PA - Grace Packer, 14, murdered, Abington, 4 July 2016 *Killer died*

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If Grace had had drugs in her system at birth, she may have had a diagnosis that followed her into her schooling. She may have had birth to 3 services as well. If she had a disability, you might not know it ever because she has a right to FERPA and HIPPA privacy.

SSI for children with disabilities is not a program that just takes adoption paperwork and signs off. You have doctor paperwork, school paperwork, and other independent provider paperwork. Often the amount paid is not high. It is not easy to get disability payments for children. Many kids get denied and their parents need to appeal. If she got payments, I would bet she did have a disability documented beyond her mother entering a code during the adoption process. .

I know students who get disability throughout school b/c they have Autism and the disability payments helps them to afford services. Upon turning 18 many of my students do not get continued disability as they have to be reevaluated. This may have been the case for Grace.

According to people who knew her on FB, Grace spent her off time helping kids with disabilities. I'd imagine, from foster/foster to adopt kids that I know personally, it doesn't matter Grace's abilities or lack thereof, her adopted family was not in it to nurture and provide a wonderful, loving home but it was really a bizarre and horrifying case of basically sex trafficking. There are women who facilitate this and get a kick of their own out of it but the fact that she (adoptive mom) was placing kids is beyond frightening.


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SP told the police that Grace had an "emotional disorder" and "behavioral issues"; I figured that was why she was labeled as having a disability. She did get disability payments for her, and the amount is what you'd expect for a disabled child. Also, the school noticed that her letter was too advanced for her skills--a typical 14-year-old is nearly at adult level in writing, so Grace might have been behind.

My working theory is this: Grace, because she was adopted, and because she was mistreated, had some kind of emotional or learning disability--the sort that children get when they aren't loved and don't get a safe environment to grow up in; the PTSD and attachment issues from abuse, the emotional instability from dealing with an erratic, abusive parent.

She may have had some physical issues--that medical implant suggests she did. But it could have been anything--an ear tube, a shunt, screws and plates to fuse broken bones or straighten a crooked spine; a pacemaker or automatic insulin pump; a cochlear implant. There are so many possibilities, and not all of them imply a disability.

If SP actually thought that Grace was disabled, she may have used it as a way to rationalize to herself that Grace was disposable, not really going to amount to anything. On the other hand, she might have used the label of "disabled" just to get that monthly payment, and believed that Grace was a rebellious, badly-behaved teenager who needed to be kept in line.

One thing I do know: If Grace was rebellious, then it was because she was fighting to survive.

Your post is so poignant regarding Grace. I bolded the last line because I truly believe that is exactly what Grace was doing. She was a beautiful child and I think SP was jealous of her. I don't know. How could anyone do that to another human much less your child?
 
Afik she had no diagnosed disability and the social security checks were only because she was adopted through the state foster system.


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Frankly, I don't care one fig whether she has PCOS, PTSD, PMS or any other combo of letters. She's 100% a that watched while her BF raped a child entrusted to her care. She deserves the DP. As does her BF.

Yes! Too bad they will have it so much easier than Grace.
 
According to people who knew her on FB, Grace spent her off time helping kids with disabilities. I'd imagine, from foster/foster to adopt kids that I know personally, it doesn't matter Grace's abilities or lack thereof, her adopted family was not in it to nurture and provide a wonderful, loving home but it was really a bizarre and horrifying case of basically sex trafficking. There are women who facilitate this and get a kick of their own out of it but the fact that she (adoptive mom) was placing kids is beyond frightening.


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Yes! Beyond sick. Sex trafficking their own child. I'm scared there is more that will come out regarding Grace's brother.
 
PA has the death penalty however there are a large number of criminals on DR that are waiting as DP was suspended in 2015. These 2 adults should face DP and PA should finally execute. jmo (per Washington Post 2/13/2015) (on ipad and cannot repost sorry)
 
Sara Packer was a foster parent to numerous children over the years, said Abington police Detective Cindy Pettinato, who started working the case when Grace was reported missing from her Montgomery County home in July. She said she knew of seven foster children that Sara Packer had in her care since 2004, but did not know of any investigations involving those children.
http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...erment-northampton-county-20170109-story.html

I cannot imagine a world where they (LE) wouldn't be all over this, already. There's just no way this was SP's first rodeo. No way at all.
 
http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...erment-northampton-county-20170109-story.html

I cannot imagine a world where they (LE) wouldn't be all over this, already. There's just no way this was SP's first rodeo. No way at all.

