Identified! OK - Jones, WhtFem 255UFOK, 18-25, by river, dime embedded in body, Apr'80 Tamara Tigard

[Dogface]

Wait...I thought this doe was found in 1980. The card released has 1990 printed as the year she was found.

I hadn't seen your comment when I made mine(I hate how Tapatalk updates!). But that is a pretty big mistake.


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[dotr]

Good catch about the card stating Doe was found in 1990 instead of 1980, hopefully the authorities will notice it too!

 

[rats]

Yikes at that typo! Such a small distance between 8&9 but such a big difference.

 

[taramarie]

DNA Doe Project posted that they’re currently in discussions about taking on Lime Lady’s case and will update us when they have further information!

 

[madamx]

I just noticed the tattoo and the first thing I noticed a pronounced letter C which makes the left part of the heart. Could it of been a letter C then later made into a heart? just a thought.

 

[Richard]

Bumping this case up. The actual year was 1980, according to the original and a very recent update in the Doe network case file. It would seem that the Playing Card version contains a significant typo.

 

[dotr]

Just noting in case of a connection, that another woman found murdered was also covered with a white substance believed to be lime powder. imo, speculation, fwiw.
FL - Female,white, 5'4'',45-70 yrs, covered in a white powder,Big Cypress National Preserve,1978

 

[Richard]

Lime was often used in cases of mass burials when a quick decomposition was desired. If you saw the movie "Amadeus", at the end of the movie, when Mozart dies he is thrown into a common grave and quicklime thrown on him.

But as mentioned, other types of lime have a preservative effect. The Scandinavians would preserve Cod Fish with lime and later soak it in water to make it edible. Lutefisk is a popular holiday dish.

It is certainly a potential clue regarding the perpetrator's MO, and potential link to other similar cases. For one thing, it would argue against a suicide or accidental death, since the use of lime is a very intentional thing.

 

[carbuff]

Bumping this case up. The actual year was 1980, according to the original and a very recent update in the Doe network case file. It would seem that the Playing Card version contains a significant typo.

Yes, one needs to double check the playing card information. I don't think that's the first typo we've found.

 

[carbuff]

Exclusions on her Namus page: Unidentified Person Case

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Mary Lynn Andersen/Shondel 1959 Minnesota
Amy Billig 1957 Florida
Kristy Lynn Booth 1960 Texas
Lisa Jane Borden 1960 Texas
Stephanie Michele Buehler 1971 Texas
Unknown Butterfield 1957 Missouri
Rose Lena Cole 1956 California
Teresa Gail Cupps 1958 Oklahoma
Linda Davis 1946 Oklahoma
Carol Elaine Donn 1963 Florida
Susan Hallowell Unknown Florida
Margaret Hayes 1954 Indiana
Nancy Lynn Jason 1958 Maryland
Paulette Susan Jaster 1954 Michigan
Tina Kemp 1964 Delaware
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Alma Violet Root 1965 California

Updated link: Unidentified Person Case

Added to the ruleouts:

Maria Anjiras, CT
Deborah Hagler, OK
Kathleen Henson, OK

I think this link was posted earlier but it's worth repeating: DNA profile of Oklahoma's murdered 'lime lady' emerges after three decades

 

[carbuff]

Just noting in case of a connection, that another woman found murdered was also covered with a white substance believed to be lime powder. imo, speculation, fwiw.
FL - Female,white, 5'4'',45-70 yrs, covered in a white powder,Big Cypress National Preserve,1978

Another 1978 murder in Florida where lime was used: FL - FL - Collier Co., WhtFem 235UFFL, 45-70, in shallow grave, Jun'78

 

[dotr]

Another 1978 murder in Florida where lime was used: FL - FL - Collier Co., WhtFem 235UFFL, 45-70, in shallow grave, Jun'78

For a second i thought wow these women look alike, now i realize that it is a double thread for the same uid!

 

[carbuff]

For a second i thought wow these women look alike, now i realize that it is a double thread for the same uid!

It is? Wow, no wonder they sound so similar!

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

The DNA Doe Project has taken on Lime Lady!
She's currently "at sequencing lab, awaiting QC."

 

[hanpap]

I would like to add Joyce Creola Brewer as a possibility.

