GUILTY OH - Sierah Joughin, 20, Fulton County, 19 July 2016 #10

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So do narcissists truly believe their own lies or do they just think that they are so smart and believable that everyone else buys it?
 
smallfry345 said:
So do narcissists truly believe their own lies or do they just think that they are so smart and believable that everyone else buys it?
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“In a sense, narcissists are out of touch with reality. They are not mentally ill, like a psychotic; they are just unwilling to acknowledge truth that doesn't match their preferences. While normal people can weigh events rationally and draw fair conclusions about themselves, narcissists do not. They lack the objectivity to live with reasonable insight because their need for self exaltation does not allow them to accept that their perceptions might not be the ultimate truth. Their idealized view of themselves blinds them as they try to make sense of life, particularly the elements in themselves that might be imperfect or that might require adjustments (and they never want to make adjustments).”

Much more at the link
http://m.bpdcentral.com/?url=http:/...ists-and-Borderlines-Lie-So-Much-24&width=412

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I'm listening to the dumb&%#$ rambling again. I didn't catch yesterday him saying repeatedly that "he thinks" her attacker walked her around from place to place. That bothers me after that alleged sighting early on of a disoriented woman walking down the street near a truck. I know we've discussed that before and I couldn't find where it originated from. Sometime when she was still missing, I think. Maybe on the ? Anyway, it bothers me. As I've said before, I just want her to have passed quickly before she fully realized what was happening.
 
I would love to see an analyst's perspective on JW's body language during his ramblings. I noticed, in the beginning, he blinked a lot. Is that a sign of lying??
 
Worley has sure “misplaced” a lot of motorcycle helmets in his day. He mentioned three in that rambling.


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I listened to his ramblings again today. I am positive a lot of what he said the “palm print guy" did is actually what he did, or what he wished he had done.
 
Spellbound said:
I listened to his ramblings again today. I am positive a lot of what he said the “palm print guy" did is actually what he did, or what he wished he had done.
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Exactly
 
Sierah Joughin's family reacts to James Worley's death sentence (with clip)

"FULTON COUNTY, OH (WTOL) -
Some in Fulton County are saying justice has finally been served for Sierah Joughin's family. Emotions were high in court, but Sierah's family got the last word...

"The pain is excruciating and the depth of emptiness we feel is unexplainable. However, I want him to know this, it may seem that he has broken us but we as a family are stronger than he thinks and because we we're lucky enough to have had Sierah's love, we're unbreakable," said Tara Ice, Sierah's aunt.

"I'll continually ask why. Why her, why didn't she get away, why didn't we find her sooner why. For me, the death penalty is what he deserves," said Sheila Vaculik, Sierah's mom.

From the beginning of the trial Sierah's family has called for two things: One justice for Sierah, which they feel happened with Worley's verdict. But two was to create some future good through Sierah's Law.

"Sierah's life was worth far more than the 20 years she was able to live. She has inspired people she did not know and I can only wonder what great things she would have accomplished if she was still alive, but in her death I know she's moving mountains," said Sheila.

Her family vows to fight for Sierah's Law which would create a violent offender registry. Her uncle explained Halloween was Sierah's favorite holiday and she would often dress up as a superhero, but now she is proving she's always been one.

"Sierah really was that super hero because she took down a killer. A killer with a violent past, the devil in his eyes, someone who had to look at traveling this path many times before. In the end our beautiful Sierah won the battle of good verses evil and we believe her sacrifice has saved other lives to come," said Howard Ice...."

http://www.wtol.com/story/37990692/sierah-joughins-family-reacts-to-james-worleys-death-sentence
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SJCaseFollower said:
The frightening thing was that I could see how he could come off as semi-personable if you would have met him on the street two years ago.
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I agree. Had I known nothing about this case, I would’ve found him to be a b.s.-er...a charismatic, harmless b.s.-er
 
smallfry345 said:
I was driving myself crazy looking for that comment about someone seeing a woman walking toward a man in a truck. I knew I didn't make it up but couldn't remember where it was said. I ended up finding Steelman's map that had a marker that quoted the comment that had been made. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...&ll=41.61431539863052,-83.97802242471619&z=14
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I’m with you. I know it has been mentioned another time also...


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Interview with FC Sheriff

<iframe gesture="media" width="300" height="400" src="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/866-WNDH-News-28494050/episode/fulton-county-sheriff-on-worley-investigation-29222636/?embed=true" frameborder="0"></iframe>




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Thanks and sorry.... I need to practice posting links. I don’t think I have ever done it right lol


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Question: On the person who discovered the burial site. Is it protocol to put a LE name to this discovery? I thought I remember a young fella stating in court or an interview that he got up early & started searching by himself along the county road. Met up with someone else he recognized & together they planned a road grid to search. He later found the suspicious area & called LE. I am just curious as to why this fella isn’t mentioned as being the key locator both in court, papers, & now on the podcast? Just pondering over thoughts sipping hot tea.


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MamaP said:
Thanks and sorry.... I need to practice posting links. I don’t think I have ever done it right lol


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And here I thought you were just being thorough in your posting :-)


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Bbybluz said:
Question: On the person who discovered the burial site. Is it protocol to put a LE name to this discovery? I thought I remember a young fella stating in court or an interview that he got up early & started searching by himself along the county road. Met up with someone else he recognized & together they planned a road grid to search. He later found the suspicious area & called LE. I am just curious as to why this fella isn’t mentioned as being the key locator both in court, papers, & now on the podcast? Just pondering over thoughts sipping hot tea.


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He was on the stand in the 2nd day of the trial. This person did not find the actual burial site. He found the disturbed corn with the first attempted burial site where the ground had been dug up and there was a rubber glove. Cadaver dogs found the actual burial site when they were brought out to search, I forget how many yards away from the first attempted site.

https://youtu.be/oZWvHW1YiMM
 
MittenScarpetta said:
He was on the stand in the 2nd day of the trial. This person did not find the actual burial site. He found the disturbed corn with the first attempted burial site where the ground had been dug up and there was a rubber glove. Cadaver dogs found the actual burial site when they were brought out to search, I forget how many yards away from the first attempted site.

https://youtu.be/oZWvHW1YiMM
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Thank you so much MittenScarpetta! This really has helped put my ducks back in the right order. :-)


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