GUILTY PA - Holly Grim, 41, Wescosville, 22 Nov 2013 #2 *Arrest*

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I'd really have to.check back in my.photps to see if i screenshotted the name one..I don't think I did the yard thing..

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Ghostl8y said:
I don't know, I never saw. ;( And there was also a second page for Holly...a "Search for Holly" facebook, where friends and locals were posting ideas. They created the current facebook page for supportive comments for the family, then one day, the "search for" page was just mysteriously deleted. All those comments and info! I hope that someone had the sense to archive the posts (especially LE).
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The Search page was deleted because 1) it became obvious there was someone leaking information on search locations before the searches occurred and other sensitive information outside the group and family, 2) There was (and still is) real concern that the operations were infiltrated by one or more individuals who may have ties to possible abductor(s), and 3) After all the mud slinging and threats of lawsuits after the search on Constitution drive, many searchers and professional assets including myself decided to step away rather than risk being caught up in a legal mess.

In addition to the above, there was an individual who was a great liaison with PSP that was pushed aside by others with personal ambitions and the hard earned rapport with LE was lost due to a few individuals willy-nilly calling PSP with conflicting information to the point where PSP got sick of it.

And since I am an insider on the case from the beginning, I stand by the above.
 
I think the pure frustration of this case must also get overwhelming. Still amazes me nothing has panned out.
 
Trackergd said:
The Search page was deleted because 1) it became obvious there was someone leaking information on search locations before the searches occurred and other sensitive information outside the group and family, 2) There was (and still is) real concern that the operations were infiltrated by one or more individuals who may have ties to possible abductor(s), and 3) After all the mud slinging and threats of lawsuits after the search on Constitution drive, many searchers and professional assets including myself decided to step away rather than risk being caught up in a legal mess.

In addition to the above, there was an individual who was a great liaison with PSP that was pushed aside by others with personal ambitions and the hard earned rapport with LE was lost due to a few individuals willy-nilly calling PSP with conflicting information to the point where PSP got sick of it.

And since I am an insider on the case from the beginning, I stand by the above.
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As a total outsider, just an observant person, I saw/heard a bit of appalling behavior. I didn't know about the lawsuit threats, but I did see persons uneducated and inexperienced with anything relating to this case suddenly try to apply their personal ambitions and take over this case. I also saw what I thought was good communication and progress on this case suddenly and abruptly stop due to this.

I was told by someone (I don't think I can specify here due to it being considered a rumor and not documented fact) that family members were at one time being told to go to specific individuals with any new info or clues and not police. That these individual(s) would themselves contact police. I was appalled at the unprofessionalism of this.

I also did witness a professional involved in this case attack and name call and harrass an individual on Holly's facebook page, so badly that the moderator deleted their comments and warned them to stop. This being from a professional who allegedly "represents" this case to the public. Some very alarming behavior.

I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. You were right on top of this from the get-go, and it's really unfair.
 
I didn't know any of that was going on but I wasn't as involved in watching everyone or the news or presses as I could have been. I only knew the searching and some trailer stuff like struggle looking. I wanted to go searching but I had a small baby at the time and couldn't :/ it's sad that any of those unprofessional things were involved when it could have taken away from finding her wherever she is. And I'm surprised there's nothing found since then either :(

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Coming up on 3 years. Still so sad. No one should go missing and never be found.
 
Death Investigation - Monroe County - 27 Sep 2016

Coroner :: Extensive Law Enforcement Presence :: Heavy Digging Equipment

Monroe County is in North-Eastern, PA.

