OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#39

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Myland said:
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Thank you MYLAND for making it available . Now viewers can click and enlarge. Oh geez, this a is totally different page than I originally saw...but, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE iykwim. Docs, pulled
were for Edward Jacob Wagner. (Wow, just wow. Put him in streets clothes, no restraints and he'll run.) Now I don't think his "smile" was nervousness at all, perhaps a gargoyle's grin. Smugness and satisfaction....so evil.
Adults Grinning Gargoyle Fancy Dress Mask
ps...have to leave for a while, take care and Happiest...
 
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Myland said:
If I knew I wouldn’t get banned from Websleuths I would post the two also lol
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Send through the basement. It’s fine that way. Please and thank you. My back has forced me to bed this pm. I could use interesting reading to deflect pain about now.
 
RAISINISBACK said:
How do you get to the basement?
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I believe Charlie is referring to the members-only forum called The Jury Room. Go to Forums main page and scroll to bottom. There is also a members only forum called The Parking Lot we once used for stuff like this, but new threads started in The Parking Lot are now diverted to The Jury room. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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IQuestion said:
Doop Oops! You can correct anything I missed, space and add subtext, comments, questions, recall certain events, sale of residence, move to Alaska etc.
I was just trying to see when the case really heated up. This timeline helps.
Coincidentally Jake, when someone calls you in for a police interview on Friday the 13th, it usually turns out badly.

o5/13/2016 Video of interview Jake Wagner
09/09/2016 Audio of interview George WagnerIII
10/05/2016 Audio of interview Angela Jo Wagner
04/13/2017 Audio of interview Jake Wagner
05/03/2017 Audio of interview Jake and Angela Jo Wagner
05/08/2017 Audio of interview George WagnerIII
05/13/2017 Audio of interview Angela Jo Wagner
05/16/2017 Audio of interview Angela Jo Wagner
05/17/2017 Audio of interview Jake Wagner
05/21/2017 Audio of interview Jake Wagner
05/21/2017 Audio of interview George Wagner IV
05/21/2017 Audio of interview George Wagner III
05/21/2017 Audio of interview Angela Jo Wagner
05/21/2017 Video of interview (partial) Angela Jo Wagner
(Hmmm, did someone say, stop the cameras, I want my attorney?)
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Very good. Thanks for sharing.

We can read from the dates, it took some time before the Ws were interviewed. I would not say LE was after them day 1.
 
Puzzles8 said:
Do trailers usually have screens on their windows?
IIRC screens do not appear to be present in post crime images.
Except in the heart of winter, I would not have open windows without screens.
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Yes, I believe most trailers do when they are new. Who knows if the screens got worn out over time or if they had been removed for winter and not yet put back in. Or something else.
 
Regarding the discussion as to the 3 yr old possible observations and memories.
My earliest memories as a child were when I was 2 1/2 years old, and just bits and pieces. I probably remember them because they were a traumatic event in my life.
We were living in Houston, very close to Galveston Bay. A major cat 4/5 hurricane hit, the eye passed over our home. Thankfully I don't remember being frightened (though my parents later told me it was the only time in their life when they thought they might die), but I do have several memories of the hurricane and it's aftermath. I also think that most toddlers sleep very soundly and not much wakes them up, but how could they even risk him waking up?
 
Puzzles8 said:
Do trailers usually have screens on their windows?
IIRC screens do not appear to be present in post crime images.
Except in the heart of winter, I would not have open windows without screens.
I HATE bugs!
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The older ones I lived in, you had to remove the screens to put in storm windows ad remove storm windows to put in screens.
 
kaaky said:
Where can we go to find that list of evidence?
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Try this link. MYLAND made a copy of the requests. If you can not get to it through hitting my link then go to post #881 and click on it and it will appear larger for viewing. Also can look at post #859 and it will have the "interviews" reformatted to have a chronological flow of video and audio interviews of the W4's by LE. Hope that helps. I'll be up for a little while if you need some info.(The thread was moving pretty fast this afternoon.)
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...amily-arrested-39.405455/reply?quote=14660155
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...amily-arrested-39.405455/reply?quote=14659565
 
Jonas_Klein said:
Very good. Thanks for sharing.

