OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #7

[mrssmith23]

Right and I would consider those just clubs.

The 1% though, they don't like the clubs, think Sons of Anarchy for the 1%, a true gang and dangerous criminals.

They are called 1% because 99% of bikers are just people that enjoy riding and party of a club that rides and they aren't a gang.

I only keep thinking SOA when it's mentioned haha

 

[KKearns]

Didn't they come out after saying 2 had forced entry to none having forced entry? Maybe it was just a theory before someone was caught up. I don't remember.

They haven't come out and said yes or no on either of these things. Gary's father indicated no forced entry anywhere.

 

[mrssmith23]

They haven't come out and said yes or no on either of these things. Gary's father indicated no forced entry anywhere.

That's what it was then. Who stated 2/4 then?

 

[KKearns]

That was the journalist misinterpreting what Kenneth said, which was referring to his nephew CR, which would have been CR junior, Gary.'s father Kenneth, quoted in the article, being a brother of Chris senior's, and The deceased Kenneth's, late father Clarence.

The journalist got confused, which was my entire point. Until I see a report or hear from the AG that Gary only had three shots to the head, that is still speculation to me that may be true, but I take it with a grain of salt right now.

 

[KKearns]

That's what it was then. Who stated 2/4 then?

Media leaked it a while back, AG hasn't confirmed or denied

 

[gngr~snap]

I am curious as to when KR was released to go home from the hospital. That could very well explain DR arriving to work an hour late on 4/21. First night home with a newborn.?
Perhaps this was planned for a day or so earlier, but DR was staying overnight with KR at the Hospital?
MOO
It might have caused a delay if DR was a target. I feel like both of the young mothers were not targeted directly, but killed to keep them silent.

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2-A divorced couple DR and CRsr
3- - All three of their natural children FR CRjr KR
1- the significant other of HG
1-One cousins of CRsr.
(GR who was known to his best friend)
1- KR One sibling of CRsr

Are these two cousins also brothers? GR and KR?
I am thinking no.

STILL trying to discern how the "hit list" flow makes sense...
MOO


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[Adt1984]

There are some interesting assumptions and theories on here.. I'm assuming some of this comes from those who are not familiar with small town/country life.
Does someone really believe they made $25,000 on 4/20? What on Earth? I very seriously doubt that. The drugs, gangs, bikers, and violence in this area have all been blown so far out of proportion because of these murders.
Just my opinion.

 

[Everyday Grace]

A few threads backs someone said the funeral procession was gonna have a biker group.

That was probably me who originally posted that. The information came from Leonard Manley in an interview he gave to Chris Graves with the Cincinnati Enquirer last Monday.

It was a reference to the bodies receiving escort from the Hamilton County coroner's office to the funeral home in Pike County by an unnamed motorcycle club.

I do not know if it happened or not as I never saw any photos or additional articles/broadcasts.

Manley said bodies will be released to the funeral home Tuesday morning. A motorcycle club will escort them the roughly 60 miles home back to Pike County, where they will be laid out each in a casket side-by-side for the funeral service.

Chris and Dana and their three children will be buried together.

"One funeral," Manley said, "is enough.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

The only quasi-direct reference to motorcycle clubs I've seen is a fundraiser by the Red Knights being somewhat coordinated for the family by Kenneth's wife/ex-wife.

The Red Knights are a club that consists primarily of firemen. Not the kind of motorcycle club generally associated with drug trafficking.

What I have not seen as of yet among the family or their friends and associates is a pattern of any membership in an outlaw motorcycle group. My experience is that their members are usually fairly easy to discern if they use social media.

I'm not familiar with the outlaw motorcycle clubs in that area of Ohio, but I have been looking in that direction.

There has been some turf dispute coming out of Cincinnati between the Iron Horseman MC and the Detroit Highwaymen MC.

I'm still looking at Dayton, Columbus, Portsmouth, and across the river in Kentucky.

This is just an avenue of exploration for me. I know nothing that would specifically point in this direction regarding these murders. I look in this direction because SOME motorcycle clubs include membership that participate in drug trafficking; turf wars have resulted in fatal violence at times.

