Othram - General Discussion

[Melt71]

So there's apparently being a new Othram ID announced very very early Monday (Othram's social media pages). Wonder who???

 

[Melt71]

Update: Fairfax Jane Doe - RIP 17yo Choubi Gildawie VA - VA - Mclean, BlkFem 15-20, UP6470, wooded area behind apart complex, clothes, jewelry, Sep'01

 

[othram]

Websleuths thread: Identified! - VA - Mclean, BlkFem 15-20, UP6470, wooded area behind apart complex, clothes, jewelry, Sep'01 - Choubi Gildawie

DNASolves: After 22 years, Fairfax County Jane Doe ('01) is Identified

Couple surprising things here:

1. The murder victim is not African American. She is white and originally from France.
2. She was found in 2001 but as many noted, the clothing and personal items indicated that she might have been from an earlier decade. In fact, this woman went missing in 1975.

Totally crowdfunded by people like you and we are so grateful (as is her family). If you want to see other cases that need funding, check this out:
Pending Cases

 

[othram]

If you love NamUs, you are going to really love this new partnership. The Othram team could not be more excited:

NamUs Selects Othram as a Forensic Genetic Genealogy Partner

Partnership involves developing cutting-edge genomic tools to help reconnect missing and unidentified persons with their families

othram.com

 

[fred&edna]

If you love NamUs, you are going to really love this new partnership. The Othram team could not be more excited:

NamUs Selects Othram as a Forensic Genetic Genealogy Partner

Partnership involves developing cutting-edge genomic tools to help reconnect missing and unidentified persons with their families

othram.com

This is a wonderful new partnership!!

 

[fred&edna]

I'm hoping this case might get a little attention (there was an exhumation and additional testing done in 2010)

FL - FL - St Petersburg, WhtMale 1326UMFL, 25-40, prior heart surgery, Apr'80

Just found this on the Doe Network http://doenetwork.org/cases/1326umfl.html Reconstruction of Victim by Samantha Steinberg Unidentified White Male The victim was discovered on April 26, 1980 in St. Petersburg, Pinellas County, Florida Estimated Date of Death: April 26...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Caring1]

If you love NamUs, you are going to really love this new partnership. The Othram team could not be more excited:

NamUs Selects Othram as a Forensic Genetic Genealogy Partner

Partnership involves developing cutting-edge genomic tools to help reconnect missing and unidentified persons with their families

othram.com

What will be the process, meaning how are the Doe’s to be selected? Does NamUs submit them to you or do you have the ability to utilize the system to choose which ones you work on?

It is stated in the link that there is no cost from NamUs to families, LE or ME for their services. Does this mean they will be providing funding for your services as well?

This is such exciting news and sounds like the identity of many unidentified persons may be known soon or at least the ones with DNA readily available. Just so curious about the process and will stop with my questions here.

Congratulations! This is such a huge step/milestone in itself. Success in great numbers expected. Othram supercharged!

 

[othram]

What will be the process, meaning how are the Doe’s to be selected? Does NamUs submit them to you or do you have the ability to utilize the system to choose which ones you work on?

It is stated in the link that there is no cost from NamUs to families, LE or ME for their services. Does this mean they will be providing funding for your services as well?

This is such exciting news and sounds like the identity of many unidentified persons may be known soon or at least the ones with DNA readily available. Just so curious about the process and will stop with my questions here.

Congratulations! This is such a huge step/milestone in itself. Success in great numbers expected. Othram supercharged!

Yes, NamUs already provides many services to agencies around the United States. These services will now include Othram and they are also helping fund the work as well. It's truly amazing. But it's important to stress that NamUs does so much more than just fund work. They are identifying, vetting, and working the cases as well.

Othram is not involved in the selection of cases, though. We prioritize cases only based on the availability of usable evidence.

Here are two recent examples from our partnership:

The New York State Police, FBI and Othram Partner to Identify 1980 Jane Doe from Dutchess County
The Idaho County Sheriff’s Office Teams with Othram to Identify 1984 John Doe

You will notice at the end of these articles, we highlight their support:

"The services provided by Othram for this case were funded by the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs). NamUs is a national clearinghouse funded and administered by the National Institute of Justice and managed through a contract with RTI International that assists the criminal justice community with the investigation and resolution of missing, unidentified, and unclaimed persons cases across the United States and its territories. We are grateful to RTI, NamUs, and the NIJ for the support."

 

[Caring1]

Ok, very good to know. Thank you so much for clarifying that part of the partnership. It’s so wonderful.

