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Lanesmommy said:
Also Kendra Rhoden was supposed to stay with Hanna Rhoden and she did a U turn and went back home. So odd that three different people were supposed to stay at 3 of the 4 crime scenes and canceled last minute. It makes you wonder, along with all the other mind boggling occurrences that's happened with the murders.
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Didn't know that either, but now I understand why Dewine said what he said.

Columbus — If you know anything about those awful killings that took place down in Pike County earlier this year, it would be in your best interest to step forward and share those details with law enforcement, post haste.
So says Republican Attorney General Mike DeWine, who isn’t mincing words when it comes to the crime and people hiding information from the police.

http://auroraadvocate.com/opinion/2...y-murders-step-forward-now-and-tell-the-truth
 
Lanesmommy said:
Also Kendra Rhoden was supposed to stay with Hanna Rhoden and she did a U turn and went back home. So odd that three different people were supposed to stay at 3 of the 4 crime scenes and canceled last minute. It makes you wonder, along with all the other mind boggling occurrences that's happened with the murders.
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I never put too much thought into the last minute cancelled sleepovers and I'll try to explain why:

When I was away at college, I was part of a group of friends that were all from the same area and we used to carpool and ride share back home for weekends, spring break, summer, etc. One weekend, 3 of my friends traveling home were in a fatal car wreck -- it was absolutely horrible l. In the weeks following, there were 3 more of our friends going around saying "I was supposed to ride with them. I could have been killed too". Now someone had to have been lying or exaggerating, because that car couldn't possibly fit 6 people. I always thought of it as -- they COULD have been in that car, I mean we all could've been -- but they were just making it seem a little bit closer to them than it really was, for whatever reason (probably to get attention). And while it rubbed some of us the wrong way, we could never really prove which one of them was exaggerating. I was actually a little shaken up myself, because I had rode in that exact same car & down that exact same highway, just 3 weekends prior.

I imagine a similar thing going on here, where the doors were always open (literally), and family sleepovers were quite common. Perhaps Kendra (and the others) had regular sleepovers with their cousins. Maybe they had the option to stay over that night, or maybe they did actually intend on sleeping over that night -- but I highly doubt that 3-4 different ppl were just minutes away from staying the night but suddenly changed their minds and cancelled their plans. Its my pinion that some of them are exaggerating so that they could say "I could have been the 9th victim."



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The more discussion I see about the sleepovers, the more puzzled I am. Was it mentioned here that CR (the ex of FR) stayed until 10:30 because someone was at FRs that the ex had not seen in a while, so she stayed to visit? I'd love to know who it was, if that's true.
 
“We’re calling him. We’re leaving messages. He was supposed to be at work. Well, then, 12 o’clock came around, he was supposed to be on break. My dad never ignored me,” Kendra recalled. She'd thought her dad was at his job in Columbus.

Then, the family sent a friend and a Rhoden cousin over to check Kenneth’s home. The pair called Kendra’s aunt to tell her the news.

http://www.fox19.com/story/33438311...-investigators-amid-pike-county-investigation

Kenneth Rhoden is buried in Piketon, just a few miles from Kendra home. He's buried next to his son, Austin Caine Rhoden. Kenneth adopted Austin in the 90s. Austin passed away after a battle with cancer in November 1995.

He was just six and a half years old.
 
RAISINISBACK said:
I don't see the victims that way. Admittedly they didn't have the cleanest yard in town (yes I am aware that is an understatement) but they weren't bad enough for some religious group to get on a high horse about. Yes they may have sold pot (we don't know if this was the first year they did it or not, I tend to think so since no one claims to know about it) but they weren't running a crack house. They weren't running a prostitution ring (there is no evidence of that). They weren't luring in young teenagers and giving them drugs. There is no evidence anyone in the family was committing adultery and indeed they were technically all unmarried.

I just can't see why a religious group even with a strict moral compass would carry it far enough to kill 8 people. Being of a strict faith myself I can see the minister preaching from the pulpit about the sin, but even the preacher closest to them acted surprised about the "commercial grows" so I tend to think he didn't know anything about it.

I see the victims as people who worked hard at anything they could find to make money. I also see them as helping family and friends. I think they were the kind of people that family depended on if they were in a bind and needed financial help.

I also think that they themselves had somewhat of a high moral compass since there has not even been a rumor of lovers, or them cheating anyone, double crossing anyone on a deal. No one has claimed they lied to them or deceived them in any way. I also tend to think they paid their bills on time since apparently their credit was good enough to get a bank loan to buy DR's house. JMO
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Agree. They were hardworking people, for the most part. Nearly everyone who was old enough had a job and worked to earn more money on the side. Other than the young ones getting in some fights in town, they stayed out of trouble.

Growing pot for extra income, especially in relatively small quantities, is not unusual in that area. Ohio has finally legalized use of medical marijuana and will probably loosen the restrictions even more in coming years.

If there are religious nuts running around killing people for being poor, I hope they're caught and locked up for good.
 
Elley Mae said:
“We’re calling him. We’re leaving messages. He was supposed to be at work. Well, then, 12 o’clock came around, he was supposed to be on break. My dad never ignored me,” Kendra recalled. She'd thought her dad was at his job in Columbus.

Then, the family sent a friend and a Rhoden cousin over to check Kenneth’s home. The pair called Kendra’s aunt to tell her the news.

http://www.fox19.com/story/33438311...-investigators-amid-pike-county-investigation

Kenneth Rhoden is buried in Piketon, just a few miles from Kendra home. He's buried next to his son, Austin Caine Rhoden. Kenneth adopted Austin in the 90s. Austin passed away after a battle with cancer in November 1995.