Missing Since: Sep 6, 1970
Missing From: Grand Prairie, TX
•Age at Time of Disappearance: 15 years old
Height and Weight: 5'7, 135 pounds

Joyce was last seen on September 6, 1970. Joyce has a scar on the underside of her left arm, the side of her chest, and her torso.

Sources: The Doe Network: Case File 1465DFTX
Joyce Creola Brewer – The Charley Project
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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According to Doe, and Charley, Joyce left after an argument with her parents from her home and it is believed she ran off with a boyfriend.

She didn't have a brother named Jack. Also, the family says that they never learned the the name of the new boy she was seeing and supposedly ran off with. She left on a bus headed for Oklahoma, but was never seen getting off the bus there. The person at the bus station who sold her the ticket remembered her buying the ticket, but did not have any information on a male who may have been traveling with her.

It is possible that she made it to OK and was just unnoticed when she got off.
I haven't been able to find a second source to this quote.
quote source: TX - TX - Joyce Brewer, 15, Grand Prairie, 6 Sept 1970

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

The DNA Doe Project has taken on Lime Lady!
She's currently "at sequencing lab, awaiting QC."

Lime Lady has "failed QC, needs additional extraction or enrichment".

 

[carbuff]

Lime Lady has "failed QC, needs additional extraction or enrichment".

 

[ADKGemini]

Updated composite:

Lime Lady Doe - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[Claireishere]

Updated link: Unidentified Person Case

Added to the ruleouts:

Maria Anjiras, CT
Deborah Hagler, OK
Kathleen Henson, OK

I think this link was posted earlier but it's worth repeating: DNA profile of Oklahoma's murdered 'lime lady' emerges after three decades

Happy I saw this was just coming to see if Kathy has been ruled out

 

[Richard]

"Lime Lady"

Date of Discovery: April 18, 1980
Location of Discovery: Jones, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma
Estimated Date of Death: 10 days to months prior
State of Remains: Decomposed
Cause of Death: Homicide by gunshot

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 18-25 years old
Race: White
Sex: Female
Height: 5'6" to 5'7"
Weight: 115 to 120 lbs.
Hair: Light brown to blond, shoulder length
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Professional appearing tattoo on the left breast of a red heart outlined in blue with a scroll-like line going through the heart. The heart measures to 1 cm. Fair complexion with freckles on face and upper torso. Horizontal appendectomy scar on the lower abdomen measuring 4 cm by 1 cm. No fractures.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Extensive dental work. Some teeth out of alignment.
Fingerprints: Available.
DNA: Available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: None.
Jewelry: None.
Additional Personal Items: None.

Circumstances of Discovery
Fishermen found the victim's nude body on the bank of the North Canadian river, east of Jones. The body had been completely covered with lime to expedite decomposition, however the wrong lime was used and it actually helped preserve the body.

The victim is believed to have been dressed at the time of the murder as a dime was hit by a bullet and driven into her body. Evidence indicates that whoever shot her was walking or running towards her when the shots were fired. It does not appear that she was sexually assaulted.

It is possible she was killed by a local biker gang.

She is known as "Lime Lady."

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Oklahoma Office of the Chief Medical Examiner Central Division
Agency Contact Person: Carlos Zambrano
Agency Phone Number: 405-239-7141
Agency Case Number: 801364

Agency Name: Oklahoma Office of the Chief Medical Examiner Central Division
Agency Contact Person: Captain Bob Green
Agency Phone Number: 405-713-1000
Agency Case Number: S80-283

Agency Name: Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigations
Agency Contact Person: Agent Jim Ely
Agency Phone Number: 405-848-6724 OR 405-427-5421
Agency Case Number: CR80-137

Agency Name: Oklahoma Office of the Chief Medical Examiner Eastern Division
Agency Contact Person: Angela Berg
Agency Phone Number: 918-295-3400

Agency Case Number: Unknown
NCIC Case Number: U172838970
NamUs Case Number: 4897

Information Source(s)
NamUs
The Doe Network
Wikipedia
Channel 9 News Archive
The Oklahoman News Archive

Admin Notes
Added: Prior to 2005; Last Updated: 11/11/18

LINK:

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