One more question…..I had previously seen a SM post from Kristen asking if anyone knew what the name Othram stood for and there were a few guesses but I did not see confirmation of the answer. Are you able to share what it means or how you came up with the name?

 

[othram]

Ok, very good to know. Thank you so much for clarifying that part of the partnership. It’s so wonderful.

One more question…..I had previously seen a SM post from Kristen asking if anyone knew what the name Othram stood for and there were a few guesses but I did not see confirmation of the answer. Are you able to share what it means or how you came up with the name?

Othram

The Othram,[1] or simply the City Wall, was Minas Tirith's outer defense, in which was located the city's Great Gate.[2] It was described as "being made of the same impenetrable black rock as the Tower of Orthanc.[2] Othram is a Sindarin name meaning "City Wall", being derived from the elements...

lotr.fandom.com

 

[Caring1]

Othram

The Othram,[1] or simply the City Wall, was Minas Tirith's outer defense, in which was located the city's Great Gate.[2] It was described as "being made of the same impenetrable black rock as the Tower of Orthanc.[2] Othram is a Sindarin name meaning "City Wall", being derived from the elements...

lotr.fandom.com

Thank you!

 

[ChatteringBirds]

If I may suggest a case, here's a Jane Doe found at a recycling plant in Chicago in 2012. She seems to have been homeless. It seems DNA is readily available for her; she has some official rule-outs listed. Thank you.
Her NamUs profile:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[MadMcGoo]

I didn’t find a thread here for her.

After 22 years, Fairfax County Jane Doe ('01) is Identified

Fairfax County PD Teams with Othram to Identify a Homicide Victim Found in 2001

dnasolves.com

After 22 years, a female homicide victim, found near a drainage ditch in McLean has been identified as Patricia Agnes Gildawie, missing since 1975.​

 

[sasha17]

I didn’t find a thread here for her.

After 22 years, Fairfax County Jane Doe ('01) is Identified

Fairfax County PD Teams with Othram to Identify a Homicide Victim Found in 2001

dnasolves.com

After 22 years, a female homicide victim, found near a drainage ditch in McLean has been identified as Patricia Agnes Gildawie, missing since 1975.​

Identified! - VA - Mclean, BlkFem 15-20, UP6470, wooded area behind apart complex, clothes, jewelry, Sep'01 - Patricia Agnes "Choubi" Gildawie

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) 504UFVA 504UFVA - Unidentified Female Victim's sweater and jewelry. Date of Discovery: September 27, 2001 Location of Discovery: Mclean, Fairfax County, Virginia Estimated Date of Death: 2000-2001 State of Remains: Skeletal...

www.websleuths.com

 

[SolVic]

NY - NY - Manhattan, WhtFem 16-22, 1532UFNY, SK victim, burned in hotel room w/Deedeh Goodarzi, Dec'79

1532UFNY Clothing, boots and wanted poster. Date of Discovery: December 2, 1979 Location of Discovery: New York City, New York Estimated Date of Death: December 2, 1979 State of Remains: Charred; head and hands removed. Cause of Death: Homicide Physical Description Estimated Age: 16-22...

www.websleuths.com

I almost forgot this one.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Identified! - VA - Mclean, BlkFem 15-20, UP6470, wooded area behind apart complex, clothes, jewelry, Sep'01 - Patricia Agnes "Choubi" Gildawie

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) 504UFVA 504UFVA - Unidentified Female Victim's sweater and jewelry. Date of Discovery: September 27, 2001 Location of Discovery: Mclean, Fairfax County, Virginia Estimated Date of Death: 2000-2001 State of Remains: Skeletal...

www.websleuths.com

Thank you! I’m losing my touch

 

[John/Jane Doe]

New case:

Who is Columbus County John Doe (1991)?

Columbus County Sheriff's Office and NC Unidentified Project Team with Othram to Identify a 1991 John Doe

dnasolves.com

 

[MadMcGoo]

New case:

Who is Columbus County John Doe (1991)?

Columbus County Sheriff's Office and NC Unidentified Project Team with Othram to Identify a 1991 John Doe

dnasolves.com

His thread here: NC - NC - Whiteville, UnkRaceMale Adult <40, UP60202, On Blanket Near Pond, Nov'91

 

[John/Jane Doe]

New Case Fully Funded:

EastPark John Doe (2020) is now Identified

Kentucky State Police, Medical Examiner's Office, and Boyd County Coroner's Office Team with Othram to Identify EastPark John Doe

dnasolves.com

 

[John/Jane Doe]

New case:

Who is Cumberland County John Doe (2004)?

Cumberland County Sheriff's Office and NC Unidentified Project Partner with Othram to Identify 2004 John Doe

dnasolves.com