PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #5

[shotgun09]

I think the main question is how Corey Comperatore was murdered and three other men wounded, with so many red flags and warnings that day ?
Omo.

The other obvious question, IMO is Why don't we know more about TC ? The young man Attempted to Assassinate a Former President. We get bupkiss from " The Investigation". We knew more about Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby in the month following that fiasco. The press was hounding any and all who knew them for information. We knew where Mrs Oswald shopped for groceries, and talked with her grocer along with neighbors and friends.

Yet today? Our press just "moves on". " Nothing to see here".

Has there been anyone searching for info from Crooks' co-workers? Crickets.....

I find this baffling.

 

[LadyL]

I don't think calling him a kid diminishes his crime.

I call anyone whose brain isn't fully developed a kid. It doesn't mean anything legally. It's not like saying he shouldn't be held accountable as an adult. We even charge teen killers with adult charges. But the point is, to me, he was a kid. It doesn't take away from the heinous crime he committed. MOO

I know it's widely used by people but what's the first thought that comes to your mind when someone says 'kid'? I think child, not adult. All I'm saying is language is powerful and we should be mindful of that when describing murderers.

 

[acutename]

The other obvious question, IMO is Why don't we know more about TC ? The young man Attempted to Assassinate a Former President. We get bupkiss from " The Investigation". We knew more about Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby in the month following that fiasco. The press was hounding any and all who knew them for information. We knew where Mrs Oswald shopped for groceries, and talked with her grocer along with neighbors and friends.

Yet today? Our press just "moves on". " Nothing to see here".

Has there been anyone searching for info from Crooks' co-workers? Crickets.....

I find this baffling.

coworkers said he was nice to the nursing home patients and helped them get their ranch dressing packets open

What we know about the Trump rally gunman so far​

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2024/07/14 › trump-rally-gunm...





Jul 14, 2024 — When reached by CNN late Saturday night, Crooks' father, Matthew Crooks ... ranch dressing packets, an act the colleague said was ...

 

[RANCH]

I know it's widely used by people but what's the first thought that comes to your mind when someone says 'kid'? I think child, not adult. All I'm saying is language is powerful and we should be mindful of that when describing murderers.

The shooter was definitely old enough to know right from wrong. He was not a child who could not fully understand what his actions meant. JMO.

 

[shotgun09]

coworkers said he was nice to the nursing home patients and helped them get their ranch dressing packets open

What we know about the Trump rally gunman so far​

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CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2024/07/14 › trump-rally-gunm...





Jul 14, 2024 — When reached by CNN late Saturday night, Crooks' father, Matthew Crooks ... ranch dressing packets, an act the colleague said was ...

I remember that 'story' from CNN ! Hard hitting questions and answers right there !! What was TC's favorite ice cream flavor? Goodness.
It's obvious he was an able bodied socially functioning human being. He had a job. Friends? Not sure. It was reported by Grassley that TC frequently visited a local shooting range multiple times over the last year. Did he talk to anyone there? Were there any red flags raised there?

So much is not known. And reporters in the MSM are not asking the right questions. Or any questions for that matter.
IMO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I know it's widely used by people but what's the first thought that comes to your mind when someone says 'kid'? I think child, not adult. All I'm saying is language is powerful and we should be mindful of that when describing murderers.

Actually, yes. I guess it just depends on what you're used to. When I hear the word kid, my first thought is that awkward no-longer-a-child-but-not-fully-developed age, somewhere between late teens and early 20s. When I hear child, I think of someone much younger.

 

[Friday Fan]

The other obvious question, IMO is Why don't we know more about TC ? The young man Attempted to Assassinate a Former President. We get bupkiss from " The Investigation". We knew more about Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby in the month following that fiasco. The press was hounding any and all who knew them for information. We knew where Mrs Oswald shopped for groceries, and talked with her grocer along with neighbors and friends.

Yet today? Our press just "moves on". " Nothing to see here".

Has there been anyone searching for info from Crooks' co-workers? Crickets.....

I find this baffling.

Well Ruby was already a well known in Dallas.
Oswald had quite a history himself. He kinda left a paper trail since he had temporarily defected to the USSR and had numerous contacts with the US Embassy about bringing his wife to the US. Then were also the paper trail back here and in Mexico City.

Crooks didn't leave a paper trail and covered his tracks. He intended to remain an enigma like Adam Lanza.


Even with all the info back then, there are still theories about a "second shooter" and a "magic bullet".

