PA PA - Kortne Ciera Stouffer, 21, Palmyra, 29 July 2012 - #3

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Wondering if that is the actual car that was used that night? Could there be other possibilities that were not offered for search? It could be easy to offer a car to be searched that wasn't used during an occurance?? Hmm...makes me think. Was there any proof that it was the car used other than their saying it was the car...any eyewittnesses not associated with or related to these folks?
 
I've read two things that seem to be in discord. The first was that the neighbor TS called the police, and his landlord regarding the "stomping" disturbance. The second thing I read was that he owned his home (meaning, no landlord). Both these things were found in posts here, and I don't know which is correct, can someone help me out, please?

TS does own his own which is a full half house duplex that is connected to KS building which has 2 apartments. One on the bottom and hers on the 2nd and 3rd floors.
 
After the fight CP could have said hey ill stay or Kortney asked him to stay!
 
I would really like to know if this is really what happened. It really sounds like Kortne was flying high this night.....I can't imagine ever banging on my neighbors windows and threatening them.

While I wasn't there so I couldn't say, this has been told to me by several people. A gentleman involved with the fire house and in the articles it points out that she became confrontational to the neighbors. I had been told this is why TS stepped outside to try to control and stop the situation when KS then went after him and CP stepped in between them.
 
Ya know when ya read this I dont think Cp was going to stay I think he decided to stay after the confrontation K had with the neighbors!


Just a thought!

And an excellent thought at that. It makes perfect sense with tensions running high that either he volunteered or was asked to stay over. Good observation. On another note, are things calm there or is Isaac still visiting?
 
While I wasn't there so I couldn't say, this has been told to me by several people. A gentleman involved with the fire house and in the articles it points out that she became confrontational to the neighbors. I had been told this is why TS stepped outside to try to control and stop the situation when KS then went after him and CP stepped in between them.

And an excellent thought at that. It makes perfect sense with tensions running high that either he volunteered or was asked to stay over. Good observation. On another note, are things calm there or is Isaac still visiting?


Everything is fine here we were very lucky!
Im here in the sarasota area and its not even raining!

I think we missed it because i bought a generator yesterday lol
 
Everything is fine here we were very lucky!
Im here in the sarasota area and its not even raining!

I think we missed it because i bought a generator yesterday lol

It never fails here either. Blizzard approaching. Buy snowblower. Storm dissipates or changes course. Glad all is well.
 
And an excellent thought at that. It makes perfect sense with tensions running high that either he volunteered or was asked to stay over. Good observation. On another note, are things calm there or is Isaac still visiting?

I even wonder if Le asked if she was staying alone and suggested someone stay with her!
 
Id love to know if her car was there when she returned home that night or it appeared later on.
 
OK thanks to me that says alot!
He didnt lawyer up and refuse to take a poly and give dna!

IMO hes not the one!

Maybe he don't have an atty because he can't afford one. TS only has an atty because he works for one.
 
Maybe he don't have an atty because he can't afford one. TS only has an atty because he works for one.

What are your thoughts on what happened to Kortne? Was it TS that called the 2nd time? Have you heard anything about CP's (stay over guy) actions that night?
 
Maybe he don't have an atty because he can't afford one. TS only has an atty because he works for one.


I would think,,,,If LE was looking at you as a possible POI and u were last seen with a woman that has suddenly vanished you WOULD retain a lawyer,
im sure someone out there would help him.
 
The police never knocked on the next door neighbors door when they returned the second time. They only showed up 30 minutes after the call was made and left within 5 minutes. They never made an attempt to contact next door neighbor and never knocked on his door.

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Welcome TDOTS.

Wondering if you have been told that LE never knocked on his door, nor made contact?

Is it possible that TS has offered to LE that he remained awake at that hour, and therefore, he is able to say that police never knocked at his door?

IF so, then in addition to both TS and CP's acknowledging the stomping noise...

Both TS and CP acknowledge, though possibly for different reasons, that neither of them heard LE at their respective doors.
 
Not hearsay -- it was reported in MSM that a reporter spoke with the Hardware Bar directly and was told no one was kicked out that night. This has been cited earlier in the thread, which you should be able to find. On iPad, so can't link, plus don't have the time to track it down.



i think there may be a difference between "asked to leave" & "kicked out"...idk

i only say this from my barhopping days with friends - some who had been "kicked out", which usually means the cops may or may not be involved(for a police report) and "asked to leave" was usually the first request where a person could avoid getting "kicked out" and usually banned from a place. kwim? jmoo
 
Did CP take a poly?
I know he gave his dna!

what article states that he gave dna? not being snarky... just dont remember seeing it. i cant read the pennlive - maybe thats why i dont remember...:blushing:


eta: the link is above....thanks :)
 
Wondering if that is the actual car that was used that night? Could there be other possibilities that were not offered for search? It could be easy to offer a car to be searched that wasn't used during an occurance?? Hmm...makes me think. Was there any proof that it was the car used other than their saying it was the car...any eyewittnesses not associated with or related to these folks?

i think this is a good possibility. again, maybe nothing sinister but between all the people that night there has to be more than 3 cars that could have been available...
 
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