OH OH - Roberta 'Bobby' Snider, 70, Hartville, 4 Jan 2018 *Guilty*

[dms]

He "put her with nature" by throwing her off the bridge

Wow. Just...wow.

From the above link:

Investigators found receipts that painted a better picture of events. According to police, Philip Snider left Ohio for Tennessee on Jan. 4 and checked into a hotel near Graceland the next day. But surveillance video showed Roberta was never at the hotel.

Police said they confronted Philip with the information. That’s when he claimed Roberta died of natural causes during the trip and he, “put her with nature” by throwing her off a bridge on Interstate 90 into the Tennessee River on Jan. 6.

...so...if he checked into a motel on the 5th and disposed of the body on the 6th, where was Bobby overnight? In the truck!?

 

[flute4peace]

Thank you all for sharing your stories. They are all devastatingly sad. I have my own as well. I’m just too sad to go into them now, after a recent loss.

On another note, aren’t those huge, thick trash bags heavy just themselves? Empty?

May I just offer you a hug

So many here sharing their private & personal stories with us, and so many more who are struggling with the memories & experiences a case like this can bring.

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[Gardener1850]

Is there any evidence she got into a car with him and was alive for the first part of the trip? Have they searched the couple's home thoroughly? When was the last time Roberta spoke to someone or was seen by someone other than her husband? He is either an unreliable witness (due to dementia) or a liar at this point. Perhaps we should discount everything he has said and list what we know from LE and other sources.

 

[jade32]

I am deeply touched that some of you share their personal stories. It gives a lot more insight in dementia. Thank you and a big hug to you all.

If he had dementia that bad already, how could he drive, do all those things, etc? To me this doesnt sound like a person with dementia.

What if Roberta already "died" when they were still at home and he planned the trip to have a story and dispose of her body?

If she died of natural causes, why would you get rid of her body? Is he even capable of that?

They could use cadaver dogs in their house and the car.

I first was a firm believer it wasnt intentional. But i start to move more and more towards a possible scenario he intentionally killed her. Ofcourse there are more scenarios likely. Maybe he helped her end her life. Maybe she wanted to. But with the information we have right now, something isnt right. All my honest opinion.

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[jade32]

Is there any evidence she got into a car with him and was alive for the first part of the trip? Have they searched the couple's home thoroughly? When was the last time Roberta spoke to someone or was seen by someone other than her husband? He is either an unreliable witness (due to dementia) or a liar at this point. Perhaps we should discount everything he has said and list what we know from LE and other sources.

I think thats a good idea to start with. We dont know if there is anything reliable with what he said.

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[Limecat]

Thanks as always to everyone for their ideas and input and for sharing such personal, impactful stories. I’ve been very blessed. Both of my parents are 96, my father lives with me and my mother still lives alone, so I am beyond blessed that they are both still sound of mind and mostly of body. I haven’t personally had experiences with Alzheimer’s patients, though my uncle had it and I heard many stories. I’ve always been at a remove from it so I can’t speak to any of it.

I have to say I’m on the fence. But I can see from all your descriptions that some of the things setting my hinky meter off could very well just be severe confusion by the husband.

Still, I want to know certain things:

1). When was the last time anyone other than the husband saw Bobby?
2). Do we know she HAD cancer? We read “medical conditions “ and “poor health” but was it really cancer?
3). Do we have any confirmation of at least Mr Snider renting the Kentucky room on the way to TN? Was Bobby seen there?
4). If based in truth, when and where did she die? Was she dead in OH and was put in the car to be disposed of and the trip just a cover story? If she died of natural causes (anywhere) why not just contact 911, especially if she was dying of cancer. It wouldn’t be a suspicious death
5). If she truly passed away on the way to TN or when she was in TN, where was her body the whole time until the husband dumped her into the river. ( I just cannot fathom THIS scenario).
6). Why did mr Snider leave the hotel in TN at 3:30 am? And the whole car wash deal?