 

[layer]

Which apparently is what TC did to enable fitting the rifle inside his backpack.

AR style rifles separate into upper and lower receivers. It takes less than 5 seconds. The upper receiver has the barrel, the lower has the stock. Any AR style rifle will fit into a backpack once the pivot and takedown pins are pushed out, and can be reassembled by pushing the 2 pins back in. Again, in 5 seconds or less. It will be shorter and lower profile than one with a collapsible or folding stock.

 

[sds71]

The U.S. Secret Service is making arrangements for former President Donald Trump to resume outdoor campaign rallies by surrounding his podium with bulletproof glass, multiple sources told ABC News.

The measure is typically used exclusively for sitting presidents, but the Secret Service is making an exception following the first attempted assassination of a presidential candidate since Robert Kennedy in 1968.

Secret Service prepares use of bulletproof glass for outdoor Trump rallies: Sources

The Secret Service is making arrangements for former President Trump to resume outdoor campaign rallies by surrounding his podium with bulletproof glass, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

The U.S. Secret Service is making arrangements for former President Donald Trump to resume outdoor campaign rallies by surrounding his podium with bulletproof glass, multiple sources told ABC News.

The measure is typically used exclusively for sitting presidents, but the Secret Service is making an exception following the first attempted assassination of a presidential candidate since Robert Kennedy in 1968.

Secret Service prepares use of bulletproof glass for outdoor Trump rallies: Sources

The Secret Service is making arrangements for former President Trump to resume outdoor campaign rallies by surrounding his podium with bulletproof glass, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

Thanks sds71 for the article…….. and not throwing at you. But an observation on the article itself.

The apparent ABC News reference notes the recent incident in Butler, Pennsylvania as ‘the first attempted assassination attempt of a presidential candidate since Robert Kennedy in 1968.’ IIUC there was a more recent outdoor attempt in a crowd with the shooting of George Wallace in Laurel, Maryland, May 1972. Wonder whether that was not considered relevant? AFAIK Wallace was a presidential candidate at that time when shot. Sadly, in addition, the 1968 attempt on RFK did result in his death.

Reference this May 16, 1972 Washington Post article by William Greider entitled ‘Wallace Is Shot, Legs Paralyzed; Suspect Seized at Laurel Rally’:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/sept98/wallace051672.htm

With the unfortunate incident at Butler, scrutiny of the Secret Service, IMO it is unfortunate that this does not seem accurately reported or analyzed? MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

The measure is typically used exclusively for sitting presidents, but the Secret Service is making an exception following the first attempted assassination of a presidential candidate since Robert Kennedy in 1968.

The law does NOT delineate different levels of coverage, protection or distinction of a current and former presidents.

Nope, this is something the SS have come up with on their own.

I will be delighted when Senator Graham receives the SS policies the House Congressional Committee requested. He and others on the committee are attorneys. They will not only look at the policy, compared to the existing law, who generated and approved, discrepancies/discrimination and violations.

Oh yeah, may take months but Congressional Committees have the authority to subpoena, barring a Presidential Executive Order, resulting in litigation.

Moo....

 

[Seattle1]

The law does NOT delineate different levels of coverage, protection or distinction of a current and former presidents.

Nope, this is something the SS have come up with on their own.

^^rsbm

I think this came up last year with the house bill titled “Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable (DISGRACED) Former Protectees Act,” introduced by Rep Bennie Thompson (D-Miss).

The 'Act' would nix the lifelong protection given to former presidents if they are convicted and sentenced for a felony that carries a year or more in prison time.

Secret Service protections are not just afforded to current and former presidents but also other high ranking officials and immediate family members of protectees.

But Trump is the only protectee facing felony charges — 91 various felony charges across four different state and federal cases.

I don't think its disputed that the 'Act' was inspired last year after Trump was indicted and a trial date was set for the his "hush money" trial. Had the bill already been enacted, Trump would have lost Secret Service protection as of May 31, 2024 when he was convicted. I think the momentum for this legislation may have died following the assassination attempt on the former President. Still defending the bill during the assassination attempt hearings, I recall Rep Thompson faced sharp criticism. JMO

4/19/24

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4605774-former-jan-6-panel-chair-bill-secret-service-protection-felons/

 

[Luna20]

Secret Service investigating report agent left post to breastfeed during Trump campaign event
Secret Service investigating report agent left post to breastfeed during Trump campaign event

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Secret Service investigating report agent left post to breastfeed during Trump campaign event
Secret Service investigating report agent left post to breastfeed during Trump campaign event

Is this true? I’m all into motherhood and nursing but I take from this that a female SS agent brought her baby with her while she was on duty? How can you give your full attention to a job like being a SS agent and know your infant is somewhere on the premises and will need periodic feedings? The situation goes beyond leaving your duty/protectee for 45 mins. What about the risk of explosives or poison gas?

