OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #10

[InspectaX]

Guys, the towing of the cars doesn't mean they have anything to do with the crime. In my opinion it's part of fully processing the crime scene. They HAVE TO DO THAT and here's why. Let's say they end up arresting a few perps and it goes to trial. If they haven't thoroughly searched and examined everything on that property...including all vehicles...then the defense can accuse the prosecution of not doing a proper thorough job. I can see a defense attorney pulling out a bag of cocaine and lying and saying...this bag was found in X car on that property that they never even searched! Thereby he creates reasonable doubt an a competing narrative of the prosecution's case which could confuse the jury and provide reasonable doubt. Because of this it is law enforcement's duty to examine every single thing at a crime scene...they can't leave any stone untouched so that they don't provide an easy out for the defense team. A number of people on this forum know that I believe the perps are the group of kids that have had run-ins with the Rhodens. Processing the cars the way they have been in no way hurts that theory...in fact it strengthens it if anything because if they really thought these cars were an intrinsic part of the crime...they would have been taking evidence off of them two weeks ago...not the last two days.

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Absolutely !! But I would also add that LE wouldn't want those assets disappearing once they relinquish the crime scenes. It makes sense to me that the State would wish to pursue a "forfeiture of assets" if a case can be made for those assets having been acquired from the proceeds of crime, so removing them for forensic examination serves a two-fold purpose ...

 

[04009margaret]

I wonder how tangled of a web the Medical businesses are & very curious where that leads to. Edibles? Dispenceries in another state where it's legal. That would be some bucks but doubt it here. It's just those medical businesses that are very interesting.

Wasn't it posted that the property that Frankie lived on was owned by RW? The owner of the place Chris Sr, Frankie & Chris Jr. worked at? The place Gary's dad said his son was working at too on and off?

Cartel seems to be a stretch unless something else comes out. Family member(s) is still very possible or family assistance, the group from Waverly? Or will it be just a random someone(s) no one even had a hint about?

Of course in order to bring charges & a solid case, they have to rule even the wildest out or some sleezy defense lawyer would argue the one thing they didn't check out. oy

The record I found is still active & it's for domestic articles for profit

 

[04009margaret]

It is incredibly difficult to pinpoint exactly how many businesses the guy that owns the PO Box associated with Scioto River Trading is connected to in some form or fashion---because there are A CRAP TON. In numerous states, with a variation of similar names, and listed in different roles (VP, Managing Member, President, Secretary, Board Member, Treasurer, etc.)

All of the businesses seem to be in these fields: construction, carpentry, medical supplies, auto repair, auto sales, financial services, or real estate.

It's crazzzzzyyyyy.

ETA: With that said... when I consider the business connection to Chris Sr. & DR, and because CR seems to be the link between the victims, I'm currently leaning towards the motive being tied to an extremely large conspiracy to commit fraud/drug trafficking/money laundering scheme. And, this may be much larger than I ever could have imagined. I believe CR was the low man on the totem pole. It's possible that he discovered the full extent of "the business". Maybe he wanted to cut ties after he discovered that this could be much more than just a marijuana grow/cockfighting/pill deal op. Maybe he became a victim of extortion and started to get fed up with it. Maybe the ones who did this sensed he was getting fidgety or feared he was thinking about getting LE involved.

OR MAYBE I'm way overthinking this and my imagination is getting the best of me. Regardless, something stinks in suburbia in regards to that trading company.
Of THAT, I'm 100% certain.

Agree 100% All leads to the same connection, there are too many links to a certain campsite

 

[Crosscntrymom]

I'll add to that:
Multiple front business companies = money laundering

+ buying foreclosed properties/tax delinquencies

I meant to suggest that in a small town, buying foreclosures and profiting from their misfortune is a great way to really anger people.

 

[The OG]

2 weeks after eight Pike County killings, what's not known


Even motions to seal have been sealed :doh:

I wonder what the justification is to seal the warrants. Courts in the Southern District of Ohio have ruled in US v. Afshein Inc. .."the court refused to accept that the government's assertion that the existence of an ongoing investigation, without more, justifies continued secrecy, and held that a specific need for secrecy must be shown.". I think journalists should exercise their right to push the court to unseal the warrants or demand a reason why they will not. A redacted search warrant affidavit might satisy the public's need to know and the court's need for continued secrecy. A mass murderer is presumed free, the public has a right to more information.

 

[Betty P]

Here's one idea for the medical businesses besides Dana & Hanna working in caring for patients. Out there but they do exist.

http://dailynightly.nbcnews.com/_ne...ews-fake-pharmacies-profiting-on-scarce-drugs

That's interesting. I did some reading on this topic a few weeks ago and it's still a problem. Whatever remedy Congress tried after that 2012 article, it didn't work.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I have been in both forums however I do not think it's wise to copy and paste word for word someone else's theroy. I have read hearsay posts reguarding different things on both sites. Now if it's something a suspect said or info that's not released that may be word for word but a theroy should be in ones own words of how they think jmo

I hadn't thought of the angle someone was copying another person's posts. I thought it was someone posting on both sites. haha.