I agree. This is very disturbing. As a resident of montgomery county, but a different township, I'm appalled that this seemed to be low on the priority list of detectives. I find this whole case disturbing on many levels and am heartsick over what sweet Grace endured. I wish our state actually used the death penalty because these two monsters deserve it. SP's past needs to be thoroughly investigated, there is so much wrong with this.


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PA has the death penalty however there are a large number of criminals on DR that are waiting as DP was suspended in 2015. These 2 adults should face DP and PA should finally execute. jmo (per Washington Post 2/13/2015) (on ipad and cannot repost sorry)

I'm wondering if the delays are due to the shortage of the drug they use. Texas has even slowed on our executions. Georgia has bypassed Texas in the number of executions being performed.

I found your article Ms. Josie.

Pennsylvania’s governor suspends the death penalty

The decision was criticized by the Pennsylvania District Attorneys Association, which said the governor was misusing his power.

“A moratorium is just a ploy,” the association said in a statement. “Make no mistake, this action is not about waiting for a study– it’s about the governor ignoring duly enacted law and imposing his personal views against the death penalty.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nds-the-death-penalty/?utm_term=.12aafe9d844d
 
Authorities say Sara Packer, 41, kept cashing her daughter’s monthly $700 Social Security checks, and updated the disability forms in August without mentioning the girl’s disappearance. The disability checks were intended for her daughter, who dealt with emotional issues, reports CBS Philly. Sara Packer collected more than $3,600, according to the station.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grace-p...-dismembered-adoptive-mom-person-of-interest/
 
http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...erment-northampton-county-20170109-story.html

I cannot imagine a world where they (LE) wouldn't be all over this, already. There's just no way this was SP's first rodeo. No way at all.

Pardon me, but Good Lord!


Pettinato said Packer and her ex-husband took in Grace and her siblings — a younger brother and older sister — in 2004, when Grace was 3. They later adopted them through Berks County Children and Youth Services, she said. Grace's biological mother lives in Berks County, officials said.

Where in the he!! is Grace's older sister?
 
Where in the he!! is Grace's older sister?

This may be why she is not being discussed. I wonder if it was the older sister who had been assaulted and is no longer in the home. We haven't heard whether or not there has been a children services open case in this families history. But, one would hope there was after that father was found to have had not one but two charges, although we don't know if it was a family member or not.

"She left that job nearly a year before her husband at the time, David Warren Packer, was charged by Allentown police in the first of two child sex abuse cases.

On Sept. 23, 2010, he was charged with indecent assault of a victim under age 13 from a 2006 incident. On Nov. 24, 2010, he was charged by Allentown police in a separate filing of statutory sexual assault, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse of someone under age 16 and corruption of minors from a 2008 incident." http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...erment-northampton-county-20170109-story.html
 
This may be why she is not being discussed. I wonder if it was the older sister who had been assaulted and is no longer in the home. We haven't heard whether or not there has been a children services open case in this families history. But, one would hope there was after that father was found to have had not one but two charges, although we don't know if it was a family member or not.

"She left that job nearly a year before her husband at the time, David Warren Packer, was charged by Allentown police in the first of two child sex abuse cases.

On Sept. 23, 2010, he was charged with indecent assault of a victim under age 13 from a 2006 incident. On Nov. 24, 2010, he was charged by Allentown police in a separate filing of statutory sexual assault, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse of someone under age 16 and corruption of minors from a 2008 incident." http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...erment-northampton-county-20170109-story.html

Just a guess, but Sara Packer was not charged with a damn thing? WTF? Because that witch was behind that assault too. OMG!
 
We have to keep in mind that being drugged, bound, gagged and locked in a sweltering closet supports torture charges I don't see in the police complaint. Hopefully when case goes through prosecution process a torture charge will be added.


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Sara Packer and Jacob Sullivan should go directly to trial, and after being found guilty of every charge by a jury of their peers, they should be promptly sent to the front of the death penalty line and executed. If they can't find the drugs to inject into their veins, then by God's hand put them in front of a firing squad and may God have mercy on their souls.

Why didn't the girlfriend let them OD and die? Did she really believe they were innocent? My mind is numb after reading the charging documents. I could not be in the same room with either of them. God help me.
 

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