OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #29

[Jennifer17]

Makes you wonder who would have been wearing shoes at the time the murders were supposed to have taken place... But then nothing else makes sense...

DR could have still had her shoes on. She didn't finish work until 11pm.

 

[Jennifer17]

Has anyone else happened across a business, owned by the Ws, that cares for the infirmed?

I ask b/c of a statement that LM made, about them (LE) @ 2:40, in the link below: "took bedding from an old man that was bed-fast. C'mon, why would you take someone's blanket and stuff off a guy that's bed-fast?"

http://www.fox19.com/story/35453014...of-arrests-investigators-couldnt-catch-a-cold

Hope this is not against TOS.

I thought that that was when LE searched the Ms homes. I may be wrong.

 

[rsd1200]

I thought that that was when LE searched the Ms homes. I may be wrong.

It is, but they did not go into the W homes, during this search, iirc. There were other searches that we have not been privy to, as to where they were located, what they were searching for, etc..., b/c they've all been sealed. Hearsay has it that another location, not one of the Ws, was shut down for a period of time too, so that a search could be performed, it was not a location nearly as large as the W search though. I'm just wondering if this was one of the previous searches. Had one of the W places been searched before and we didn't know b/c it only took a couple of LEOs to do a home search (but LM knows something and seems to know who this fella is).

 

[rsd1200]

Makes you wonder who would have been wearing shoes at the time the murders were supposed to have taken place... But then nothing else makes sense...

Would it have fallen off in the driveway? They took all of the homes so, if it were in the homes, they'd ultimately have the other shoe, but if it fell off onto the driveway, and no one noticed...that's just terrible, and disturbing. Makes me wonder about all of those single shoes I see all over the place, and ultimately wonder, Why would a single shoe be there?

 

[Dudly]

Has anyone else happened across a business, owned by the Ws, that cares for the infirmed?

I ask b/c of a statement that LM made, about them (LE) @ 2:40, in the link below: "took bedding from an old man that was bed-fast. C'mon, why would you take someone's blanket and stuff off a guy that's bed-fast?"

http://www.fox19.com/story/35453014...of-arrests-investigators-couldnt-catch-a-cold

Hope this is not against TOS.

He mentions that while talking about the LE search warrants. It sounds like, to me, that LE took the blankets of a bedridden man looking for evidence during one of their searches. But where that was, who knows. I feel so sorry for LM. So many in his family were murdered and LE hammered his remaining family members accusing them of doing it. He has never really had a peaceful period to grieve.
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[Dudly]

DR could have still had her shoes on. She didn't finish work until 11pm.

You are right on that. But then that makes her murder much earlier than what has been said by LE as around 4:00 am, I think.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

You are right on that. But then that makes her murder much earlier than what has been said by LE as around 4:00 am, I think.

Or much later. If she had to be at work that morning at 8:00AM she would have started getting ready at maybe 6:00AM.

 

[Dudly]

For a twist on time line. What if CR1 and GR bodies were hidden in case DR stopped in on the way home? She wouldn't be able to look in the window and see a body and the door was said to have been locked.

 

[Bootsctr]

Has anyone else happened across a business, owned by the Ws, that cares for the infirmed?

I ask b/c of a statement that LM made, about them (LE) @ 2:40, in the link below: "took bedding from an old man that was bed-fast. C'mon, why would you take someone's blanket and stuff off a guy that's bed-fast?"

http://www.fox19.com/story/35453014...of-arrests-investigators-couldnt-catch-a-cold

Hope this is not against TOS.

I have not, but I have not searched specifically. I will say that when I saw how close the nursing home where Dana worked in regards to the W's home and land, I wondered to myself if the W's could have been invested in the nursing home in some way. I also wondered if the W's could have been involved/invested in the home health agency that Dana also worked for. Did BJM do any home health care?

Ever since I watched that interview with Len, I have been confused about his statement regarding the blanket being taken from a bedfast person. Is great grandpa W bedfast? The only person I have seen that looks to be bedfast is great grandmother GR.

I will say that LM gives specific times regarding the text message between JM and JW. If text was sent at 8 or 9 p.m. that night and "that boy" received it at 3 a.m. Maybe those were just random times LM pulled out of the air, but still very curious.

Odd that LM never refers to JW by name - always "that boy."

 

[Bootsctr]

Speaking of shoes:

Many in the large family, many of whom still live and work in the area, feel intentionally cut out of the proceedings.
"There is already such burden out there on the family with*such tragedy and they just placed more because*we can’t talk about those children,'' Tony Rhoden said. "By putting a gag order on the case, you put a burden on the family for the fact is if, let's say for instance, my mom goes to my sister and says how are those children doing?*How would you like to be that person to tell your mom: I can’t talk to you,'' he said.
"How would you like to be in those shoes?"
"How would you like to be in her shoes?"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/08/11/rhodens-scoff-pike-county-sheriffs-comments/88507184/

This is a very strange case.

