watch it again. It got CRAZY today.

 

[rsd1200]

It seems to me that Jake still feels the outcome was the only option. So his testimony seems cold because he might still think what he did he had to do to protect Sophia. He feels sorry he ended their lives maybe.. but he thinks the motive was just. His parents still have a hold on him. He wanted to see them one last time. He loves his mother. He wants George to be able to go home. Man, it's like he owned up to what he did in a matter of fact way and that sounds cold as ice, but I don't think he's lying. I think he has either completetly put what he did in a box so he is able to talk about it.

I really don't see him lying to say George was there if he wasn't.

The only way I could see it is out of some sort of vindictiveness but I'm not sure what that could be.

 

[Pru2U]

Did you hear the part about Nash saying so George was along to protect you? I really want to know if that was said as a statement or as something that was in Jake's proffer.

I read (from one of the tweets) it was in Jake's proffer.

Holy cow pies! She has A LOT of info tonight! A whole lot more than I got out of the tweets. I've got to watch it again. It got CRAZY today.

 

[sunshineray]

Are those compression sleeves or tube socks?

They look like both don't they? I'm thinking compression sleeves.

 

[Skully67]

They look like both don't they? I'm thinking compression sleeves.

I've noticed he doesn't move much and never takes a drink of anything.

 

[rsd1200]

They look like both don't they? I'm thinking compression sleeves.

Wonder if GW4 is working out now?

 

[sunshineray]

I can see JW not wanting in published on the internet so that when SW is older she won’t be able to pull it up and see him say what he did to her family . IMO

Yes but the truth is the truth. He already stood before the court and pled guilty, that's out there. That little darling girl has terrible heartache to work though as she grows. I hope and pray she's surrounded by love and support <3

 

[rebelchild]

Did AC ever ask JW who wore which size of shoes? I'm not sure if I missed a tweet that mentioned that or if it was never asked.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I watched a show some years back about how easy it was to break into homes even with dogs. They used a ex con and the owners would give permission to see how their dogs reacted. The ex con said most dogs, even if they act aggressive, will not bite unless they have had bite training. I haven't tested the idea myself but he talked to them like he was meant to be there and they didn't attack him.

I think the Rhodens relying on big mean looking dogs was a mistake. They should have got small dogs known for barking a lot. Big dogs are overrated. If you want a dog to alert you to an intruder, get a small chihuahua instead of relying on a big mean looking dog that can be bribed with treats, thinking it will go on the attack and protect you. I don't care how good you are with dogs a chihuahua doesn't like anyone but it's owner. They are surly, anti social little monsters.

I don't have a dog but hubby has a bunch of little yapping mutts. They bark every time the wind blows. They bark at our son and GK's. They even bark at me and I live here. You could throw a steak down in front of those mutts of his and they would still bark at you. If I walk into his bedroom you would think the little mutts are being strung up by their well manicured toenails. If he comes into my bedroom they come with him and bark at me. But long ago he and I made a deal if they bark at me in my own bedroom I reserve the right to throw a shoe or whatever is available and try to knock them out.

I think if Frankie, Kenny and Dana had chihuahuas that slept in the bed with them they would still be alive because those dogs bark loud and right in your ear. They would have had plenty of time to get to a gun. No dog would have saved Chris Sr and Gary though.

JMO

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Did AC ever ask JW who wore which size of shoes? I'm not sure if I missed a tweet that mentioned that or if it was never asked.

Those shoes were a bluff.

JMO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Is there an elevator in that building? If not, how do they provide accessibility to those not ambulatory? Surely they are ADA compliant. Then again, perhaps not.

No, they do not have an elevator.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

JMO I think he is a psychopath. There was no threat to SW. I think it all boils down to control. I also think he is lying about a lot of things like how involved his brother was in the killings but I think JW, AW and the other two idiots are the worst sort of bottom feeders, so my view is colored. I also think his ex wife was telling the truth about how he would kill her if she touched SW. I think the ex wife was dangerously close to being killed because AW threw out the whole inappropriate touching.

JMO I think he is a psychopath.

I know he is. He is a serial killer. His trophy was that Boondock Saints clip. That is why he showed so much pleasure by laughing when AC showed it in court. He would have gone on to kill many more women had he not been caught. Beth was lucky to get out alive.

JMo

 

[Skully67]

Todd dykes tweeted more info.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

??? What did he think he was "cheating him" of?

Beth said that George would go with Chris N while "scrapping" whatever that is. But she said George would complain Chris was cheating him out of money when the items were sold or work done. I think that is what put the rift between Chris and George a month ago.

JMO

 

[sunshineray]

Mr Nash seems stunned at the testimony. I wonder if that is a good thing for the prosecution..

ETA: approx 7h17m into the broadcast.
ETA 2: unfortunately my screenshot is too big and the small version I attached isn't too great. Too bad I don't know how to make a GIF, his reaction was priceless.

He does make some faces now and again. Looks like GWIV was glaring at his brother.

 

[sunshineray]

No, they do not have an elevator.

Poor Miss Geneva and Judy having to walk up those stairs. I hope Miss Geneva is well, haven't seen her, it may just be too overwhelming for her to sit through. God Bless them both.