OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #29

[Dudly]

If so, would she have found it odd that the door was locked? Since they had recently reconciled- would she have had a key to get in the house?

If the lights were out and the door locked, she may have assumed he wasn't there. She might have thought he was at her house.She may not have stopped in.
HR and CR2 may have been dead when she got home. If the bedroom doors were closed and the baby wasn't crying, she may not have looked in the bedrooms. The killer could have been waiting on her to get home. Endless possibilities...

 

[RAISINISBACK]

This case is so odd. I wouldn't think that CRSr and GR would have had to be hid- to me who is going to come around that late at night.

Thinking it over, I have tossed around the possibility that instead of late at night it was early morning. DR had to be at work at 8:00 AM. BJM came to feed the dogs at 7:00 AM. KR left for work at 5:00AM. If KR was killed at 4:30AM then CR1 they would have had to hide the bodies of Cr1 and GR in order to finish with DR by the 7:00 AM time.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Just had a thought- Could CRSr have been covered up because the killer was close to him? Maybe the killer(s) were looking for something in the house and felt guilt/shame over what they did?

Maybe his "best friend" GW3?

 

[rsd1200]

If the lights were out and the door locked, she may have assumed he wasn't there. She might have thought he was at her house.She may not have stopped in.
HR and CR2 may have been dead when she got home. If the bedroom doors were closed and the baby wasn't crying, she may not have looked in the bedrooms. The killer could have been waiting on her to get home. Endless possibilities...

But, she was active on FB at 12:59 a.m. and they were posts that seem likely that she would have shared to her timeline and the BH Memorial timeline. In other words, I'm pretty sure it was her who made the posts. No hidden meanings. Just normal posts.

 

[Nickandnora]

That was to ask them them about how good of a person she was.

i have also thought he meant to poke around and ask questions. Maybe along the lines of where they got their medications, there are so many pill mills in the vicinity.

Some might remember a poster that was on here for a few days that said they were a very close friend of the family. Poster, posted while waiting to get verified then disappeared, I don't think they were verified or possibly they were told to watch what they said. They did offer up some interesting things if true, some of it was snipped and a few post were deleted by mods because of TOS.

One post I saw before it was deleted has always stuck in my mind, if it is true,could help in the time frame of death,the poster mentioned KR's daily routine starting at between 4 and 4:30AM, this could help explain CR and GR being moved. I hope I am not breaking TOS

 

[evelezrn]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...SgBMAA&usg=AFQjCNEPgCCDB2Ite2dOoxlCy8QmmUXiBA

 

[evelezrn]

Sorry... Double posted

 

[Margo/Mom]

Thank you Dudly. I was able to watch the video (I don't do facebook any more) and clearly there is a big difference between the hazmat suits in the video and the coveralls in the picture at the Rhodens. I was surprised to see that the hazmat suits are worn even outdoors when a body is found.

I have seen a recent Investigation Discovery show in which the CSI team were wearing the coveralls as pictured at the Rhodens (no head covering), but detectives were walking around w/o any covering at all. I know that it was just a reenactment, but I would think even the detectives would have to suit up too as to not contaminate the scene further.

I read in one article (don't remember, no link) where one of the victim's shoes were left behind at the Rhodens. Now whether it is true or not, I don't know, but that seems sloppy of the investigators to leave behind a shoe of a victim if indeed it happened.

Clearly there would be bodily fluids involved. Think about hospital procedure. Universal precautions nowadays include substantial cover in places like ERs, etc. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Bootsctr]

DR occasionally worked double shifts and would return home after 11 pm. Someone knew Dana was working a double shift that night.

Something I am curious about is if Dana was scheduled to work a double shift that night or did someone not show up for their 3 - 11 shift?

Pulling a double and then returning the next day for the 7 - 3 shift seems exhausting. I'd be running on caffeine. It seems to me that Dana was the wildcard in predicting where everyone would be that night or morning. Very important (at least IMO) to get a newborn on a schedule ASAP, so HMR likely in bed at a certain time. CRJr had school (or was he expelled?).

 

[Bootsctr]

Clearly there would be bodily fluids involved. Think about hospital procedure. Universal precautions nowadays include substantial cover in places like ERs, etc. Better safe than sorry.

Thank you! Perfect example. Lots of precaution in hospitals, ERs to prevent contact with potential diseases.

 

[Bootsctr]

i have also thought he meant to poke around and ask questions. Maybe along the lines of where they got their medications, there are so many pill mills in the vicinity.

Some might remember a poster that was on here for a few days that said they were a very close friend of the family. Poster, posted while waiting to get verified then disappeared, I don't think they were verified or possibly they were told to watch what they said. They did offer up some interesting things if true, some of it was snipped and a few post were deleted by mods because of TOS.

One post I saw before it was deleted has always stuck in my mind, if it is true,could help in the time frame of death,the poster mentioned KR's daily routine starting at between 4 and 4:30AM, this could help explain CR and GR being moved. I hope I am not breaking TOS

BBM - That's what I thought Len meant too - not only in regards to what a good person Dana was, but there were answers to what happened to the family in Peebles. Pills too.

 

[Betty P]

Latest from Sheriff Reader discussing all the recent drug busts in Pike County

16 charged, more arrests likely to come in Pike County drug trafficking investigation

http://myfox28columbus.com/news/loc...in-pike-county-drug-trafficking-investigation

Sheriff Chip Reader and Pike County law enforcement say the trafficking ring was being run by Richard Smith, who is currently in a state prison. They say many of the people recently arrested are related to him or directly connected to him. Many of the suspects have ties to the Konvicted Family gang, the "Good Fellas" gang. The Sheriff says a few are confirmed members of gangs.