He was just six and a half years old.
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Where did you get info of austin being adopted? Share please.
 
Betty P said:
Agree. They were hardworking people, for the most part. Nearly everyone who was old enough had a job and worked to earn more money on the side. Other than the young ones getting in some fights in town, they stayed out of trouble.

Growing pot for extra income, especially in relatively small quantities, is not unusual in that area. Ohio has finally legalized use of medical marijuana and will probably loosen the restrictions even more in coming years.

If there are religious nuts running around killing people for being poor, I hope they're caught and locked up for good.
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They would not have fit in with the country club set, but I think for their area they blended in very well. I think the majority of the people in that area are no better or no worse off than they were. Nothing about them stood out to the extent they would have been singled out for a hate crime because of their lifestyle. This was not a crime based on moral turpitude.

But I do think this was a crime of hate that hinged on their personalities, not their lifestyles or characters. Someone hated these people just because they were them, not because their yard was a bit cluttered or they grew pot, or had a few dust ups in town.
This was a hate that was up close and personal. Very personal and very close.
 
RAISINISBACK said:
They would not have fit in with the country club set, but I think for their area they blended in very well. I think the majority of the people in that area are no better or no worse off than they were. Nothing about them stood out to the extent they would have been singled out for a hate crime because of their lifestyle. This was not a crime based on moral turpitude.

But I do think this was a crime of hate that hinged on their personalities, not their lifestyles or characters. Someone hated these people just because they were them, not because their yard was a bit cluttered or they grew pot, or had a few dust ups in town.
This was a hate that was up close and personal. Very personal and very close.
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A hate crime can target completely innocent people on the wrong side of an idea for their race, beliefs, gender or sexual choice.

A small personal spark can ignite the fire of hate when the hate has firepower.

Sometimes perpetrators of hate crimes get help from someone close to the victims for various reasons: by ideology, by fear or for greed.

In this case, we could be searching for years what the victims did wrong, probably nothing apart being Rhodens.

It's just a thought as I turn every stone, not my favorite theory. Anyway, we don't have much facts to work with in this direction with the exception of a suspicious behaviour and very bizarre quotes.

I won't develop further, I think we would get in trouble quickly with TOS. Dear mod, I got the point.

I tend to agree on the very personal
 
Many of us have personal survivor stories. It helps to understand the perspective of others. Mine is a hate crime of gender, here it is:

*http://www.cbc.ca/montreal/features/remember-14/

On wednesday december 6th 1989 past 5pm, a 20 years old gunman entered my school. Rejected by the school, rejected by women, he came to school to exterminate women.

He shot dead 14 young women and injured as many. In one classroom, he expelled men. He ordered women to align against the wall and executed them with a semi-automatic weapon. He knew none of them.

The victims of this massacre were young women, most of the age of Hanna and Hannah.* The gunman didn't survive to face justice. The injustice to women is far greater than this single story. Maybe it's why I am so interested in obtaining justice for the two young mothers.
 
jk204 said:
Many of us have personal survivor stories. It helps to understand the perspective of others. Mine is a hate crime of gender, here it is:

*http://www.cbc.ca/montreal/features/remember-14/

On wednesday december 6th 1989 past 5pm, a 20 years old gunman entered my school. Rejected by the school, rejected by women, he came to school to exterminate women.

He shot dead 14 young women and injured as many. In one classroom, he expelled men. He ordered women to align against the wall and executed them with a semi-automatic weapon. He knew none of them.

The victims of this massacre were young women, most of the age of Hanna and Hannah.* The gunman didn't survive to face justice. The injustice to women is far greater than this single story. Maybe it's why I am so interested in obtaining justice for the two young mothers.
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I am so sorry that you had to go though that. It takes a lot of courage just to get through it let alone living with it after the fact. My sympathies are with you and I hope that you know that for every one monster there are many millions of good people who are horrified at what that one monster does.
 
RAISINISBACK said:
I am so sorry that you had to go though that. It takes a lot of courage just to get through it let alone living with it after the fact. My sympathies are with you and I hope that you know that for every one monster there are many millions of good people who are horrified at what that one monster does.
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Thank you for your sympathies. I extend them to the people who lost a daughter, a sister, a girlfriend.

It's an old story now for me. But it has changed the way I see some things.
 
gorillla said:
This is such a weird development. What brought them back to the evidence warehouse? Did someone break-in? Do you think JR started talking? This case might finally be coming together.


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I'm hoping that JR started talking. Looks as if they at least removed some evidence to possibly review.!! Hope an arrest is coming soon.

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Pike County Sheriff Charlie Reader declined comment on the raid, but told FOX19 NOW's Barr in a text message at 12:58 a.m. the raid was “Not related to the Rhoden case. No further comments.”

http://www.fox19.com/story/34385076/rhoden-evidence-warehouse-raided-overnight

On Tuesday morning, Lisa Peterson, a spokeswoman with the attorney general's office said their agency and the Bureau of Criminal Investigation wasn't involved in the raid.

She also said she had no further information.

Aside from the Rhoden evidence, the only evidence we could find of another operation located at the warehouse is the Hadsell Chemical Processing company and a Relevant Compounding, a chemical compounding company.


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Reader says the JR arrest and the warehouse raid are both not related to the Rhoden Case. I find that hard to believe.


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How bizarre. This case just seems to have twists and turns everywhere.
 
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