Found Deceased OR - Melissa Marie Jubane, 32, Beaverton, 4 September 2024 *Arrest*

[Knox]

Ugh. It's getting worse.

Difference Between First and Second Degree Murder?​

First-degree murder usually falls into one of the following two categories:​

• Premeditated, intentional killings (like stalking someone before murdering them)
• Felony murder

Second-degree murder is generally either:​

• An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry)
• A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life

The Difference Between First and Second-Degree Murder​

Putting aside felony murder, the real difference between first and second-degree murder is the intent or mindset the defendant had when they took the action they did.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/difference-between-first-second-degree-murder/

Is that an Oregon Law Link? Their murder laws are a little different - sort of confusing.

Section 163.107 - Murder in the first degree; sentence of life imprisonment required; minimum term, ORS § 163.107 | Casetext Search + Citator

Read Section 163.107 - Murder in the first degree; sentence of life imprisonment required; minimum term, ORS § 163.107, see flags on bad law, and search Casetext’s comprehensive legal database

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Section 163.115 - Murder in the second degree; affirmative defense to certain felony murders; sentence of life imprisonment required; minimum term, ORS § 163.115 | Casetext Search + Citator

Read Section 163.115 - Murder in the second degree; affirmative defense to certain felony murders; sentence of life imprisonment required; minimum term, ORS § 163.115, see flags on bad law, and search Casetext’s comprehensive legal database

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[LAborn]

Could be the abuse of a corpse be something like stuffing a body into a duffle bag or something like that?

jmo

"New court documents revealed that Melissa Jubane is believed to be intentionally killed on or about Sept. 4 by Schubert in Washington County.


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Schubert is also believed to have caused intentional harm and abuse to Jubane's body after killing her." Neighbor accused of killing Beaverton nurse pleads not guilty

 

[Sillybilly]

Good Evening everyone,

@fleetwoodmac has now been verified as an insider in this case. We don't usually verify 'locals' but as they are so close to the case with living in the same building as Melissa, we thought it prudent that they should be verified.

As a Verified Insider, they are free to post their knowledge of the case without having to provide links to what they claim as fact. Members are free to assign whatever weight they feel is appropriate to the information provided.

Please treat our VI with respect at all times. Do not bicker / argue with them, and if you happen to disagree with something they contribute, just scroll on by without challenging them.

Posts that were removed pending verification will be reinstated as soon as I get a chance.

Thank you to fleetwoodmac and all others who are here to discuss this very disturbing and tragic case.

 

[fleetwoodmac]

Good Evening everyone,

@fleetwoodmac has now been verified as an insider in this case. We don't usually verify 'locals' but as they are so close to the case with living in the same building as Melissa, we thought it prudent that they should be verified.

As a Verified Insider, they are free to post their knowledge of the case without having to provide links to what they claim as fact. Members are free to assign whatever weight they feel is appropriate to the information provided.

Please treat our VI with respect at all times. Do not bicker / argue with them, and if you happen to disagree with something they contribute, just scroll on by without challenging them.

Posts that were removed pending verification will be reinstated as soon as I get a chance.

Thank you to fleetwoodmac and all others who are here to discuss this very disturbing and tragic case.

Thank you!

 

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[LeahBee]

Taken from one place to another could literally just be from the hallway into his apartment, or something like that, right? Not saying that's what happened, but in terms of kidnaping it doesn't necessarily mean someone was taken into the woods, or to another town, etc.

Imo

 

[truthfinder2019]

I had the impression that since it took quite some time to find her, that she was not found in his apartment

 

[JosieJo]

I had the impression that since it took quite some time to find her, that she was not found in his apartment

Would they have searched other apartments immediately? Or just knocked on doors to speak to neighbours?

 

[Oregonmama]

Court has updated the charges and removed the 2nd degree murder charge after it was upgraded after the GJ findings. I know someone that had GJ last week but I didn't ask details because she took an oath but she said it was very heartbreaking.

OREGON JUDICIAL DEPARTMENT - Online Records Search

webportal.courts.oregon.gov

 

[georgiajean]

Thank you!

Thak you for going through the process fleetwoodmac!! Appreciate having someone from the apartment complex here to share information with all of us. And our ability to support you in this time.

 

[Dargon335]

Thak you for going through the process fleetwoodmac!! Appreciate having someone from the apartment complex here to share information with all of us. And our ability to support you in this time.

Agreed. Fleetwoodmac, if we can help with anything please let us know.

 

[Oregonmama]

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Washington county hasn't had a high profile case in years. I'm confident justice will be served in this case. If it happened in Multnomah county, (serves the city of Portland), I wouldn't be so confident. MOO

 

[Oregonmama]

@fleetwoodmac

Can you discuss the apartment building and how close the apts might be from each other? Is there adequate lighting in the parking garage? Are residents getting back to routine or are they still afraid, especially female residents? Do they have an outside security patrolling the building to help residents feel a bit safer? Are alot of ppl trying to get out of their lease?