Sorry for the long post. I’m just beyond baffled. I pray she is recovered for her family’s sake of course.




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[Philigumbo]

May I just offer you a hug

So many here sharing their private & personal stories with us, and so many more who are struggling with the memories & experiences a case like this can bring.

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Thank you, flute4peace.

 

[Philigumbo]

Is there any evidence she got into a car with him and was alive for the first part of the trip? Have they searched the couple's home thoroughly? When was the last time Roberta spoke to someone or was seen by someone other than her husband? He is either an unreliable witness (due to dementia) or a liar at this point. Perhaps we should discount everything he has said and list what we know from LE and other sources.

That was my earlier question. When was she last seen alive by someone other than her husband?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Is there any evidence she got into a car with him and was alive for the first part of the trip? Have they searched the couple's home thoroughly? When was the last time Roberta spoke to someone or was seen by someone other than her husband? He is either an unreliable witness (due to dementia) or a liar at this point. Perhaps we should discount everything he has said and list what we know from LE and other sources.

All I have seen are articles stating the police say they believe him and are treating it as a missing person's case. Of course they have laid out what he has said but we really don't have much other information to list.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

That was my earlier question. When was she last seen alive by someone other than her husband?

Was he her only caregiver I wonder? Did other close family members help him tend to Bobby if she was dying of cancer or did he have to do it all by himself?

IMO

 

[always reading]

I wonder why the kids aren't saying anything.

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[Steelslady]

A lie detector test- well, maybe it could be that if they believe he has dementia, that it might help sort the truth when he answers. Perhaps his reaction is what they're looking for more than an answer, such as when asked what he did with Bobby's body, does he sweat, does his heart rate go up, does he get pale or scared, when he answers that he threw her body in the river?

Personally, I don't see how a lie detector test could help unless the FBI doesn't believe he has dementia and that he's lying.

As someone mentioned above and I have said several times, they just would not remember all these details, nor do they have the capacity to think things out so thoroughly and perform them, without fear, hesitation, or help. If he sincerely has dementia, it has to be very severe and he should not have been driving at all. I would be absolutely shocked if this does turn out that he has severe dementia and was able to be of sound mind for over two to three days i a row- that never happens with folks that have dementia. He got all the way to Graceland and back, went to a hotel and got a room without problem, knew enough to buy large garbage bags to put her in, tossed her in the river, and washed his car, then left for home at 3:30 am in the morning?

Not to mention, he would definitely need to stop for gas and food, use the bathroom. He did all of this while having dementia?

 

[Philigumbo]

i wonder if she was on hospice.

 

[Steelslady]

i wonder if she was on hospice.

I'm leaning towards no on this question because no one in her family so far has mentioned this. Not to mention, with hospice, there are daily nurse visits for medications, nurse's aids to assist with washing the patient and changing them, if they were doing this at home. IF she was at a hospice facility, they would have talked to them to find out when they left together, what time, etc.

 

[Doghairrules]

Yes, you're right! My grandfather made up a fantasy world, too, and it wasn't a happy one. There was zero basis in any past realty.

One situation, I came in and he was packing up to move. I was 16. I asked him where he was going and why. He said he had to move because I was marrying T and kicking him out.

On a regular basis he believed my grandmother was multiple different women who were housekeepers and all had numbers on their backs. He was quite frustrated with some of these housekeepers.

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My grandfather got up in the middle of the night when I was staying with them. You had to get up with him because otherwise he might pee in the closet or take off his clothes and go outside. So I did. He attacked me - threw me against a wall and left marks on my arms. When I got away from him I called my mother and when she got there she asked him what he was doing. He told her that the demon had to be cast out from me. It was a scary night. I was 14 or 15.

