GUILTY PA - Carlesha Freeland-Gaither, 22, Germantown, 2 November 2014 - #1

[margarita25]

Is there a media/timeline thread for Carlesha? What's the latest msm? Tia.

 

[margarita25]

(Banning myself)

(eta: just want to say expletives)

 

[FindHG]

I don't know, maybe similar?
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Thanks for perp's the picture links below

 

[margarita25]

At this point, I am hoping he was a stalker that is obsessed with her. Because maybe that will keep her alive. But if he just wanted her atm card and pin number, then,,,,:cry:

Weird, I think the opposite...robbery she stands a chance, as opposed to obsession/sexual predator...


(not caught up here)

 

[margarita25]

My opinion is that she was subdued by the end of the video (bumper bouncing for extended time period)...

Either restrained or incapacitated (leaning toward the later), imo.

 

[margarita25]

Reminds me of the killings in Dearborn at the Family Dollar store last summer (two employees were killed)
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Yes, yes, not tooting my own horn, but I knew where B's body was going to be. Nailed it within a few ft iirc. RR tracks a couple miles away iirc?

 

[FindHG]

View attachment 62820 is this ok?

Yes, thank you. I picked some, but I don't think any of them are him. He has long sharp pointed up eyes; high cheeck bones, a face that widens at the jaw which is set high, smallish nose, straight line down and up in side view of it, a bit pointed down at the tip.

 

[katydid23]

Weird, I think the opposite...robbery she stands a chance, as opposed to obsession/sexual predator...


(not caught up here)

I agree. Usually robbery gives one better odds of staying alive. But this guy went to great lengths to get her in the car. He seemed to want more than just her wallet. imo

I agree that obsessed stalkers are very violent. I was just hoping that maybe he was keeping her alive to spend more time with her. Although statistically it is not likely. :cry:

 

[FindHG]

You see in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RxBZY7j_dM
played .25 speed youtube time
2:02 secs his left arm is swinging as he pivots and follows her, then swings more broadly as she turns and faces him.
2:04 they shake hands
2:06 his left hand is in his belly area hidden.
2:08 you see her back away, then he springs at her.
2:09 you see a glint high by their heads, a glint up by their heads again at 2:11, by 2:12 you don't see it anymore.
2:14 an item flies up to the left past a car, her head is down, his right arm forcing it.
2:19 you see his right hand around the back of her neck, perhaps a glint by her neck.
2:25 to 2:27, as she's managed to pull herself away from the car, you see some item to the left, just behind the car, around the time she's kicking.
2:28, Carlesha Gaither is on the ground, for a bit. She is then turned around, with her head now toward the car. He's over her and she struggle less for a bit, then he drags her into the back seat, you see evidence of a struggle as the car moves until
2:41, where you catch a glimpse of him as he may have slammed the back driver's side door shut.
2:47 to :50, the light goes on when it flickers, then back on at :51 until :58 (all the while the tail end is moving, and the other car starts backing off).
3:05, the light goes on, there's a last bounce at 3:08, the car stills
3:11 the brake lights turn off and the car pulls out at 3:12.

cleaned it up

 

[Abstar80]

Has it been stated which HighSchool she attended? That would be very helpful.

 

[FindHG]

I agree. Usually robbery gives one better odds of staying alive. But this guy went to great lengths to get her in the car. He seemed to want more than just her wallet. imo

I agree that obsessed stalkers are very violent. I was just hoping that maybe he was keeping her alive to spend more time with her. Although statistically it is not likely. :cry:

I think he parked, layed in wait and may have had it timed to drag her back from the dark place before the cross walk, but she was onto him and did that little evasive turn and he pivoted to follow. She had her guard up and drew his knife hand out. It seems planned and deliberate from where we see his car turn the corner.

 

[strawb93]

My take on the handshake video is that he offers her something, I can't think what, says shes dropped something maybe, she puts her hand out to take it and he doesn't let go of whatever it is. She begins to back away but he grabs her wrist and then lunges to grab her.

JMO but thats how it seems to me as I watch it.

 

[Abstar80]

I think give it another 12-24 hours and they will have their guy...

Either he is some kind of special moron, not 100% mentally there, or just brazen as hell.....Any of these three things will make sure he gets caught. So far he has not tried to hide his identity at all. Unless he has just recently emerged from living with wolves than he would have to know that there is CCTV all over the place these days..I really think that this case should be studied in crime classes...A victim who does everything right and a perp who does everything wrong, yet still has the cops on a wild goose chase.

