GUILTY PA - Ellen Robb, 49, beaten to death, Montgomery County, 22 Dec 2006
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No mention of a previous marriage in there at all. Why is this first marriage so secretive do you think? It's in the arrest warrant and the DA discussed on TV so it surely existed. Odd don't you think? :waitasec:luthersmama said:
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I'm so glad someone here is able to get that to Olivia. I know she is with family but I bet she could use some of her friends right now more than ever.AWL said:
It's good to know that Olivia has so many caring friends. It will be important for her to keep in touch with them.
Our neighborhood is safe....justice is being served....and Ellen is in peace, though moving forward will be difficult.
Our neighborhood is safe....justice is being served....and Ellen is in peace, though moving forward will be difficult.
I am interested in information about a former wife also. I agree that after 20 years he still wouldn't be paying her anything, and maybe didn't ever pay alimony at all.
If they married and divorced young, it could just be a matter of giving up 1/2 of his stuff. For some, that is too much. Half of "not much" is still half of your stuff and can leave people very bitter.
It's possible that he was in school when he was married and this spouse may have been entitled to future earnings. Even if she didn't take advantage of that, and take him for future earnings, it could have been used as leverage to get something else from him.
This could be the situation that "taught" him to hide his assets in a foreign country.
We need more info!!!!!
If they married and divorced young, it could just be a matter of giving up 1/2 of his stuff. For some, that is too much. Half of "not much" is still half of your stuff and can leave people very bitter.
It's possible that he was in school when he was married and this spouse may have been entitled to future earnings. Even if she didn't take advantage of that, and take him for future earnings, it could have been used as leverage to get something else from him.
This could be the situation that "taught" him to hide his assets in a foreign country.
We need more info!!!!!
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Luthersmama:
What did you mean with "send it home to Israel?" Is Robb an Israeli citizen?
What did you mean with "send it home to Israel?" Is Robb an Israeli citizen?
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He was born in Israel, yadler, and immigrated to the US for graduate studies.
I heard in some broadcast he might have duel-citizenship, but one of the articles I read this morning, the one in the Phil. Inquirer sidebar, I believe, stated that he was an American citizen.
I heard in some broadcast he might have duel-citizenship, but one of the articles I read this morning, the one in the Phil. Inquirer sidebar, I believe, stated that he was an American citizen.
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lisafremont said:
I heard the same about him being a duel citizen too. Wonder if his first wife was in Israel and thats why it's difficult to get the information. If he was married in the US then LE should have no trouble getting the information.
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His mother still lives in Israel and his sister lives in Jeruselem according to the article.
I didn't follow this case until I saw the clip of the funeral over the weekend. My jaw just dropped and hit the floor. I do have one question I didn't see posted. I've been reading these posts all morning and now into the afternoon. He had a cell phone, but did they check to see where and what time he was in any areas? Or was he so close to home he would have only been on one tower?
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Good question and I am very sure police have checked that out. They think he killed her after he returned home from dropping his daughter off at school and he has already said he was at home during that time. He created the alibi after with the University and the Wa-wa for a soda (made sure to get a parking ticket) which both check out. When he left home he said he went to the fruit market for the 40 minute shopping spree but of course no one saw him there! I don't think cell records would really help either way right now. JMOOCKgram said:
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From this state dept info, it appears that once you are born an Israeli citizen, you remain an Israeli citizen even if you also become a US citizen:
"Dual Nationality: Israeli citizens naturalized in the United States retain their Israeli citizenship, and children born in the United States to Israeli parents usually acquire both U.S. and Israeli nationality at birth. Israeli citizens, including dual nationals, are subject to Israeli laws requiring service in Israel's armed forces, as well as other laws pertaining to passports and nationality. U.S.-Israeli dual nationals of military age who do not wish to serve in the Israeli armed forces should contact the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. to learn more about an exemption or deferment from Israeli military service before going to Israel. Without this exemption or deferment document, they may not be able to leave Israel without completing military service or may be subject to criminal penalties for failure to serve. Israeli citizens, including dual nationals, must enter and depart Israel on their Israeli passports, and Israeli authorities may require persons whom they consider to have acquired Israeli nationality at birth to obtain an Israeli passport prior to departing Israel, even if said persons are neither aware of their Israeli nationality nor have any desire to maintain it."
He probably has two passports. From this, I gather that Olivia could become an Israeli citizen as well.
"Dual Nationality: Israeli citizens naturalized in the United States retain their Israeli citizenship, and children born in the United States to Israeli parents usually acquire both U.S. and Israeli nationality at birth. Israeli citizens, including dual nationals, are subject to Israeli laws requiring service in Israel's armed forces, as well as other laws pertaining to passports and nationality. U.S.-Israeli dual nationals of military age who do not wish to serve in the Israeli armed forces should contact the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. to learn more about an exemption or deferment from Israeli military service before going to Israel. Without this exemption or deferment document, they may not be able to leave Israel without completing military service or may be subject to criminal penalties for failure to serve. Israeli citizens, including dual nationals, must enter and depart Israel on their Israeli passports, and Israeli authorities may require persons whom they consider to have acquired Israeli nationality at birth to obtain an Israeli passport prior to departing Israel, even if said persons are neither aware of their Israeli nationality nor have any desire to maintain it."
He probably has two passports. From this, I gather that Olivia could become an Israeli citizen as well.
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Any transmissions would have hit multiple towers. But there would be a ping only if the phone was turned on and making and receiving calls. Maybe it was turned off the whole time.
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I can tell you that if you park in front of that Wawa you are guaranteed a parking ticket. That street is a major street in the city and the cops patrol faithfully. It would have been easier for him to get a soda at a vending cart or at the office than to park and go in Wawa. That was done intentionally for sure.
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Oh I don't doubt for a second it was his lame attempt at some sort of alibi! Thats why I don't think he planned this in advance. He was trying to create an alibi and stage a crime scene all after the fact and didn't have much time to do it.winteryns said:
I don't know where I saw it but someone was commenting about this over the weekend. A Lawyer or someone in LE was actually starting to laugh saying it's a known fact if you park for over 30 seconds and don't pay you get a ticket. If it wasn't so sad for Ellen and Olivia and the rest of the family it sounds like a bad sketch from saturday night live. Calling the cops saying someone cracked her head, pretending to carry the coffin while dressed in crappy old clothes and asking the undercover cop to meet him for a drink. Wonder if he is, or should I was a heavy drinker?winteryns said:
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I am almost positive there aren't even parking meters there and believe it's a loading zone for delivers only. I will have to check.Kgram said:
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winteryns said:
That is my recollection as well. There are also some driveways that you can't block, a bus stop and a couple of hydrants. It is nearly impossible to get a spot there. Most of the Wawa patrons are students on foot.