 

[rsd1200]

He mentions that while talking about the LE search warrants. It sounds like, to me, that LE took the blankets of a bedridden man looking for evidence during one of their searches. But where that was, who knows. I feel so sorry for LM. So many in his family were murdered and LE hammered his remaining family members accusing them of doing it. He has never really had a peaceful period to grieve.
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It kinda sounds to me like they took them for evidence. There is "home", for the infirmed, that is owned by the family who they performed that big search on. It was not included in the big search. Happened across it and thought about what LM said. You're right about the grieving process. No surviving family members have had the ability to grieve normally, but for LM and his wife, it is even more-so b/c of the investigation into their family. His wife has stayed very quiet and out of public view. I think about her at times too.

 

[jk204]

Digging in older stories:

This article from last year reported incidents with RM and TG. We haven't heard of these individuals in MSM since.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/violent-rhoden-brothers-met-a-violent-end-in-ohio-massacre

Should people closer to the case revisit this story and see if there is any connection with recent developments?

 

[rsd1200]

Speaking of shoes:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/08/11/rhodens-scoff-pike-county-sheriffs-comments/88507184/

This is a very strange case.

my mom goes to my sister and says how are those children doing?*How would you like to be that person to tell your mom: I can’t talk to you,'' he said.

This sounds like to me that one of his sisters may have the children or possibly see them b/c of where they're located. There are two sisters that I'd lean toward.

 

[Bootsctr]

Digging in older stories:

This article from last year reported incidents with RM and TG. We haven't heard of these individuals in MSM since.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/violent-rhoden-brothers-met-a-violent-end-in-ohio-massacre

Should people closer to the case revisit this story and see if there is any connection with recent developments?

Hmmmm... This certainly makes the Rhodens seem very powerful and controlling. People you would not want to cross. You would want to stay on their good side. Definitely something worth revisiting. It does seem LE seems to be pointed toward the family and not outward to these other feuds beyond the family.

 

[rsd1200]

Digging in older stories:

This article from last year reported incidents with RM and TG. We haven't heard of these individuals in MSM since.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/violent-rhoden-brothers-met-a-violent-end-in-ohio-massacre

Should people closer to the case revisit this story and see if there is any connection with recent developments?

"The Gs aren’t at all suspected to be behind the massacre, but authorities seem to believe the targeted attack was something akin to payback."

I don't think it was the Gs, nor the kids who had a beef w/CR2, or the lady who slapped him, or the kids who were met up w/baseball bats and firearms, but I do believe it was payback. I also think it was fairly local.

 

[jk204]

Hmmmm... This certainly makes the Rhodens seem very powerful and controlling. People you would not want to cross. You would want to stay on their good side. Definitely something worth revisiting. It does seem LE seems to be pointed toward the family and not outward to these other feuds beyond the family.

Indeed, the different statements of AG & LE seem to indicate in the direction of family or extended family members.

But did they act alone?

 

[goofyone]

But that does not explain JW saying he reckoned he missed it by a couple of hours...

If the first statement was true (which we cannot know ), then JW was the last, or one of the last people to see DR, HMR, K, and CR, Jr alive.

He may have done both..picked her up as scheduled for his week then took her home and picked her up again before the murders

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[Bootsctr]

Indeed, the different statements of AG & LE seem to indicate in the direction of family or extended family members.

But did they act alone?

No, I don't think they acted alone. Grrrr! I had an entire post go poof! I believe no less than 6 shooters. AG said in video it was sophisticated. Kenneth - maybe separate from the others. Transportation - 4 wheelers maybe. I'm interested in the horse trailer that was confiscated. It would be easy to power wash any DNA away.

 

[Bootsctr]

@goofyone - Maybe HMR called him because she was feeling overwhelmed with the newborn and a toddler?

 

[amauet1]

I'm just sitting back and reading everyone's posts and keeping up. I have nothing to contribute at this time, because any info I have gathered from place to place isn't in msm articles. Speaking of which, we know the families have gag orders and apparently so do some of or most of the media. Who in the Ohio government has that amount of power? Doesn't everyone in state office answer to the governor ? Doesn't BCI answer to Dewine? Everything reported by my local channels IMO has been issued by the powers that be to the news stations. There just to quiet and the only one that "pushed" anyone about anything has been "given" a job in another state, far from Ohio.(Jamie Barr). That was convienent !
Anyway , so far IMO the W's and their family fit most of my questions about who. what,when. why and how. The W's IMO are used to "having their own way" and "getting what they want, when they want it. In my opinion, they have an attitude of they are superior to most in Pike Co, and the Manleys are in it to.
I believe "they" have been giving us a show as to them being " just poor dumb hillbillies". Yeah, dumb like a fox as they say.
These are just my opinions.