 

[TTF14]

When will they release audio of the abduction?

I doubt they will. Too disturbing for normal people, and too enjoyable for sickos who'd get off on hearing her screaming. I don't see any benefit in releasing the audio to the public. If she'd said his name, only LE needs to hear it.

IMO, MOO

 

[FindHG]

My opinion is that she was subdued by the end of the video (bumper bouncing for extended time period)...

Either restrained or incapacitated (leaning toward the later), imo.

How did he get her pin?

 

[frisson]

On the youtube video linked below at 2:24 in the background there is someone walking (our right) right screen to left, but it looks like it's further past the intersection. This person is walking at the same time when the abductor is struggling to get her into the car, so the eye goes to them of course, but there's someone in the background.

At 2:47 in the background it looks like someone walking (our) right to left then he slows.... backs up a few steps.... then continues. If you haven't seen this, it's a must see imo.

In other words, from 2:20 start watching only the background at the intersection and what looks like just past the intersection. Someone is back there and at some point it is hardly perceptible and you have to watch several times. At one point he is just a small moving shadow. Or maybe I'm cray.

Also, at time 2:55 or so just when we're watching for that car in the foreground of the shot (the witness) to start backing up... at that time, look in the background going from our (the viewers) right to left, at the intersection, there is someone walking then maybe running.

Just throwing that in since I didn't see it mentioned. If it was mentioned already. Apologies for the repeat.

Also, I see her wearing a backpack. It seems she's walking backwards for a few steps, facing him, at 1:59, when she's crossing the street just before she reaches the curb; It looks to me like she's walking backwards away from him just before he gets close enough to touch her.... just before her hand goes out toward him. I wonder if he said something that made her turn around. I wish we had sound.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RxBZY7j_dM

I try to read the whole thread before I post so as not to repeat things someone already said, but I'm new and on a quick sidenote... help? I log in, click the "remember" box, but I still get logged out and lose my place. So I probably miss some posts if I go to/remeber the wrong page rather than where I last left off reading. I'm doing something wrong, but what? TIA.

 

[2Hope4]

It was stated she had a backpack. No idea what she typically carried with her, or what she would have had in it.

PIN number. surprising but many people have it written down in their wallet, or even on the card. Some people will even use the 4 digits the bank prints on the cards! Of course he could have told her he would let her go once he got the PIN number, and she told him. Just don't know yet.

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aryland-reward-raised-42-000-information.html

Pictured: 'Person of interest' caught on camera using ATM card belonging to woman abducted from a Philadelphia street as her family say an ex-boyfriend was 'obsessed' with her

Crime scene investigators who were seen working at the site of the kidnapping Monday recovered a glove and a knife.

bbm

 

[TTF14]

I have some comments about the youtube video (link below) but first - I try to read the whole thread before I post so as not to repeat things someone already said, but I'm new and on a quick sidenote... help? I log in, click the "remember" box, but I still get logged out and lose my place. So I probably miss some posts if I go to/remeber the wrong page rather than where I last left off reading. I'm doing something wrong, but what? TIA.

Back to the case, on the youtube video below at time 2:55 or so just when we're watching for that car in the foreground of the shot (the witness) to start backing up... at that time, look in the background going from our (the viewers) right to left, at the intersection, there is someone walking then running.

There's another youtube video that I watched last night and the same thing was visible to me, but IIRC the time was at the 2:38 mark.

I just mention it in case some of you are looking at the other video, but you can find it by watching any video version if you look for that car to back up; but then instead of watching for the backing up car, look in the background at the intersection. Someone is crossing on foot right screen to left. Just throwing that in since I didn't see it mentioned. If it was mentioned already. Apologies for the repeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RxBZY7j_dM

I saw that person in the background, too, but couldn't quite tell if he/she was walking or running.

As far as your password issue, maybe it's an issue with your browser? Do you have "never save passwords" checked in your settings or something?

 

[2Hope4]

It was stated she had a backpack. No idea what she typically carried with her, or what she would have had in it.

PIN number. surprising but many people have it written down in their wallet, or even on the card. Some people will even use the 4 digits the bank prints on the cards! Of course he could have told her he would let her go once he got the PIN number, and she told him. Just don't know yet.