 

[Mmaaix]

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Absolutely !! But I would also add that LE wouldn't want those assets disappearing once they relinquish the crime scenes. It makes sense to me that the State would wish to pursue a "forfeiture of assets" if a case can be made for those assets having been acquired from the proceeds of crime, so removing them for forensic examination serves a two-fold purpose ...

junk cars as assets I highly doubt they would be returning the property if they were perusing that angle as the property is the best asset.

 

[Betty P]

I'm not sure this is involved with scoito river trading or the owner. He is involved in many businesses in different states, but I don't think he was involved with this.

I was the one to first post about the connection between CR DR and the boss and them both having medical companies. I have lots of info on the boss and some even from a person who knows him. While I think it is all very interesting and the connections tie to cars and work at Big Bear, I don't think it involves pill mills. I also don't think the medical companies were involved with fraud. I think they have to do with the boss ex wife who is a physical therapist.

I am still leaning more towards the people currently living at 799 LF and DS

You've all done some excellent sleuthing on the various companies the victims were affiliated with. It leads to quite a few areas where there may have been illegal activity. Quite a web, there.

It leads me to think the Feds and local LE have been working on quite a few different investigations in this area, covering different enterprises and individuals. These terrible murders have sort of blown up many of these ongoing investigations, probably why the AG and LE are keeping so much under wraps. It could threaten a number of investigations that weren't quite completed and ready for prosecution. Perhaps they're walking a fine line to find the killers of the Rhoden family without compromising some of these investigations. They may be facing some tough choices trying to bring the perps to justice for the killings while letting other criminals go. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Pearline]

Not sure this has been posted, but he talks about finding Kenneth and discusses the money.

"I hollered at Kenneth, 'Kenneth, can you hear me?' There no response. I turned around and looked at Luke,” Stone said, referring to another relative who was with him. “I said, ‘Luke, you don't need to see this.’ I walked up to the foot of the bed, I raised my head up and I looked. I saw blood in his eyes, and I knew then he was dead."

Video/article at link:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/cousin-of-...unts-grisly-discovery-at-crime-scene/39424988

 

[pcap]

I'm not sure this is involved with scoito river trading or the owner. He is involved in many businesses in different states, but I don't think he was involved with this.

I was the one to first post about the connection between CR DR and the boss and them both having medical companies. I have lots of info on the boss and some even from a person who knows him. While I think it is all very interesting and the connections tie to cars and work at Big Bear, I don't think it involves pill mills. I also don't think the medical companies were involved with fraud. I think they have to do with the boss ex wife who is a physical therapist.

I am still leaning more towards the people currently living at 799 LF and DS

Who is currently living at 799 LF? The relative with a B initial we can't discuss?

 

[Betty P]

Not sure this has been posted, but he talks about finding Kenneth and discusses the money.








Video/article at link:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/cousin-of-...unts-grisly-discovery-at-crime-scene/39424988

Thanks, Pearline. I added that link to the Media/Timelines thread. Feel free to add more as you find them. Love your blog, BTW. :loveyou:

 

[Pearline]

Thanks, Pearline. I added that link to the Media/Timelines thread. Feel free to add more as you find them. Love your blog, BTW. :loveyou:

Thanks.

Re DS, what didn't he want the other person not to see? Not pointing an accusatory finger here, but his statement is rather odd, IMO if he hadn't determined that KR was deceased. JMO JMO JMO LOL

 

[The OG]

Who is currently living at 799 LF? The relative with a B initial we can't discuss?

Not that address, 4199 Union Hall. IIRC, BJM lives near there though in another CR1 property.

 

[Ann99]

Not sure this has been posted, but he talks about finding Kenneth and discusses the money.





Video/article at link:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/cousin-of-...unts-grisly-discovery-at-crime-scene/39424988

LUKE?
Who is LUKE?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I agree. I found his statement to be odd. KR could have been out and about on the property and not even in the home.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Not sure this has been posted, but he talks about finding Kenneth and discusses the money.





Video/article at link:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/cousin-of-...unts-grisly-discovery-at-crime-scene/39424988

Is this his 2nd interview (where he said he went to the garage and found pot) or is this a new one? I'm having trouble with the video playing.

 

[Betty P]

Thanks.

Re DS, what didn't he want the other person not to see? Not pointing an accusatory finger here, but his statement is rather odd, IMO if he hadn't determined that KR was deceased. JMO JMO JMO LOL

Someone upthread said Luke is Kenneth's adult son. He (DS) didn't want Luke to see his own father dead, bloody, etc. Can't blame him for keeping him away if that was the case. DS and Luke apparently went together to check on Kenneth after hearing of the other killings. Probably called and got no answer. News hit the media around 11:30 or noon.

 

[Betty P]

Is this his 2nd interview (where he said he went to the garage and found pot) or is this a new one? I'm having trouble with the video playing.

Looks to me like an edited version of the first interview, as much of what he says is the same as in the first one. Same emotional reaction talking about finding KR, etc.

 

[Mercedes]

LUKE?
Who is LUKE?

His son.