OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #6

[KKearns]

Even if you knew they were sleeping and you had a key to slip in quietly?

You know your house sounds. Also if you have young kids, you don't sleep soundly.

 

[AlphaWolf]

FWIW....

- Most CCTV or " home security camera's" use a HDR DVR recorder ( usually a 1TB Hard drive that can store 2weeks of video ) to record and store the video ( from the camera's)

If the R family had security camera's around or inside the home....most likely they had a HDR recorder.....If the Killer/s would want all the security video....they ( Killer/s) would need to disconnect the HD DVR and take it / destroy it. ( this is possibly what LE means when they talked about the Killer/s dissembling the security camera's system)



- Th trail cam's are different as they are a self contained camera....that stores Pics and Vids inside the unit/camera.



My opinions only..

 

[zoomom]

from Betty P.: (post #128)

"How many shooters did it take? "



No shooters. People were either shanked, strangled, or set on fire (these guys were all in 3 different prisons). A bunch of people did it at the same time. (The episode was named "Gliding Over All".)


Damn! Forgot to post quote!!! Let me go find it!!!

 

[CARIIS]

LOL what?!?! Oh, Leonard. I want you to be my grandpa. What is he talking about? Is he saying that people have come up to him to tell him about conflicts the family has had going back as far as 20 years? I need better reporters on this case to ask better questions!!

Is that Bobby Jo standing behind him at the end?

I just saw it he is just priceless - I wish I knew what he was saying --but my heart breaks for him ---he was just living his life out in the country

 

[Kitsey]

I keep thinking about DR working a double. I wonder if HMR was alone, first day at home with her baby, all that time.

Forgive me, it's not really relevant. I just had a baby myself and I can't get HMR off my mind.

 

[Lindadanette]

No way.

My first objective to would to leave alive.

My speculation is based upon someone who is a sociopath, not a normal thinking person. A person who fit that description would be so high on the thrill of the kill that they would feel invincible - and unlike typical mass murderers or serial killers, they would not want to be caught - and as you rightly suggest, shot! But you are probably right as I have little experience with guns or silencers.

 

[winterrose]

I think they were doing what alot of people do where it's hard to get money, dealing local, they were into cars, car parts, selling roosters, dogs and anything else to make money. They were working regular jobs, etc, but all it takes is the one buyer or dealer they're in connect with that has bigger dangerous contacts. Messing with that wrong person, who can go in with friendly people and find out everything there is to know. They might've known this person for years.

This person can scope out everything without them realizing it, even bring a "friend" or two to buy something, and pass that info on to whoever set this up. I'd say cartel or connections like them without the family realizing who they were dealing with however maybe they knew something was wrong. It has to be the reason Dana moved a few weeks before, Kenneth was so obsessed with security, and maybe even why Gary was there.

 

[Sunday]

It takes only one look at the diagram of the relationships of those killed to immediately see that Chris Sr. was who they were targeting. They took out everyone immediately close to him, and anyone else who may have known something were collateral damage. It would be interesting to know who was killed first and whether or not bodies were moved or placed where they were found, because it seems to me that they would have wanted to punish him by making him watch his family being slaughtered before killing him. My bet is on him for the 9 bullets. That would also explain why "they beat the **** out of him".

 

[lonesomepaws]

I keep thinking about DR working a double. I wonder if JMR was alone, first day at home with her baby, all that time.

Forgive me, it's not really relevant. I just had a baby myself and I can't get JMR off my mind.

who is JMR?

 

[dayna769]

Even if you knew they were sleeping and you had a key to slip in quietly?

Exactly... FR and HG were probably the easiest in my opinion. Even if FR had a gun in nightstand or beside bed, he wouldn't be able to react quick enough. And I'd imagine HG would have instinctively tried to shelter the kids and not have tried to grab a gun. Again that's just my opinion.

 

[CARIIS]

Oh and one more thing.. Two big old country boys aren't going to sleep on a bed together. One will sleep sitting up first lol.

TY Needed a laugh!! My sense re cameras were they were reg securtiy cam ?

 

[tehcloser]

With the pot around and all the drama that brings ... I just don't think there is anyway in hades you could have slipped up on these people. I think it was someone they knew.

 

[tehcloser]

I'm also going out on a limb and guessing that pot is not a 9 to 5 business and people being up at all hours was not unusual.

 

[KKearns]

Example about knowing your noise..

About four houses down neighbors have a few chickens and a rooster. This isn't the country. They have a rooster because they are city folk and thought they needed a rooster to have their chickens lay eggs.

smh

The first couple of months that rooster woke me up, four houses down the street, two acre lots for the most part. Now if my windows are open it doesn't wake me.

New dog, small, about 8 houses down the other way. They have had it for almost two weeks. It wakes me up now every morning, when they let it out at 5 am. The pit bull next door doesn't wake me up barking in the am, but does at night.. She never barks at night unless she sees something.

I'm used to my surrounding sounds, a new one will wake me immediately.

 

[KKearns]

With the pot around and all the drama that brings ... I just don't think there is anyway in hades you could have slipped up on these people. I think it was someone they knew.

Very hard to do that.

 

[Lindadanette]

Has this been posted? A lot more personal info about the victims... http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...shooting-victims-a-closer-look-at-the-/nrD5P/

 

[lonesomepaws]

Example about knowing your noise..

About four houses down neighbors have a few chickens and a rooster. This isn't the country. They have a rooster because they are city folk and thought they needed a rooster to have their chickens lay eggs.

smh

Bahhh ha ha. I just spit coke all over my screen

 

[KKearns]

My speculation is based upon someone who is a sociopath, not a normal thinking person. A person who fit that description would be so high on the thrill of the kill that they would feel invincible - and unlike typical mass murderers or serial killers, they would not want to be caught - and as you rightly suggest, shot! But you are probably right as I have little experience with guns or silencers.

If you are going to commit murder you buy an illegal gun, not a gun or item. You had to fill out triplicate federal forms they keep forever, with a background check.

 

[CARIIS]

[video=youtube;Z3VITZ6-CcY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3VITZ6-CcY[/video] Hand gun with a supressor. It's not that loud. Add a pillow...?

I think the media/ LE leave us with the notion that noone heard anything. The only people in the area are dead. I think 31 shots were heard - that is why some were forced entry and others not IMO - people started to try and lock up . The amount of bullets indicates not instant death - so I would assume there was quite a racket - which also adds the reality that some folks had to know what is "coming" moo

 

[lonesomepaws]

Has this been posted? A lot more personal info about the victims... http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...shooting-victims-a-closer-look-at-the-/nrD5P/

and some of the info is wrong.