We can read from the dates, it took some time before the Ws were interviewed. I would not say LE was after them day 1.
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Yes, its pretty shocking they only interviewed Jake Wagner once after the murders. Didn't interview him again for nearly a year. LE was definitely on the wrong trail for an entire year. Very frustrating, but what many of us suspected all along.

This is also why they allowed him to have custody of S. He wasn't on their radar. I guess we should be grateful they finally figured it out.

JMO, also may explain why they were so punitive towards surviving Rhoden and Manley family members after the murders - destroying some personal property, obstructing settlement of victims estates, locking up homes, not allowing them to retrieve personal mementos and family heirlooms, not allowing them to have custody of the kids. All because they thought they needed to punish these people to make them talk. Problem was they didn't know any more than what they told LE. SMH. :mad:
 
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Betty P said:
Yes, its pretty shocking they only interviewed Jake Wagner once after the murders. Didn't interview him again for nearly a year. LE was definitely on the wrong trail for an entire year. Very frustrating, but what many of us suspected all along.

This is also why they allowed him to have custody of S. He wasn't on their radar. I guess we should be grateful they finally figured it out.

JMO, also may explain why they were so punitive towards surviving Rhoden and Manley family members after the murders - destroying some personal property, obstructing settlement of victims estates, locking up homes, not allowing them to retrieve personal mementos and family heirlooms, not allowing them to have custody of the kids. All because they thought they needed to punish these people to make them talk. Problem was they didn't know any more than what they told LE. SMH. :mad:
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Betty. They may have had Jake and thevWaggies up on wires pretty quick and didn’t need to interview him. The others may have come first to document the lies. And we don’t know if Jake just refused or avoided it during that time.

I don’t think, LE were looking in the wrong direction. LM was doing everything except protesting in front of the Sheriffs office with their names in big bloody letters. I think BCI had to take their time to assemble every bit of evidence, analyze more evidence than in any case in the history of the state, and satisfy everyone involved beginning with DEWine. He was not going to file or let Junk file until they had an airtight Case.
And I think they have their Case airtight, signed sealed and delivered now.

I do believe AW has an extremely competent legal defense team. I’ll have a better opinion after reading the actual motions. And as time goes on. They may try for a deal, but prosecutors would have a very difficult time selling to the public.

As very expensive as trying 4 death penalty cases is going to be for a poverty stricken area, as a whole people want justice for the 8 murder victims.

This has gained international attention and deals might end careers. IMO

In the end, as I see it and nearly everything I have read, the Waggie clan has been getting away with a significant amount of bad criminal behavior for decades. Pike County is fed up with it and allegedly when they assumed the right to murder 8 people they crossed an unforgiving line unacceptable to anyone. Money isn’t going to buy them a dismissal in this case.

If found guilty, one way or another they will die in jail. While the Rhoden family may have lived a lifestyle different than many of us, not one of them asked for or deserved to die for anything they did or anything they believed in. In so many ways this is worse than gang killings. With gangs you expect this activity to some degree. Neighbors now assumed of being ex friends or not should never be feared as remotely capable of planning and executing 8 people.

I am shaking my head when I think of AW TELLING THEVWORLD “Hanna was like a daughter to me.” That’s frightening as I would hate to think now of what she might have done to SW irvto a biological daughter if they disagreed. I believe that the Waggies are evil. They mix well with normal humans until crossed. Then off come the human masks to reveal the faces of evil that truly drives them.
 
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Jmo but something happened Around March 2017 to switch focus on Wagner’s. Maybe someone they had already in jail or arrested around that time gave some info. Jmo of course.
 
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