Sheriff says it's "not" related to the Rhoden murders. Ok.


Link to Columbus Dispatch story, with video

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170706/pike-county-sheriff-outlines-series-of-drug-busts

 

[rsd1200]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...SgBMAA&usg=AFQjCNEPgCCDB2Ite2dOoxlCy8QmmUXiBA

These seem to be "local" gangs. Seems similar to our Cornbread Mafia, only w/pills and meth.

 

[Margo/Mom]

It was pretty good, I think, till cable news came along. Then they had to try to out do each other to get the viewership. Then opinion got pushed as fact and any source was good enough. Now it's just nuts. I'm like you, just give me the facts...You never have to change or retract facts...

The twenty-four hour news cycle (cable news) certainly has an impact, but so too does the proliferation of internet sites. Lotta folks publishing who have no notion of journalistic ethics. They push stories prematurely, and once they become public, true or not, they become "news." Classic example is the Shirley Sherrod story. Breitbart published a wholly unchecked story, based on doctored footage. Reputable journalists "back in the day," would have sourced it and likely found it to be a non-story when the tape was viewed in its entirety. But the "story" went out, spurring a public outcry and THAT became the story. Ultimately the truth came out, but not before Ms. Sherrod had been fired, making the President look very foolish for having believed the story.

Deliberately invented and circulated "fake news" (example "pizzagate") seem to have become more, rather than less frequent.

 

[rsd1200]

Idk, I'm still going on a hunch that Reader and the DEA may have been correct, at the six month mark, and all of these folks have been arrested in this drug sweep, may just happen to be connected by one familial tie.

2:46 - 3:45 "drugs likely have nothing to do with the killings".
4:26 - 4:47 It sounds as if they were just not into drugs, big time. That's not to say they didn't know folks who were.

I'd say a lot of folks may know other folks who are big drug dealers, whether they are into drugs themselves or not, some may have a friend/acquaintance who are big, or small, time drug dealers, and not even know that their friend/acquaintance is a big time drug dealer. All of the Rhodens held down jobs, some held down more than one, that is not indicative of a big time drug dealer.

https://youtu.be/fgX_ZCf2cuM

 

[Margo/Mom]

It kinda sounds to me like they took them for evidence. There is "home", for the infirmed, that is owned by the family who they performed that big search on. It was not included in the big search. Happened across it and thought about what LM said. You're right about the grieving process. No surviving family members have had the ability to grieve normally, but for LM and his wife, it is even more-so b/c of the investigation into their family. His wife has stayed very quiet and out of public view. I think about her at times too.

LM is certainly a sympathetic character. But I suspect that, while he may have pieced together a version of the story of the killings (notice how he refused to discuss anything about whodunnit), he is not someone who has the confidence of anyone. He simply cannot refrain from running his mouth. I also suspect that even if he believed in his heart of hearts that one of his children might have been involved in the murders, he would never be able to admit that--to himself or anyone else.

But the blanket comment, that is interesting. Could be just an expression he pulled out to express his disdain for LE, or it could refer to something he knows they did in some other instance. Or, it could be something he just let slip that he wasn't supposed to talk about.

BTW--who was the woman who came up at the end and took him away? Wonder what it was she whispered to him?

 

[Jennifer17]

LM is certainly a sympathetic character. But I suspect that, while he may have pieced together a version of the story of the killings (notice how he refused to discuss anything about whodunnit), he is not someone who has the confidence of anyone. He simply cannot refrain from running his mouth. I also suspect that even if he believed in his heart of hearts that one of his children might have been involved in the murders, he would never be able to admit that--to himself or anyone else.

But the blanket comment, that is interesting. Could be just an expression he pulled out to express his disdain for LE, or it could refer to something he knows they did in some other instance. Or, it could be something he just let slip that he wasn't supposed to talk about.

BTW--who was the woman who came up at the end and took him away? Wonder what it was she whispered to him?

It was surmised that the woman was his daughter in law and that she whispered to him that they had raised the money for JMs bail.

 

[Margo/Mom]

After I read that BJM said to LE 'I knowed where the key is', how could they then accuse her of having her sister's family killed? She is obviously a little slow. That is the vocabulary of a small child.

BBM -- or local dialect.

 

[rsd1200]

LM is certainly a sympathetic character. But I suspect that, while he may have pieced together a version of the story of the killings (notice how he refused to discuss anything about whodunnit), he is not someone who has the confidence of anyone. He simply cannot refrain from running his mouth. I also suspect that even if he believed in his heart of hearts that one of his children might have been involved in the murders, he would never be able to admit that--to himself or anyone else.

But the blanket comment, that is interesting. Could be just an expression he pulled out to express his disdain for LE, or it could refer to something he knows they did in some other instance. Or, it could be something he just let slip that he wasn't supposed to talk about.

BTW--who was the woman who came up at the end and took him away? Wonder what it was she whispered to him?

Never. I don't think he could take that.

Pretty sure, as Jennifer stated, that's AM, JM's wife and I too think it was about the bail. Note how LM perks up. Bless his heart.

 

[Venom]

Latest from Sheriff Reader discussing all the recent drug busts in Pike County

16 charged, more arrests likely to come in Pike County drug trafficking investigation

http://myfox28columbus.com/news/loc...in-pike-county-drug-trafficking-investigation




Sheriff says it's "not" related to the Rhoden murders. Ok.


Link to Columbus Dispatch story, with video

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170706/pike-county-sheriff-outlines-series-of-drug-busts

Thanks for posting that.