My kids had an intolerance to formula so it was “me” or nothing but when I couldn’t be around I provided “me” in those little plastic bags that fit in a frame with a screw-on nipple to form a bottle. I kept a freezer full of those bags all ready for periodic baby sitters. If there is a need for 100% mom’s milk there are ways to provide without bringing the baby along to a security intense job. Good grief. OMO.

 

[Sundog]

The law does NOT delineate different levels of coverage, protection or distinction of a current and former presidents.

Nope, this is something the SS have come up with on their own.

<snipped for focus>

Well said, the statement that this is the law does seem very odd as it would be based on some kind of arbitrary categorization rather than a security plan based on threat assessment.

 

[Sundog]

Is this true? I’m all into motherhood and nursing but I take from this that a female SS agent brought her baby with her while she was on duty? How can you give your full attention to a job like being a SS agent and know your infant is somewhere on the premises and will need periodic feedings? The situation goes beyond leaving your duty/protectee for 45 mins. What about the risk of explosives or poison gas?

My kids had an intolerance to formula so it was “me” or nothing but when I couldn’t be around I provided “me” in those little plastic bags that fit in a frame with a screw-on nipple to form a bottle. I kept a freezer full of those bags all ready for periodic baby sitters. If there is a need for 100% mom’s milk there are ways to provide without bringing the baby along to a security intense job. Good grief. OMO.

We're seeing more and more issues within the SS, unbelieveable that someone would leave their post and duties without permission by the site leader or even letting them know she was going off duty - or worse, on duty in an undisclosed location with an infant. And, as you say above, putting that infant at risk for its life.

 

[Friday Fan]

Secret Service investigating report agent left post to breastfeed during Trump campaign event
Secret Service investigating report agent left post to breastfeed during Trump campaign event

That sounds really weird. Seriously.

Did this happen in the past? Bring your kid to work as a SS agent?

Did a family member bring the baby from home? (Like a one time thing just for breastfeeding?) Or a family member was attending the event and brought the baby. I'm trying to figure out the logistics of this and how this even happened....

 

[Friday Fan]

Secret Service approves new plan for Trump to continue outdoor rallies​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/15/secret-service-trump-rallies-bulletproof-glass/

Gifted link:

https://wapo.st/3X5MOgO

 

[Friday Fan]

The law does NOT delineate different levels of coverage, protection or distinction of a current and former presidents.

Nope, this is something the SS have come up with on their own.

I will be delighted when Senator Graham receives the SS policies the House Congressional Committee requested. He and others on the committee are attorneys. They will not only look at the policy, compared to the existing law, who generated and approved, discrepancies/discrimination and violations.

Oh yeah, may take months but Congressional Committees have the authority to subpoena, barring a Presidential Executive Order, resulting in litigation.

Moo....

It's through the Dept of Defense.

The DOD works through the SS to provide bolstered security for sitting presidents and vice presidents.

Article is in the post below with details about the DOD.

PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #5

I think the main question is how Corey Comperatore was murdered and three other men wounded, with so many red flags and warnings that day ? Omo. The other obvious question, IMO is Why don't we know more about TC ? The young man Attempted to Assassinate a Former President. We get bupkiss...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Simply Southern]

It's through the Dept of Defense.

The DOD works through the SS to provide bolstered security for sitting presidents and vice presidents.

Article is in the post below with details about the DOD.

PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #5

I think the main question is how Corey Comperatore was murdered and three other men wounded, with so many red flags and warnings that day ? Omo. The other obvious question, IMO is Why don't we know more about TC ? The young man Attempted to Assassinate a Former President. We get bupkiss...

www.websleuths.com

Thanks for the article. The structure, set up and delivery appears to be through the DOD. I'm sure they have better logistical capabilities. I noticed on their website they provide training for SS and other agencies. That's comforting to know.

The SS has their own specific policy and producure manual.
SS reports to Homeland Security.
Moo
ETA...with the heighten threat level we may see these types of structured used more frequently for other protectees.