ARRGGGGHHH!! I find myself constantly perusing threads as they are filling up and being closed! The quotes in this post were brought over from the previous thread:
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Ummm....we know that the home was NEVER roped off and processed as a crime scene, that takes many days and would be the FIRST and most important place to look at in any case like this if a WITNESS said what is being rumored. The car would be in police custody and held there, it was not, as we saw it on video being driven. I have no problem with the searches and did not imply worng anything about them. But if the child was seen LEAVING THE AREA, the searches would have been centered in an entirely different location. AND once again, you don't search for him at the school if two witnesses said that they saw him LEAVE the school.
raeann, I am with you so firmly on this issue. If LE had even ONE credible witness that Kyron left the school with his step-mother, her car would have been the absolute FIRST SEARCH CONDUCTED. It is total nonsense to believe that LE would
first "search the areas they know he is not" so that no one could accuse them later of not looking in those places, and later get around to searching the last place Kyron was seen.
Logic alone will tell you that LE will search the last place a missing person is seen first!!!
Of course the story varies the further down the line it gets. It is known that two teachers saw SM with Kyron. The school superintendent reported that himself. It did kind of grow legs when it turned into "and the teachers SAW her leave with him." I think what started out as "the teachers knew SM left with him" became SAW. Which I believe is incorrect. I believe the teachers knew she left with him, but not that they actually visually saw it.
That's how most rumors start - with a foundation of truth and then it grows.
Are you sure it was said that two teachers saw Kyron with SM that morning? I've read that school staff saw him with his SM at the SF. I've read that he was last seen by school staff at a particular time, but I haven't seen that the staff were identified as teachers. TIA!
I am also curious about your last statement. I have not read any credible report about the teachers KNOWING that Kyron left with SM. I've seen RUMORS, but nothing official. So is your point that one rumor morphed into an even worse rumor? Or do you have something to base your belief that the teachers knew Kyron had left upon?
Agreed. Possibly there would be a struggle, a noise, a something. Unfortunate as it is, the SM placed herself as the last to see him. We then received more info and it was X or Y or Z who MAY have seen him last and had an unclear timeline. Well, then, things changed. I'm not picking on the stepmom; I have not said 1 thing derogatory about her in any way. I think she deserves to be sleuthed because she placed herself as the last to see Kyron before the other info came out, which was conflicting and disjointed to say the least. I dunno if SM did it, or anything, but it's more logical to follow the crime to the "last one who saw him/her." If we haven't been able to nail down sub/teacher/friend, etc., as last to be with Kyron, then who else do we have? I'm just running on logic now, and not even feelings... not until they find Kyron. THEN! I will let myself get angry at whomever took him.
I didn't know that SM has placed herself as the last person to see Kyron. I thought LE had declined to identify the person who last saw Kyron. LE did not use the word "may" in their statement about whether or not this unidentified person actually saw Kyron or not. They say the witness DID see Kyron. Has something new come up?
However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
Yep! School staff would be teachers, para-professionals, custodians, cafeteria workers, etc. We still don't know who the witness is (see above post) that LE has spoken about being the last person to see Kyron, but the time might mean that the unidentified witness is a staff member.
As tacky as it is (lol), I'm quoting myself, as it was a fact, early on, that SM was the last placed with Kyron. Ever since, we've received "maybe, I dunno, maybe he was there, maybe he was here," which is totally understandable given the day and the circumstances, as well as (let's face it) days blend together. She placed herself with him 1st, right off the bat with saying she dropped him off and saw him walk away. So far, I haven't been able to see anything different regarding dropping him off YET.
Since Kyron was reported missing on the same day he went missing, I doubt that the day "blended" with other days for too many people. There was much to set that day apart in people's memories, even in student's memories, because it was an atypical school day.
We do know that SM arrived with Kyron, that she was seen taking his picture in front of his exhibit by a credible witness, and that they were seen separately and together by others. So the time of arrival and the actions they took in the school are in the realm of "fact" for me. SM places herself with Kyron, and that is backed up by multiple witnesses, but we still don't know that she is the LAST person to SEE Kyron.
I have a 7 year old son so this really hits home.