 

[cady]

Is DS's father a brother of Chris and Kenneth's mom, GR? If so, DS is as much a cousin of theirs as Gary was....but on their moms side. Is this correct? JMO

 

[Everyday Grace]

I am curious as to when KR was released to go home from the hospital. That could very well explain DR arriving to work an hour late on 4/21. First night home with a newborn.?
Perhaps this was planned for a day or so earlier, but DR was staying overnight with KR at the Hospital?
MOO
It might have caused a delay if DR was a target. I feel like both of the young mothers were not targeted directly, but killed to keep them silent.
A divorced couple DR and CRsr
All three of their natural children FR CRjr KR
the significant other of KR
Two cousins of CRsr.
(One who was known to his best friend)

Are these two cousins also brothers? GR and KR?
I am thinking no.

STILL trying to discern how the "hit list" flow makes sense...
MOO


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The deceased Kenneth Rhoden was a brother to Chris Rhoden, Sr.

Gary Rhoden was their first cousin and said to have been Chris Sr's best friend.

 

[gngr~snap]

Thinking about the birth, with lots of family members congregating in labor and delivery, it gives someone a good bit of time to check things out at their homes when there is a good chance no one will be home anytime soon.
In other words:
With all Facebook posts I have seen when someone is in labor, it's pretty easy to tell who's home is not occupied at the time. (as far as relatives go)
MOO

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[Adt1984]

Bikers escort a lot of funerals and are heavily involved in fund raising around here. They escorted a 10 year olds funeral, a young man who was killed while serving our country, and most recently a man who was killed in a dirt track racing accident. I would be shocked if bikers had anything to do with this case.

 

[Sharedspirit]

My sister belongs to an Abate club that offers escorts for funerals a lot. It's a common practice when a tragedy such as this has occured. They are good people who do a lot of charity work. I've seen no connections in this area to any "gangs". That's not to say a gang could come from somewhere else. I just don't see any evidence of it.

 

[mrssmith23]

Bikers escort a lot of funerals and are heavily involved in fund raising around here. They escorted a 10 year olds funeral, a young man who was killed while serving our country, and most recently a man who was killed in a dirt track racing accident. I would be shocked if bikers had anything to do with this case.

We have a biker group that holds fundraisers for terminally ill kids at "bike night" as well in our area. While there ARE bad biker gangs that exist, there are plenty of wonderful ones. Good far outweighs the bad. IMO.

 

[KKearns]

The Red Knights are a club that consists primarily of firemen. Not the kind of motorcycle club generally associated with drug trafficking.

What I have not seen as of yet among the family or their friends and associates is a pattern of any membership in an outlaw motorcycle group. My experience is that their members are usually fairly easy to discern if they use social media.

I'm not familiar with the outlaw motorcycle clubs in that area of Ohio, but I have been looking in that direction.

There has been some turf dispute coming out of Cincinnati between the Iron Horseman MC and the Detroit Highwaymen MC.

Exactly.. There is a huge difference in an MC and a 1% Outlaw MC. I don't know if 1% are active in the area. I asked probably on thread one or two.

The best analogy.. The difference in MC and 1% is like the difference in a pharmacist and a meth maker.

 

[pisces51]

Could it be that investigators NEITHER confirm nor deny the $$$$ on Kenneth story by DS because it IS an important clue connecting Kenneth to his assassin? JMO

I don't think you can conclude anything from the investigators silence since they have been silent about everything but the pot grow.

 

[Meemaw12]

Bikers escort a lot of funerals and are heavily involved in fund raising around here. They escorted a 10 year olds funeral, a young man who was killed while serving our country, and most recently a man who was killed in a dirt track racing accident. I would be shocked if bikers had anything to do with this case.

I would be too.

 

[tehcloser]

If it really was a commercial grow operation , 25,000.00 would be entirely possible. But idk how serious they were.

 

[KKearns]

Bikers escort a lot of funerals and are heavily involved in fund raising around here. They escorted a 10 year olds funeral, a young man who was killed while serving our country, and most recently a man who was killed in a dirt track racing accident. I would be shocked if bikers had anything to do with this case.

Well the question isn't about those kind of bikers but the 1% who are very dangerous nasty criminals. They are into trafficking drugs, people and guns, murder is nothing for them.

They won't do a funeral for anyone but one of their own.

 

[mrssmith23]

If it really was a commercial grow operation , 25,000.00 would be entirely possible. But idk how serious they were.

In one day? That's a lot of pot.