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It's the other way around, Dodge is in Clack. co and Larch mt is in Mult co.
Thanks for the correction, and apologies for mixing the two. I'll correct my first post.
It's the other way around, Dodge is in Clack. co and Larch mt is in Mult co.
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Some may have been inside the car door as well?
I think that is safety glaas though... Even when broken it kinda ends up in a crackly sheet? MOST of it could have been thrown out somewhere else...
I am asking not stating as a fact.
Whitney's murderer went to Parkrose High School.
On reporter, Kate Cagle's twitter, https://twitter.com/KateCagle, a guy named Brandon Sprague said this: "Johnathan Holt, guy responsible for killing Whitney Heichel, graduated from my HS. Second person in a year convicted of murder from Parkrose"
It had to be a different woman. Whitney was already dead- killed at Dodge Park. I assume LE has forensic evidence to back this up. I wonder if the woman was curled up in the tree, according to the witness, to hide her face, i.e, to avoid identification?
The new link above says that the perp knew the couple through JW gatherings. That makes me feel sick and sad, the whole JW community must feel so violated.
The article says "may have been familiar with them through Jehovah's Witness gatherings"
In another article I read that *neighbors* in the apartment complex told the press that Holt was a JW. So, it's possible the neighbors are mistaken and Holt is NOT a JW. I hope so for the reason you stated.
I'm sure clarification either way will be forthcoming.
I know I "heard" Clint said the driver's seat was pushed back. .......
I bet she drove with the seat all the way forward?
~The only sign that tragedy had made a home here was the small memorial laid out next to the Heichels door. A collection of candles had melted into themselves, flowers were propped up along the wall and a piece of black foam board, full of messages, was attached to the door frame.
Forever in our hearts, wrote one visitor.
Rest in paradise, you sweet soul, wrote another.
Just across the parking lot, in another of the complex's buildings was a second door, this one belonging to Jonathan Holt, the man police have arrested in connection with Heichels killing.
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2012/10/news_of_whitney_heichels_death.html
I've wondered this, too. Earlier, it had been suggested that he asked Whitney for a ride to work. At the time, I thought the window was smashed out there on the street, but now I don't believe it was. I think too many people in the apartments, including Clint, would've been alerted. Plus, one neighbor in a news video said she thought the tiny bits of glass in the street were from her car. It had recently been broken into.
If Whitney voluntarily gave JH a ride, I wonder where they would've gone. She had to be at Starbucks by 7:00. I think someone tried to search JH's place of employment last night and came up empty. So, was he employed? Did the Heichel's know where he worked? Or did he give a false name of a place of employment, that he knew was well concealed and didn't open until 1 - 2 hours later? I tend to think it's at that point - when Whitney thought she was dropping JH off at work that he somehow commandeered the vehicle.
I remember reports Wednesday or Thursday saying that fragments of glass were found, IIRC, at both Dodge Park and Larch Mt. LE associated those fragments with Whitney's SUV. Whitney may have locked the doors when JH got out, but that's when he broke out the window and assaulted her. MOO
From a Community SAR perspective I would love to know more about how the church group that was searching ended up at both Dodge and Larch Mtn.. I'm curious to know if this came through Clint from his conversations with LE or if LE gave them this info. or what? No way did they end up there just by chance.
Whatever the case is, I am so glad they were able to recover so much that helped bring closure so quickly. I just want to know if it was them putting things together on their own through tidbits, or if LE was actually cooperating with them, as this could be an interesting model for future searches.
There are certainly cases where I firmly believe that if the public or volunteer SAR teams had more information they might have been a whole lot more successful, so is this a case I can point to to say "see what happens when we work together" (ok, so I wouldn't say it quite like that, but you know what I mean)
My seat moves to a back position on it's own and we have setting 1 and 2... I wasn't sure about her seat... have an 03 Expedition. But my dad's 04 does NOT have that option so... I just didn't know, other than the fact that Clint commented...I noticed the position of the seat last night in the pix posted here. I wanted to comment then, but the press confr. was pending so...
I am Whitney's height and I drive a Ford Excursion. Yes, I have the seat almost all the way forward. You can see the side of the seat thru the window when it's in "my" position. I noticed in the pix of Whitney's truck that the seat was back bc you couldn't see the side of the drivers seat thru the window. I said, "Whitney was NOT the last one driving that truck" It looked to be in about the same position (back, hidden by the divider between the driver's window and the second seat window) as when my much taller husband drives my vehicle and doesn't return the seat to "my" necessary position.
Wouldn't they also have to prove the felony being committed? i.e. that she was taken forcibly rather than going with him on her own free will. It can be assumed the she went against her will but that would have to be proven in court for the aggravated to be valid correct?
Amazing! :great:Everyone who searched y'all did good!Around the same time, more church members and other community volunteers theorized how far Heichel's vehicle could travel in the window established by the ATM card being used and the vehicle being found at the nearby Walmart, said Vaughn, the family friend. They also considered places where a suspect might leave someone, focusing on waterways and wooded areas.
That strategizing yielded a big find -- the volunteers discovered Heichel's vehicle license plate at Larch Mountain. Search and rescue crews shifted to that area, uncovering a large amount of evidence over the next two days -- and eventually, Heichel's body.
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2012/10/long_investigation_led_to_trag.html
The KATU article states that neighbors of Holt's family (presumably one or both of his parents), not neighbors of Holt himself, confirmed that he was a Jehovah's Witness:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Neighbors-never-saw-Holt-Heichel-together-175099421.html
My seat moves to a back position on it's own and we have setting 1 and 2... I wasn't sure about her seat... have an 03 Expedition. But my dad's 04 does NOT have that option so... I just didn't know, other than the fact that Clint commented...
see? advances in computers could make it har to tell who drove your car last!
I think mine will return to where it was prior to shutting the car off.
I'm not sure.