 

[justchrissy47]

My grandfather got up in the middle of the night when I was staying with them. You had to get up with him because otherwise he might pee in the closet or take off his clothes and go outside. So I did. He attacked me - threw me against a wall and left marks on my arms. When I got away from him I called my mother and when she got there she asked him what he was doing. He told her that the demon had to be cast out from me. It was a scary night. I was 14 or 15.

Oh my goodness...I'm sorry that happened to you. Not a memory that you want to have of your grandfather [emoji853]

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[KJ's Mamu]

I had hoped Roberta would be found by now....

Thanks to all the caregivers who've shared their stories...for those of us who've been or are caregivers, it helps to feel a little less alone. Hugs for you all!

A little off topic but with a lighter note....as I explained in my previous message my MIL with dementia/alzheimers lived with us the last three years of her life. Before the onset of her disease she was a very gracious and well mannered woman. I never heard her swear before her illness and she was extremely polite about the baser functions of the body (burping and passing gas). We had a baby monitor in her room as she would frequently get up in the night and wander. One night about a hour after I put her to bed I heard her burp...and then very quietly...in that dark room say "Excuse me". It made me smile....

 

[Elainera]

Is there any evidence she got into a car with him and was alive for the first part of the trip? Have they searched the couple's home thoroughly? When was the last time Roberta spoke to someone or was seen by someone other than her husband? He is either an unreliable witness (due to dementia) or a liar at this point. Perhaps we should discount everything he has said and list what we know from LE and other sources.

Thanks Gardener, you're always firmly rooted in reality and facts. I appreciate and agree with your post.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

I haven’t reviewed the most recent posts, so I apologize if this has already been posted: According to this article, it has been confirmed Philip stayed at another Days Inn after the one near Graceland:

“‘The police chief in Hartville contacted me and said they were getting a lot of conflicting stories from Mr. Snider, but myself and my investigators have been able to confirm that he did stay at the Days Inn in Memphis and he did stay at the Days Inn here in Benton County at exit 126,’ Christopher said.

[SBM]

‘His story to them now is that he stayed in Memphis and went to Graceland and had her in the back of the truck after she died,’ Christopher said. ‘He spent the night there with her in the back of the truck. The next day, he came back to Benton County and stayed at the Days Inn, we have confirmed that and the video showed him to be alone when he was there and she was still in the truck if the story is true.’

On the morning of Jan. 6, Philip Snider told authories he checked out of hotel in Benton County and dumped his wife's body into the Tennesee River.

‘He stated to Ohio police that he placed her body in two large black plastic bags because she had wanted to be cremated when she passed away and her ashes sprinkled to be returned to the earth as soon as possible,’ Christopher said. ‘He thought it would be better that he put her in the bags and return her to earth by putting her in the river.’

Christopher said he and two deputies went down to the area and walked the marsh area around the bridge. That was on Jan. 9.

‘We found no sign of her,’ Christopher said. ‘I contacted Hartville authortiries and they told me that he did say that he heard her body hit the water.’

[SBM]

No charges have been filed against 72-year-old Philip Snider as the case continues to be investigated. Christopher said his department and Hartville police are working together on the case.

‘Ohio officials said no crime has occurred in their area,’ Christopher said. ‘Like I said, we are continuing the search and have not found Mrs. Snider.’”

https://www.commercialappeal.com/st...s-body-river-after-trip-graceland/1054660001/

All BBM. The article does a good job of summarizing what all Philip has told the authorities so far, IMO.

May Bobbie be found today ....

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I keep hoping to read here that Roberta has been found. I feel for her entire family.

I realize LE and the family need to be cautious about releasing information. However, I would love to be able to get a few facts.

Was she in hospice care?
Was her husband her sole caregiver?
Was she on death's door when he decided to take her to Graceland?
How closely did the family follow her care/condition?
If she was so close to death, when had she last been hospitalized?

Finally, thoughts keep running through my head that there is a distinct possibility that Roberta was dead when they left on the trip. If he were suffering from dementia, did he not realize she was deceased? Could it be he was only thinking of his promise to take her to Graceland?