Day Two:

http://www.pahomepage.com/news/developing-story-crime-scene-monroe-county:

Referenced in Video at [00:35]*:

Michael G Horvath :: White / Male / 49 Years Old

2368 Woodhaven Drive, Ross Township, Saylorsburg, PA, 18353

Area Map:

https://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=EXI...QZW5uc3lsdmFuaWElMkMlMjBVbml0ZWQlMjBTdGF0ZXM=:

Full Screen >> Bird's Eye View >> Click & Drag >> Zoom & Rotate around the Blue Dot

Plus:
http://wnep.com/2016/09/28/police-coroner-called-to-home-in-monroe-county/


*[00:35] = 35 Seconds into the 1st Minute of Video


Our Concern to All Involved.
 
Death Investigation - Monroe County - Saylorsburg - 27 Sep 2016

Extensive Law Enforcement Presence :: Heavy Digging Equipment

Monroe County is in North-Eastern, PA.

Day Three:

http://www.poconorecord.com/news/20160929/human-bone-found-during-search-of-ross-township-property:
&
http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/
[Scroll way down to "Death Investigation Draws Dozens..."

Property Records Link to Michael & Cathy Horvath
2368 Woodhaven Drive, Ross Township, Saylorsburg, PA, 18353

Area Map:

https://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=EXI...QZW5uc3lsdmFuaWElMkMlMjBVbml0ZWQlMjBTdGF0ZXM=:

Full Screen >> Bird's Eye View >> Click & Drag >> Zoom & Rotate around the Blue Dot


Our Concern to All Involved.
 
Death Investigation - Monroe County - Saylorsburg - 27 Sep 2016

Extensive Law Enforcement Presence :: Heavy Digging Equipment

Monroe County is in North-Eastern, PA.

Day Three:

http://wnep.com/2016/09/29/death-investigation-confirmed-neighbors-in-saylorsburg-nervous/:
&
http://www.poconorecord.com/news/20160929/human-bone-found-during-search-of-ross-township-property:

Michael & Cathy Horvath

2368 Woodhaven Drive, Ross Township, Saylorsburg, PA, 18353

Area Map:

https://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=EXI...QZW5uc3lsdmFuaWElMkMlMjBVbml0ZWQlMjBTdGF0ZXM=:

Full Screen >> Bird's Eye View >> Click & Drag >> Zoom & Rotate around the Blue Dot


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Theres an investigation and digging goong on at the home of a coworker

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http://www.wfmz.com/news/poconos-co...merge-in-ross-township-investigation/41894012

Here's the latest article, updated eight minutes before posting.

Seems authorities have been digging at the home of a coworker of Holly's for several days in Ross Township, PA.
What a major breakthrough in this case!
I saw this this morning and was almost beside myself, it's been so very long with not a word. I hope beyond hope that Holly's family gets some answers now, and Holly can come home.
 
I have been following the local news reports this morning, and reading comments. I've seen a few things of interest.

Holly and Michael Horvath worked together at Allen Organ in the woodshop. I found a facebook page for Horvath and he states that he quit at Allen in 2014, after Holly went missing.

There was murder of a woman in Lower Macungie in August, her name is Stephanie Roof. She was found shot in her driveway in front of her house. As of Sept 20th, LE said they do have a person of interest in this case. *I have not yet confirmed* but saw a comment on a news article today about Horvath's property where the persn said that Roof worked in the woodshop at Allen Organ at one time. One case very well may have led to the other, but I haven't been able to find any proof of this other than one facebook comment.
 
I am following this as well. There are a lot of investigators at the site which leads me to believe that either the remains are spread out, or that there may be more than one set. I distinctly remember asking Holly's mom if there was any friction between Holly and coworkers when we had the search team get together. Since I have been involved from the beginning, I am really interested in how this plays out.
 
I was able to get confirmation from an Allen Organ employee that Stephanie Roof DID work at Allen.
 
Trackergd said:
I am following this as well. There are a lot of investigators at the site which leads me to believe that either the remains are spread out, or that there may be more than one set. I distinctly remember asking Holly's mom if there was any friction between Holly and coworkers when we had the search team get together. Since I have been involved from the beginning, I am really interested in how this plays out.
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bbm - what was her answer? Are you allowed to share?
 
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