OR - Militia members occupy federal building in Oregon after protest #3

[Cricket99]

I will definitely avoid Idaho County as much as possible, however my niece is getting married there in June and I can't miss it.

 

[i.b.nora]

JJ MacNab has some interesting snippets today. She is exploring Mel Bundy's role in the takeover and wondering when he will be arrested.

She says that Blaine Cooper was using the alias Jack Johnson while hiding out. She includes a post of his which be warned uses a bad word or two.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbNB98sUcAABKTM.png

https://mobile.twitter.com/jjmacnab

JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab
Mel Bundy's role in the takeover of the Refuge. "Jack Johnson" was Blaine Cooper's alias when he was on the run.

 

[LinasK]

I will definitely avoid Idaho County as much as possible, however my niece is getting married there in June and I can't miss it.

The wedding's not in a Federal building, is it?

 

[i.b.nora]

An excellent article on the sovereign citizen 'movement'. These are the guys with the "fringie flags".

‘Sovereign’ Citizen Kane
The Conspiratorial Ideology Behind a Double Cop-killer is Spreading Rapidly
by JJ MacNab
Intelligence Report
Published by Southern Poverty Law Center
Fall 2010 | Issue 139

http://deathandtaxes.com/sovcitkane.pdf

 

[LinasK]

BBM. This guy is dangerous. I think the FBI needs to have a talk with Sheriff Doug and set him straight on who has more authority on Federal property. He thinks he knows better than the sheriff of Harney/Burns county and he's basically inciting people to take over federal property in Idaho by telling them they will only face a $300 fine and he won't arrest them!!!

Isn't this sedition/treason??? Anybody know?

 

[Donjeta]

A pin-up gallery of patriots:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/15/oregon-militia-standoff-felony-charges

Brandon Dowd, a black occupier profiled by the Guardian, has not been named in the federal indictment. But he was recently arrested on an unrelated warrant in a theft case.

Dowd, too, said that he does not view the occupation as violent and that he would like to see Black Lives Matter activists research the “grand jury” model as a way to address their grievances.

“Go to the sheriff in your county, and if he is corrupt, then you need to raise a grand jury on your own and outline the documentation of the wrongdoing,” he said. “This is what this is about – finding a better way of doing things.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-black-lives-matters-activist-us-constitution

Dowd is accused of stealing a firearm worth about $600 from a 65-year-old man last May, a spokesman for the police department said.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/15/oregon-militia-standoff-felony-charges

 

[bluesneakers]

Agree. Could you imagine what would happen if a group of armed, low income minority folks took over a federal building for a month , shot at police, stole government vehicles, then booby trapped everything with bombs before leaving? They would end up dead. Why are these cretins given a free pass?

25 Years Ago: Philadelphia Police Bombs MOVE Headquarters Killing 11, Destroying 65 Homes

Today marks the twenty-fifth anniversary of a massive police operation in Philadelphia that culminated in the helicopter bombing of the headquarters of a radical group known as MOVE. The fire from the attack killed six adults and five children and destroyed sixty-five homes, an entire neighborhood. Despite the two grand jury investigations and a commission finding that top officials were grossly negligent, no one from city government was criminally charged.

Clip and more at the link:

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/13/25_years_ago_philadelphia_police_bombs

 

[bluesneakers]

 

[i.b.nora]

Only a few photos here of some participants in the takeover of the refuge but they might be helpful in prosecuting the defendants.

By Jeff Schwilk Portland based wildlife photographer, adventurer.

https://www.instagram.com/orniphoto/

 

[i.b.nora]

I don't think this got posted over the weekend, apologies if it did and I missed it.

This is The Washington Post's story on the surrender of the final four. It is the best recounting I have read and fills in with some things I was not aware of.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...711d8c-d275-11e5-abc9-ea152f0b9561_story.html

Getting to Hallelujah: The frantic final hours of the Oregon refuge occupation
The Washington Post
By Kevin Sullivan and Mark Berman
February 13, 2016

“Michele Fiore’s phone lit up as her flight touched down in Portland, Ore., just after 6 p.m. Wednesday. The FBI was closing in on the armed occupation of a remote federal wildlife refuge, and the last four occupiers were panicked.

On a phone call being live-streamed to tens of thousands of people on YouTube, the four were demanding to speak with Fiore, a Nevada state assemblywoman who had flown to Oregon to offer her help.

Fiore pulled a Sharpie from her purse, wrote the number on her wrist, and dialed.

“This is Assemblywoman Michele Fiore. Yes, I’m here,” she said.

It was the start of a long 18 hours for Fiore, and the beginning of the end of an angry five-week standoff by anti-government activists in the lonesome high desert of eastern Oregon.”​

Much more...

 

[Dr. Know?]

I thought these tweets were interesting.

JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab 22h22 hours ago
None of the "militias" actually went to Oregon, just individuals and looseknit groups like III%ers and Oath Keepers.

JJ MacNab
‏@jjmacnab
The "militias" are relatively structured. Commanding officers, required training, rules, and so on.

JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab
The Bundy men have never been leaders in the movement. They are nothing more than figureheads, an excuse to confront the feds.

JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab 20h20 hours ago
.@MarkWT7 @melaura63ltp @LesZaitz @Oregonian Melissa Cooper's sign-in sheet for militants & the list of felonies committed should prove fun.

JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab 18h18 hours ago
.@OPBnews Of the top ten names (out of hundreds) involved in the Bundy Ranch standoff in 2014, seven were in Oregon.

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/with_replies

 

[Cricket99]

Great article. Do any of these people have a clean record?
They are all a bunch of losers that are mad at being arrested for doing illegal things. That does not give a good name to any of these groups.

 

[Donjeta]

I don't think this got posted over the weekend, apologies if it did and I missed it.

This is The Washington Post's story on the surrender of the final four. It is the best recounting I have read and fills in with some things I was not aware of.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...711d8c-d275-11e5-abc9-ea152f0b9561_story.html

Getting to Hallelujah: The frantic final hours of the Oregon refuge occupation
The Washington Post
By Kevin Sullivan and Mark Berman
February 13, 2016

“Michele Fiore’s phone lit up as her flight touched down in Portland, Ore., just after 6 p.m. Wednesday. The FBI was closing in on the armed occupation of a remote federal wildlife refuge, and the last four occupiers were panicked.

On a phone call being live-streamed to tens of thousands of people on YouTube, the four were demanding to speak with Fiore, a Nevada state assemblywoman who had flown to Oregon to offer her help.

Fiore pulled a Sharpie from her purse, wrote the number on her wrist, and dialed.

“This is Assemblywoman Michele Fiore. Yes, I’m here,” she said.

It was the start of a long 18 hours for Fiore, and the beginning of the end of an angry five-week standoff by anti-government activists in the lonesome high desert of eastern Oregon.”​

Much more...

Oh it was Ammon Bundy who talked Fry out of it?

The FBI had made Arnold wait just outside the refuge. As Fry’s emotional state deteriorated, he decided to call Ammon Bundy in jail.

Bundy made a personal appeal for Fry’s surrender, which Arnold recorded and texted to the FBI. Inside the refuge, an agent played the recording over the Bearcat’s loudspeaker.

“David, this is Ammon Bundy,” he said on the 96-second clip. “I want you to know that there is a future out here. You have a future. . . . Your actions here really mattered and we love you. Please come out of there.”

After several silent minutes, Fry lit a cigarette and said, “Well, alrighty then.”

His one good deed I suppose.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Pointed out on twitter, Ammon Bundy holding a paper tablet. The picture is an inventory list of who has weapons & how many.

http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideShows?layout=2&storyId=3891465&currSlide=2

 

[Dr. Know?]

The Secret Call from JAIL that Ended the #OregonStandoff
Gavin Seim

[video=youtube;WhPmeyVoqI0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhPmeyVoqI0[/video]

This question has been brought up somewhere but why do these guys video from inside their cars? Is it because their cars are better than their house/apt/room in the basement? Or is it their new Go pro from Christmas?

 

[i.b.nora]

Pointed out on twitter, Ammon Bundy holding a paper tablet. The picture is an inventory list of who has weapons & how many.

http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideShows?layout=2&storyId=3891465&currSlide=2

Fabulous!

 

[i.b.nora]

The Secret Call from JAIL that Ended the #OregonStandoff
Gavin Seim

[video=youtube;WhPmeyVoqI0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhPmeyVoqI0[/video]

This question has been brought up somewhere but why do these guys video from inside their cars? Is it because their cars are better than their house/apt/room in the basement? Or is it their new Go pro from Christmas?

Maybe its something to do with the quality of the sound? Or, a feeling of being in control? They never do it from the passenger seat.

Anyhow, I listened to the whole thing and think he makes an unreliable reporter. Even though the Ammon tape is possibly true, I found little else of what he said to be factual. Thanks for posting this!

 

[Dr. Know?]

A better angle of the list.

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/with_replies

If that's a 20 at the bottom of the list, that's over 40 guns and here I thought it wasn't that many as short as the list was...

eta,
that 20x is scope or accuracy 2x?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDq8EMtpT8E

or this. Whatever it means, it's a bragger weapon, I guess.

http://www.gosunoob.com/destiny/kill-2-enemies-fusion-rifle/

 

[KaaBoom]

The Secret Call from JAIL that Ended the #OregonStandoff
Gavin Seim

[video=youtube;WhPmeyVoqI0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhPmeyVoqI0[/video]

This question has been brought up somewhere but why do these guys video from inside their cars? Is it because their cars are better than their house/apt/room in the basement? Or is it their new Go pro from Christmas?

Not that unusual a thing to do these days, I think.

Car Vlog: About 13,700,000 results

 

[Dr. Know?]

Not that unusual a thing to do these days, I think.

Car Vlog: About 13,700,000 results

Thanks, I know, but when you think about it, I just don't get that as the place to stream from. jmo