Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

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Ok I did a little math and followed link to Brenda's case. There is a Brenda Sue Black class of 1974 Vandalia Butler H. S.
www.classfinders.com/directory/oh/vandalia/

Not sure where to go from here or if it helps. Odd Miami County Sheriff is listed as jurisdiction for Brenda's case. Would they think of looking at her and Buck skin girl?
 
No cellphone cameras in 1980. No cell phones.

Some people just don't like being photographed. Parents can usually get photos of children when they are small (though they'd not be much use for the present purpose) but some people refuse to be photographed as they get older and have some say in the matter.

This person didn't, but others have disappeared during the time of cell phones cameras and still don't have pictures in NamUs. That was my point, I wasn't stating there were cell phones back then.
 
Unfortunately I'm not seeing anything for Vandalia on classmates... maybe someone else will have better luck, though. There seems to be a lot of Brenda Blacks in Ohio

That's odd. She came right up when I looked for her....

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How do we get this to NamUs, I wonder? Do they have to verify this is the same Brenda Sue Black?

ETA: She resembles Riverside Jane Doe There's no picture in NamUs but if you google her, you'll find a PM picture. They don't have matching identifiers. I'll submit this to NamUs.
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/7139
 
How do we get this to NamUs, I wonder? Do they have to verify this is the same Brenda Sue Black?

ETA: She resembles Riverside Jane Doe There's no picture in NamUs but if you google her, you'll find a PM picture. They don't have matching identifiers. I'll submit this to NamUs.
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/7139

Contact her case worker, give them the link to where you got her pic. They will usually contact the school and or her relatives to verify its her
 
Contact her case worker, give them the link to where you got her pic. They will usually contact the school and or her relatives to verify its her

Thanks, Rose. I think Onfortuneswheel posted a link, but I didn't send it to NamUs. I'll see what Dustin says, if I hear back from him.
 
Wow, I just sort of threw that out there not knowing where to start, but you all found a picture, I hope it leads to some answers for somebody- if nothing else it's a bit more info on Brenda. I don't really have anything more to contribute, I'm just honestly impressed.
 
Wow, I just sort of threw that out there not knowing where to start, but you all found a picture, I hope it leads to some answers for somebody- if nothing else it's a bit more info on Brenda. I don't really have anything more to contribute, I'm just honestly impressed.

This is how we role :)
It's a real group effort here.
 
Great work on finding Brenda and her school photo! I posted a side by side with her and Palm Desert Jane Doe on both their threads. Hopefully it leads somewhere.

Just rereading about DNA Doe, I see DNA sequencing and the lab results should be done by mid-April. What is the genealogical analysis? Will that come out after the results? I'm not a science girl, so I have trouble understanding this :)
 
Great work on finding Brenda and her school photo! I posted a side by side with her and Palm Desert Jane Doe on both their threads. Hopefully it leads somewhere.

Just rereading about DNA Doe, I see DNA sequencing and the lab results should be done by mid-April. What is the genealogical analysis? Will that come out after the results? I'm not a science girl, so I have trouble understanding this :)

Hi Springrain, hopefully their explanation will help: https://www.facebook.com/DNADoeProj...009255824516/2029919493933492/?type=3&theater

Basically their team of genealogy volunteers goes to work after all the DNA science-y stuff has been done, and using GEDMatch, which is a database that the Doe DNA was uploaded into (similar to but much smaller than Ancestry or 23andme) starts painstakingly constructing the family tree. It's apparently really complicated and there are tons and tons of names to work through. With a lot of hard work and luck they may come up with the Doe's name after working on their family tree. How long it takes depends on a lot of factors, like how degraded the DNA was, how represented their background is in the database, etc. It can take a surprisingly short time or months and months. Does that are black, latino or Native American will probably be much harder to identify because their group is underrepresented in an already small database so there aren't as many distant or close relatives to work with. If you email them or reach out on Facebook I'm sure they'll have a much better explanation but this is how I understand the very basic gist of things in layman's terms :)

Anyone can upload their DNA results from 23andme or Ancestry, etc. into GEDMatch to indirectly potentially help solve Doe cases and help adoptees find their birth families. It's a cool database that allows this kind of work.
 
UPDATE on Buckskin Girl from the DNA Doe Project facebook page:

'Our lab has notified us that sequencing has finished for Buckskin Girl as well. Her raw data is on its way to the bioinformatics team for conversion into the files we need for GEDmatch. This may take another week or two.'
 
Thank you leilarose68!

Great to hear the update so quickly.
 
Hi Springrain, hopefully their explanation will help: https://www.facebook.com/DNADoeProj...009255824516/2029919493933492/?type=3&theater

Basically their team of genealogy volunteers goes to work after all the DNA science-y stuff has been done, and using GEDMatch, which is a database that the Doe DNA was uploaded into (similar to but much smaller than Ancestry or 23andme) starts painstakingly constructing the family tree. It's apparently really complicated and there are tons and tons of names to work through. With a lot of hard work and luck they may come up with the Doe's name after working on their family tree. How long it takes depends on a lot of factors, like how degraded the DNA was, how represented their background is in the database, etc. It can take a surprisingly short time or months and months. Does that are black, latino or Native American will probably be much harder to identify because their group is underrepresented in an already small database so there aren't as many distant or close relatives to work with. If you email them or reach out on Facebook I'm sure they'll have a much better explanation but this is how I understand the very basic gist of things in layman's terms :)

Anyone can upload their DNA results from 23andme or Ancestry, etc. into GEDMatch to indirectly potentially help solve Doe cases and help adoptees find their birth families. It's a cool database that allows this kind of work.

See my WS thread Have you done your DNA for genealogy? for instructions on how to upload to the free databases they're using. They're uploading to GEDmatch and GEDmatch Genesis. We won't see their cases, they're research only so we can't find them.

BG and Lyle should be uploading within the next week or two.
 
See my WS thread Have you done your DNA for genealogy? for instructions on how to upload to the free databases they're using. They're uploading to GEDmatch and GEDmatch Genesis. We won't see their cases, they're research only so we can't find them.

BG and Lyle should be uploading within the next week or two.

Thanks Rose! Can't wait for Buckskin Girl and Lyle.
 
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