 

[Oregonmama]

Looks the defense requested the discovery ( LE reports, autopsy, interviews, evidence lists, etc etc) Hopefully he'll plea Guilty soon to spare Melissa's family .

OREGON JUDICIAL DEPARTMENT - Online Records Search

webportal.courts.oregon.gov

 

[Audrina]

They were alluding to a lot but things are still sealed. I just wanted to wipe the smirk off his face. JMO

What did they allude to? You can 'JMO' it right? This case is driving me nuts because there is too little out there and thus much to speculate on. He gives me Bryan K. vibes.

"New court documents revealed that Melissa Jubane is believed to be intentionally killed on or about Sept. 4 by Schubert in Washington County.


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Schubert is also believed to have caused intentional harm and abuse to Jubane's body after killing her." Neighbor accused of killing Beaverton nurse pleads not guilty

Good God, what did he do to this poor woman even AFTER he killed her? She's only a little older than me... terrifying...

 

[fleetwoodmac]

@fleetwoodmac

Can you discuss the apartment building and how close the apts might be from each other? Is there adequate lighting in the parking garage? Are residents getting back to routine or are they still afraid, especially female residents? Do they have an outside security patrolling the building to help residents feel a bit safer? Are alot of ppl trying to get out of their lease?

Just catching up with everything! It's hard to explain distance in this building, since it is HUGE. Can I post pictures of the hallway, distance between units, the parking lot? I just don't want to get in trouble for posting things that I can't.

Lighting in parking garage - 5th floor is open to the elements. 4th floor gets light from 5th floor. The lower you go, the darker it is, but there is lighting. One does need to drive with their headlights on.

Looks like everybody is getting back into the routine of things, but when men see me alone with my dog, they make sure to keep their distance (I think to be respectful and not come across as creeps). We do have an outside security patrol, called Signal. They also patrol the garage at night in their car.

Yes, according to the leasing office, people have been calling to get out of their lease. I stop by every day (my dog knows that they have treats, so I really have no say in the matter) and when I was in there, they were getting calls from residents wanting to break their lease.

 

[Dotta]

Yes, according to the leasing office, people have been calling to get out of their lease. I stop by every day (my dog knows that they have treats, so I really have no say in the matter) and when I was in there, they were getting calls from residents wanting to break their lease.

Your pooch seems to have a sleuth's heart!
How cunning of him to stop at this Office!
Phew!

JMO

 

[Gemmie]

Just catching up with everything! It's hard to explain distance in this building, since it is HUGE. Can I post pictures of the hallway, distance between units, the parking lot? I just don't want to get in trouble for posting things that I can't.

You're a VI so you can post stuff like this.

Lighting in parking garage - 5th floor is open to the elements.

Is it open to the elements plus have lighting? How light or dark was it at ~6:30am a few weeks back? Gloomy, hard to see, clear as a bell? Parking garages aren't my favorite places. I find them creepy so I avoid them if I can.

Yes, according to the leasing office, people have been calling to get out of their lease. I stop by every day (my dog knows that they have treats, so I really have no say in the matter) and when I was in there, they were getting calls from residents wanting to break their lease.

Then they aren't thinking clearly IMO. Unless their issue is a lack of cameras, but even that might not have saved Melissa. A camera records what's happening, it doesn't necessarily deter it, although it sure helps. If their issues are that a killer lived there... He's gone now. Locked up. If it's the latter I hope the building management can help them not be so emotional about it because now would likely be the best time to live there IF you had another murderer living in the building which I HIGHLY doubt. The odds are high against it. But say you did have another guy with weird ideas... they for darn sure aren't going to act out now. Not with everyone so hyper vigilant in the building from the renters to the staff. I can't imagine 1 person walking around with blinders on in that building these days. Sure, that wanes over time, but right now it's too new and raw IMO.

 

[Oregonmama]

Melissa will be buried in her final resting place next Tuesday in Washington State. RIP Melissa.

 

[Oregonmama]

You're a VI so you can post stuff like this.

Is it open to the elements plus have lighting? How light or dark was it at ~6:30am a few weeks back? Gloomy, hard to see, clear as a bell? Parking garages aren't my favorite places. I find them creepy so I avoid them if I can.

Then they aren't thinking clearly IMO. Unless their issue is a lack of cameras, but even that might not have saved Melissa. A camera records what's happening, it doesn't necessarily deter it, although it sure helps. If their issues are that a killer lived there... He's gone now. Locked up. If it's the latter I hope the building management can help them not be so emotional about it because now would likely be the best time to live there IF you had another murderer living in the building which I HIGHLY doubt. The odds are high against it. But say you did have another guy with weird ideas... they for darn sure aren't going to act out now. Not with everyone so hyper vigilant in the building from the renters to the staff. I can't imagine 1 person walking around with blinders on in that building these days. Sure, that wanes over time, but right now it's too new and raw IMO.

I really think that current residents will be able to get out of their lease. I have seen it before when a crime like this has happened. Much cheaper to release the lease agreement than deal with multiple lawsuits. Property management just needs to write off the loss revenue in this case . JMO