I just wanted to clarify my earlier post, I dont get the impression Bill was hanging out with a bad group of kids. He seemed to be well behaved, well adjusted, getting good grades in school. Those aren't the habits of someone getting high or hanging with a bad crowd.
Somehow, in the months leading up to his death, he crossed paths with someone who was a bully of pathological proportions. Thinking back to his paper route, could he have come across someone that summer in the midst of committing a crime like breaking into a home, hot wiring a car, drug dealing, vandalism, etc. If so, he may have been able to steer clear of them until he started high school that fall. At that time the perps would have seen and recognized him, learned his name and where he lived, and began their game of stalking and attacking.
It would be interesting to know if the two older guys you've been discussing had prior records of juvie crime.
Bbm 1- Betty P - I second this and it goes for my earlier post as well.
I do wonder about the Valium, though; 14-15 years old is young. And, about the conversation he had with his teacher about strangulation and passing out. And why didn't that question raise any red flags with this teacher?
Bbm 2: Yes, this would explain the "sudden onset" after he began high school -someone being able to suddenly I.D. him.
BBM1: I disagree. Some start much younger with drugs and alcohol than 14-15. I was taking valium (and a lot of other things) at that exact age. It's a wonder I ever grew up ok. lol
BBM2: IF he even asked the teacher that Q. it could have been the teacher diverting attention away from him/her and back to the deceased who couldn't argue.
Definitely a very odd case and set of circumstances.
Bbm: Then my question is: why didn't this raise any red flags with LE?
LE encounter... LE may have turned south on Maple from Kanard and come up behind us. We were scouring both sides of Maple looking at bushes, trees, etc, and not necessarily looking at a car coming up behind us. He was moving at walking speed and stopped beside us. I just assumed he was "out looking" just like we were.
We beat him to scene, called 911 again, and there he was after that.
I am posting in snippets because I keep getting timed out.
I am posting in snippets because I keep getting timed out.
Bbm: Then my question is: why didn't this raise any red flags with LE?
This is EXACTLY what made me ask the question about the heavy tippers! Thanks for that opening, KatyDid23.
When I was Bill's age -- maybe even 13 (so 1969/70) -- I babysat for a family with two very little kids. The mother went bowling at 7:30, and the father came home at 8 -- and handed me a ten (these were the days when babysitters made a buck or two an hour, folks). When the two went out together, he would often give me a fifty, leaving me thinking "Wha-a-a-at?!" And though I offered to bring him change the next time I came, he always laughed and said he didn't want any change.
Well, then I started babysitting for the neighbor, a widow whose backyard abutted this backyard. The first night I babysat in the widow's house (OT, but an incredible Victorian with front and back stairways, skylight, and libraries, that burned to the ground about two years later), guess who was waiting in the car to take me home? Oh yeah. That night when he handed me the fifty, I suddenly got what it was for.
And guess what? I told myself that the main reason I was on his side was that his wife smacked their two little kids silly, to the point where one -- a 3-YO -- cut his forehead on a nightstand after being whacked across a bed. But I was bought. And I think I was dang lucky that that's all there was to it.
SisterWolf, what you say above about all the parts of the case is true, but I agree with Methodical's points about why we should stay open. I will only add that I myself am not completely convinced (1) that the notes figure into this case the same way you do, (2) that multiple attackers existed, or (3) that the motive was vengeance. When I asked the question, I was looking at the possibility of Sugar Daddy testing/grooming behavior potentially fitting another way.
Just explaining my thinking ... I am enjoying your back and forth.
In all three attacks i was out somewhere else when it happened. I came home three different times and had family say bill was attacked #1, bill is missing #2,3.